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Re: Which one-time monster should be in the new Godzilla mov

Postby Living Corpse » Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:20 pm

Well that's..."new".

I still think Varan deserves at least an early fight.
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Re: Which one-time monster should be in the new Godzilla mov

Postby Kiryu2012 » Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:32 pm

I wonder if we'll even end up with a giant human, not like Frankenstein, but more like Saxton Hale or Hulk.
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Re: Which Kaiju would you like to see and how would you use

Postby Kiryu2012 » Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:13 pm

If Anguirus is put in this film, they should have him look like this:

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And absolutely not like this:

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Personally, I would like Anguirus to appear in this film. LP probably isn't gonna try to go to the big leagues so soon, and would maybe stick to something not so actiony in terms of kaiju and use a basic design like Anguirus.
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Re: Likely Kaiju Co-Stars

Postby Mincecraft » Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:46 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Rodan does seem like a smart choice and hoping that they don't kill him off. But I can see King Ghidorah working better if they want a more serious monster. He is a big large dragon, he is pretty well known and can work if they want a planetary threat for the film.


I agree. He's number one on my "Most Evil Monster" poll.

King Ghidorah would either be working for his own pleasure or being controlled. I prefer the former.
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Re: Which Kaiju would you like to see and how would you use

Postby Ethan » Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:31 pm

Megalon and Jet-Jaguar seem like the most logical choices to me. Audiences are already familiar with them because of MST3K. Godzilla vs. Megalon is a fan favorite, it's logical to think a film with a similar monster rooster would do nicely in catering for fans and more casual audience members alike. Cameos by the show's cast would help too.
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Re: Which Kaiju would you like to see and how would you use

Postby Tyler » Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:34 pm

Ethan wrote:Megalon and Jet-Jaguar seem like the most logical choices to me. Audiences are already familiar with them because of MST3K. Godzilla vs. Megalon is a fan favorite, it's logical to think a film with a similar monster rooster would do nicely in catering for fans and more casual audience members alike. Cameos by the show's cast would help too.


You've gone off about this before and I really can't tell if you're being serious or just messing with people who DON'T want the movie to be like that.
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Re: Which Kaiju would you like to see and how would you use

Postby Ethan » Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:15 pm

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Ethan wrote:Megalon and Jet-Jaguar seem like the most logical choices to me. Audiences are already familiar with them because of MST3K. Godzilla vs. Megalon is a fan favorite, it's logical to think a film with a similar monster rooster would do nicely in catering for fans and more casual audience members alike. Cameos by the show's cast would help too.


You've gone off about this before and I really can't tell if you're being serious or just messing with people who DON'T want the movie to be like that.

A lot of people want this film to be like Godzilla and are vocal about it. Are you suggesting this isn't a two way street?
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Re: Which Kaiju would you like to see and how would you use

Postby xenotactics » Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:56 am

Ethan wrote:Megalon and Jet-Jaguar seem like the most logical choices to me. Audiences are already familiar with them because of MST3K. Godzilla vs. Megalon is a fan favorite, it's logical to think a film with a similar monster rooster would do nicely in catering for fans and more casual audience members alike. Cameos by the show's cast would help too.


Well, if your top priority is cementing the notion of Godzilla as silly, goofy, laughable (etc.), then I would say that this is a great idea. Godzilla vs. Megalon, however, probably represents the pinnacle of how far Godzilla strayed from his origins and original intentions. It's not necessarily the worst Godzilla film (and Megalon has potential to be re-imagined and portrayed as a rather cool monster), but it may very well be the worst possible starting place for a re-boot. The Godzilla in that film cannot possibly be reconciled with the one from 1954 or the more recent incarnations that managed to get the franchise back on track.
Also, MST3K? Is that really the kind of baggage you want tagging along into what is poised to be a kind of new-milleneum renaissance for the Godzilla mythos? I can't imagine how that would benefit any of us.
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Re: Which Kaiju would you like to see and how would you use

Postby Mincecraft » Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:44 am

Reading so many of the earlier posts, I dont really agree on Rodan. In my opinion Godzilla would woop his ass if he was serious in attempting to kill him.

