Biollante...Really.

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Biollante...Really.

Postby Blackout286 » Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:02 am

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Will Godzilla Battle Biolantte in Gareth Edwards' American Version?
Source:By Eric Shirey, Yahoo! Contributor Network


Godzilla purists everywhere are in celebration over the announcement that their favorite lizard king will again be played by a man in a rubber suit in Gareth Edwards' ("Monsters") upcoming Legendary Pictures reboot of "Godzilla." The news came via website Infamous Kidd, the announcement also noting that the head of the monster will be controlled through animatronics and everything will be cleaned up using CGI. It sounds like we're going to be getting the best of all effects worlds.

The news was accompanied by recent design pictures that sculptor Hecter A. Arce had apparently made for "Godzilla." Arce's name has come up as one of the individuals on the design team for the new Legendary Pictures adaptation. It shows a much scalier and angrier-looking lizard beast than we've seen even from the Toho Millennium series of films that ended in 2004 with "Godzilla: Final Wars."

Something all the fan and news sites seem to keep missing in their excitement is another sculpture that was posted right next to the images of the new Godzilla on Arce's official website. There are three images marked "Biolantte Redesign" that appear suspiciously sandwiched between what appears to be an earlier version of Godzilla and the newest version. What could this mean? Is Godzilla's archenemy from 1989's "Godzilla vs. Biolantte" making a return for Edwards' American version?

Biolantte is a bizarre fusion of Godzilla's DNA, a rosebush, and the DNA of a scientist's daughter. In her first form, the monster looked like a mutated rose with teeth. In its second form, she had a head in the shape of a mosasaur's and a jaw with knife-like teeth. There are three large tusks on each side of her mouth. The Arce version looks absolutely frightening.

It's not surprising "Godzilla" would be filmed using practical effects. Recent movies like "The Thing" prequel and "Real Steel" have both used a lot of practical effects versus CGI. If done correctly, the use of a man in a realistic-looking costume could make the monster look more fluid while stomping through whatever city director Edwards decides he wants to destroy.

"Godzilla" is being written by David S. Goyer ("The Dark Knight," "Superman: Man of Steel"). The movie isn't scheduled to be released until 2014. We have a long time before we'll be seeing anything "official" pop up anywhere.


I know this is just someone's assumption due to the rumor of that Godzilla sculpture from before, but come on. :lol: This (IMO), is just somewhat evidence that we need some things to be cleared up xD
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Re: Biollante...Really.

Postby Living Corpse » Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:04 am

OMG this is so priceless! :lol:

Also I love how they misspelled it Biolantte. Or the part where they say "fans everywhere will be happy to know Godzilla will once again be played by a man in a rubber suit" even thought Edwards himself said he'd be CGI months ago. :roll:
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Re: Biollante...Really.

Postby ゴジラ » Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:11 am

Wow...I honestly don't know what to say. But I do agree, things need to be cleared up, this is just...Wow O.o

Can anyone honestly see Biollante making a comeback at all?
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Re: Biollante...Really.

Postby Killswitch » Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:13 am

What a bunch of crap! Just think, we have a few more years of this sh*t!
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Postby Space Hunter M » Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:16 am

*Dr. Phil Voice* That's a load of craap! I'm honestly more offended than embarrassed.
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Re: Biollante...Really.

Postby Living Corpse » Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:38 am

Now I'm so not going to pass up the chance to rip this guy a new asshole.

Godzilla purists everywhere are in celebration over the announcement that their favorite lizard king will again be played by a man in a rubber suit in Gareth Edwards' ("Monsters") upcoming Legendary Pictures reboot of "Godzilla." The news came via website Infamous Kidd, the announcement also noting that the head of the monster will be controlled through animatronics and everything will be cleaned up using CGI. It sounds like we're going to be getting the best of all effects worlds.


Except, you know, the interview with Gareth many months back where he said Godzilla would be CGI. Granted plans could have changed since then but since we haven't heard otherwise yet then we should assume that the CGI thing is gonna stick unless they tell us otherwise. Maybe he should have looked at some old news before making wild guesses.