Megalon...no. Not without a decent do-over and serious tone.

Jet Jaguar...*facepalm*

I still think Ghidorah is the best choice. He is his nemesis after all, and I think it would make for outstanding action.
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Re: Which Kaiju would you like to see and how would you use

Postby ScootaVaran » Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:47 am

Mincecraft wrote:Reading so many of the earlier posts, I dont really agree on Rodan. In my opinion Godzilla would woop his ass if he was serious in attempting to kill him.

Megalon...no. Not without a decent do-over and serious tone.

Jet Jaguar...*facepalm*

I still think Ghidorah is the best choice. He is his nemesis after all, and I think it would make for outstanding action.


If this became a trilogy Ghidorah would be perfect for the final movie. by the third one in, the average viewer could accept a golden flying space dragon as a villian.

Of course thats a big IF it ever became a trilogy.

My vote still goes to Biollante for the first fight.
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He arrives, the plants forms a mouth then you've got a Biollante.

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Re: Which Kaiju would you like to see and how would you use

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:21 am

I think Biollante would make a good foe for a possible second film. It'd be cool because most of her back story would be kept intact and it would allow for discussion of Godzilla's regeneration between the characters.
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Re: Which Kaiju would you like to see and how would you use

Postby Living Corpse » Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:31 am

Or just G-cells in general.

Rodan and Varan would be cool for the first flick.
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Re: Which Kaiju would you like to see and how would you use

Postby Ethan » Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:12 pm

xenotactics wrote:Well, if your top priority is cementing the notion of Godzilla as silly, goofy, laughable (etc.), then I would say that this is a great idea. Godzilla vs. Megalon, however, probably represents the pinnacle of how far Godzilla strayed from his origins and original intentions. It's not necessarily the worst Godzilla film (and Megalon has potential to be re-imagined and portrayed as a rather cool monster), but it may very well be the worst possible starting place for a re-boot. The Godzilla in that film cannot possibly be reconciled with the one from 1954 or the more recent incarnations that managed to get the franchise back on track.
Also, MST3K? Is that really the kind of baggage you want tagging along into what is poised to be a kind of new-milleneum renaissance for the Godzilla mythos? I can't imagine how that would benefit any of us.

I don't believe there's a way to change such misconception. Furthermore, one shouldn't be deluded into thinking that audiences see Godzilla as "silly, goofy, laughable" because Godzilla vs. Megalon is silly, goofy and laughable. Nor that a film crafted as diffently as possible from it would produce a 180º spin on the masses.
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Re: Which Kaiju would you like to see and how would you use

Postby xenotactics » Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:58 pm

Ethan wrote:
xenotactics wrote:Well, if your top priority is cementing the notion of Godzilla as silly, goofy, laughable (etc.), then I would say that this is a great idea. Godzilla vs. Megalon, however, probably represents the pinnacle of how far Godzilla strayed from his origins and original intentions. It's not necessarily the worst Godzilla film (and Megalon has potential to be re-imagined and portrayed as a rather cool monster), but it may very well be the worst possible starting place for a re-boot. The Godzilla in that film cannot possibly be reconciled with the one from 1954 or the more recent incarnations that managed to get the franchise back on track.
Also, MST3K? Is that really the kind of baggage you want tagging along into what is poised to be a kind of new-milleneum renaissance for the Godzilla mythos? I can't imagine how that would benefit any of us.

I don't believe there's a way to change such misconception. Furthermore, one shouldn't be deluded into thinking that audiences see Godzilla as "silly, goofy, laughable" because Godzilla vs. Megalon is silly, goofy and laughable. Nor that a film crafted as diffently as possible from it would produce a 180º spin on the masses.


Audiences may not see Godzilla as silly, goofy, and laughable because of Godzilla vs. Megalon, but it still offers them a tangible reminder of why they don't take Godzilla seriously. In any case, why do you want Megalon or Jet Jaguar to be involved?
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Re: Which Kaiju would you like to see and how would you use

Postby Ethan » Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:28 pm

Because I like them! One can mourn for eternity that no further Godzilla film will be like the original, but the distance the franchise has taken from those silly '70s films is much more vast. Sure it could be said, that style belongs to the '70s, let it stay there, but then so it can be said that any direction you take Godzilla to, is a product of its time, be it a post WW2 drama or a Cold War thriller. And then of course there's the kids, the kids! Is there anybody here who didn't get acquainted with Godzilla at the tender age of 7? Make a film kids would see, and I guarantee it, you'll have a new generation of fans.
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Re: Which Kaiju would you like to see and how would you use

Postby Godzillabrawler » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:26 am

Ethan wrote:And then of course there's the kids, the kids! Is there anybody here who didn't get acquainted with Godzilla at the tender age of 7? Make a film kids would see, and I guarantee it, you'll have a new generation of fans.


By all means, this new movie should do so, but by staying the hell away from the camp. Kids nowadays don't like goofy-ness. They like explosions and action and violence.

For which monsters I'd like to see, I can't really say the monsters I want because they wouldn't make any sense for a first movie. In my opinion, here's how the film should go. First half of the movie, Godzilla is essentially the bad guy and an unstoppable tank. He curbstomps Anguirus and tussles with Rodan, who is nearly an equal match, before he ground pounds the pterosaur and goes on. Second half of the movie, King Ghidorah's meteorite opens up and the King of Terror goes around, runing amok. Godzilla and King Ghidorah clash, but the King of Monsters cannot defeat the golden dragon... at least, not alone. Rodan and/or Anguirus return from their bloody losses to assist their new monster king, eventually defeating Ghidorah.

This way, you can tell three origin stories at once with Goji, Angy, and Rodan. Radiation mutants. Since the movie is likely to be over 2 hours long (or at least, I hope) you could devote an hour or so to each half of the story. Plus, I know everyone wants to see the on-par-with-Godzilla Rodan that never existed, and a Ghidorah that isn't a puppet that can be easily killed.
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Re: Which Kaiju would you like to see and how would you use

Postby xenotactics » Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:23 pm

Ethan wrote:Because I like them! One can mourn for eternity that no further Godzilla film will be like the original, but the distance the franchise has taken from those silly '70s films is much more vast. Sure it could be said, that style belongs to the '70s, let it stay there, but then so it can be said that any direction you take Godzilla to, is a product of its time, be it a post WW2 drama or a Cold War thriller. And then of course there's the kids, the kids! Is there anybody here who didn't get acquainted with Godzilla at the tender age of 7? Make a film kids would see, and I guarantee it, you'll have a new generation of fans.


Yes, but when I was seven (which would have been 1988), my favorite films were ''85, '54, and Terror of Mecha Godzilla. I didn't care that much for Megalon except for how he came out of the ground. I liked that. We could draw parallels to Star Wars. Do you think kids are going to like Episode 1 more because Jar Jar is in it? I don't. They're still going to be more impressed with the original films because they're better movies and they don't have a bunch of stupid bullshit in them.
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Re: Which Kaiju would you like to see and how would you use

Postby Sav » Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:07 pm

I'd LOVE to see battra in a sequel.

I don't know if any of you guys have read these new comics, but they made battra really epic. I love the evil twins.
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Re: Which Kaiju would you like to see and how would you use

Postby Bluejira » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:05 pm

I would like a mated pair of rodans in the movie. Keep the volcanic origin (possibly Iceland). Have them be immune to heat but not the radiation of Godzilla's blasts. They build a nest after being exposed to the radiation. After the final battle and end credits we see the egg hatches as a three headed mutation.
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Re: Which Kaiju would you like to see and how would you use

Postby Tyler » Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:52 pm

So Rodan creates Ghidorah? It's like Darth Vader building C-3PO..
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