The news was accompanied by recent design pictures that sculptor Hecter A. Arce had apparently made for "Godzilla." Arce's name has come up as one of the individuals on the design team for the new Legendary Pictures adaptation. It shows a much scalier and angrier-looking lizard beast than we've seen even from the Toho Millennium series of films that ended in 2004 with "Godzilla: Final Wars."


That thing is several years old. In fact it was made at least 2 years before this film was even announced. And last I heard him being on the team was an unconfirmed rumor which even if it's true doesn't mean that's the design that's going to be used.

Something all the fan and news sites seem to keep missing in their excitement


Or you know, getting their facts straight before spreading wild rumors without seeing if they are true. :roll:

is another sculpture that was posted right next to the images of the new Godzilla on Arce's official website. There are three images marked "Biolantte Redesign" that appear suspiciously sandwiched between what appears to be an earlier version of Godzilla and the newest version. What could this mean? Is Godzilla's archenemy from 1989's "Godzilla vs. Biolantte" making a return for Edwards' American version?


Or maybe it's just something he made for fun. Like the kids on Deviant Art.

Biolantte is a bizarre fusion of Godzilla's DNA, a rosebush, and the DNA of a scientist's daughter. In her first form, the monster looked like a mutated rose with teeth. In its second form, she had a head in the shape of a mosasaur's and a jaw with knife-like teeth. There are three large tusks on each side of her mouth. The Arce version looks absolutely frightening.


While I admit it'd be cool to see a well done Hollywood effects level Biollante. Un-uh, not going to happen.

It's not surprising "Godzilla" would be filmed using practical effects.


Except again, he's not. And unless we hear them come out and say otherwise then what Gareth said earlier about him being CGI is true. Just look at that interview of Gareth.

Recent movies like "The Thing" prequel and "Real Steel" have both used a lot of practical effects versus CGI.


I don't know what the fudge Real Steel is but I've been following The Thing real closely since it was announced. It uses both. :?

If done correctly, the use of a man in a realistic-looking costume could make the monster look more fluid while stomping through whatever city director Edwards decides he wants to destroy.


While I admit they would get the best results FX wise if they use both CGI AND practical effects I'm pretty sure there just gonna use CGI. You know, what with Gareth saying that's what there gonna do and we haven't heard anything since to say otherwise. Also did I mention Gareth's interview? ;)

The movie isn't scheduled to be released until 2014.


And you know this how? It could be 2013, 2015, 2016, 2017. Any number of things could happen to delay this movie, look no further then the last attempt at making an American Godzilla for proof.

Blackout286 wrote:I know this is just someone's assumption due to the rumor of that Godzilla sculpture from before, but come on. :lol: This (IMO), is just somewhat evidence that we need some things to be cleared up xD


killswitch wrote:What a bunch of crap! Just think, we have a few more years of this sh*t!


Space Hunter M wrote:*Dr. Phil Voice* That's a load of craap! I'm honestly more offended than embarrassed.


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Re: Biollante...Really.

Postby Tohosaurus » Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:27 am

LMAO!

This is gonna be good.
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Re: Biollante...Really.

Postby XxComablack1937xX » Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:38 am

LOL.. Not a chance this is true, but don't get me wrong i'd die of pure happiness if Biollante came in the first American Reboot film... I love Biollante an with proper CGI an stuff this could be 1 hell of a film...

Which could leave King Ghidorah for the sequel... an possibly Mecha-Godzilla for the 3rd film.. Could work but like i said doubtful.
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Postby shinmattiathekaiju » Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:45 am

My friend(who is a Biollante fanboy),said he want Biollante in the film. The lucky bastard.
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Re: Biollante...Really.

Postby GodzillaIsCool » Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:13 pm

Should we just start spreading our own rumors that Jet Jaguar makes a comeback in this movie? And Godzilla will be stop and go motion puppet?
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Re: Biollante...Really.

Postby shinmattiathekaiju » Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:19 pm

GodzillaIsCool wrote:Should we just start spreading our own rumors that Jet Jaguar makes a comeback in this movie? And Godzilla will be stop and go motion puppet?

Or riding a bike with Minilla while singing Born To Be Wild.
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Re: Biollante...Really.

Postby Living Corpse » Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:32 pm

shinmattiathekaiju wrote:
GodzillaIsCool wrote:Should we just start spreading our own rumors that Jet Jaguar makes a comeback in this movie? And Godzilla will be stop and go motion puppet?

Or riding a bike with Minilla while singing Born To Be Wild.


Not crazy enough. Needs Zone Fighter and Bagan added on top of this bullshit sunday and then it's crazy enough.
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Re: Biollante...Really.

Postby NSZ » Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:02 pm

:roll: -_- Oh for skreeonk sakes...

Here's hoping the upcoming NYCC will dispell these rumors. I mean sure, LP can't give us anything concrete about the film yet aside Godzilla being CGI, but that doesn't mean they can't discredit the ever living skreeonk out of people when they need discrediting.
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Re: Biollante...Really.

Postby shinmattiathekaiju » Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:04 pm

Living Corpse wrote:
shinmattiathekaiju wrote:
GodzillaIsCool wrote:Should we just start spreading our own rumors that Jet Jaguar makes a comeback in this movie? And Godzilla will be stop and go motion puppet?

Or riding a bike with Minilla while singing Born To Be Wild.


Not crazy enough. Needs Zone Fighter and Bagan added on top of this bullshit sunday and then it's crazy enough.


It was a reference to Neverending story 3.
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Re: Biollante...Really.

Postby Hellspawn28 » Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:20 pm

I really doubt this real. Why Biollante? A monster that was never that popular and hardly know about outside the fanbase.

I don't know what the fudge Real Steel


It's that robot boxing movie with Hugh Jackman. You haven't seen the trailers or the TV spots for it?
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Re: Biollante...Really.

Postby TokyoVigilante » Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:32 pm

While the news story is clearly bullshit, Biollante is just as eligible for this film as any other. Especially being one of the better made monsters in Tohos roster.
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Re: Biollante...Really.

Postby Hellspawn28 » Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:35 pm

Biollante seems way to random to be added in the first film. Someone like Rodan and King Ghidorah works better since they are more well known.
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Re: Biollante...Really.

Postby CatfaceFourtoes » Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:25 pm

XxComablack1937xX wrote:LOL.. Not a chance this is true, but don't get me wrong i'd die of pure happiness if Biollante came in the first American Reboot film... I love Biollante an with proper CGI an stuff this could be 1 hell of a film...

Which could leave King Ghidorah for the sequel... an possibly Mecha-Godzilla for the 3rd film.. Could work but like i said doubtful.


If you would like a good idea of how a proper CGI Biollante would look, Check out Octalus from Deep Rising on Youtube. With the exception of the head, the rest of its body design is a lot like the final form of Biollante.

As for the troll, I'm pretty sure they is just mocking my post in the "Suit or CGI" thread .The mention of suitmation and of animatrionic articulation is just too much of a coincidence. In that thread I heard the big G was going to be CGI, and if Cloverfield, Zilla and Octalus can look real enough, I am at peace with a possibly motion captured CGI Godzilla. It worked for King Kong after all.
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Re: Biollante...Really.

Postby Hellspawn28 » Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:51 pm

I would not mind if practical effects are used in the films. Jurassic Park (1993), Mighty Joe Young (1998), Hellboy 1-2, Iron Man (2008), District 9 (2009) and most recently Real Steel (2011) used them.
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Postby CatfaceFourtoes » Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:02 pm

Tell me about it. I believe the reason why the CGI was so well done in Jurassic Park was because it had to compete with Phil Tippett's(sp?) Go Motion animated dinos. And even after that, the special features on the DVD stated that they used the Go Motion models for reference! As for suitmation, it has the best track record for looking believable on film so far. It has none of stop motion's strobe effect, and none of CGI's blurriness or poor physics. These flaws can be toned way down, but there is sometimes a bit of a tell left over.
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