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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby Gojira-Fan » Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:42 pm

I think I would like to have Odo Island touched upon a little bit.
If they do have that as his origin...
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby KaneLocke » Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:23 pm

Ethan wrote:GFW does, as the year 1954 is mentioned in the prologue.

Does not mean it is a direct sequel to the movie, as the events that occurred in 1954 are never elaborated on. It is also never stated in GFW that the "first" Gojira died.

So, no. Mentioning the year of his creation is more of a nod to the film than making it a sequel.
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby Ethan » Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:57 pm

While it's doesn't quite follow Gojira's storyline like GMK or Godzilla Raids Again, there is no in-universe evidence that the films are unrelated. Regardless, Godzilla Final Wars isn't a film that deserves a true serious analysis.
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby Living Corpse » Fri Nov 26, 2010 7:42 am

Spacegodzillagalaxy wrote:It would be cool if this was a sequal to te Heisei series.


That would just confuse the general US who is for the most part is unaware of the Heisei or later films. Hell a lot of them still think Godzilla vs Megalon is the last film.
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby TokyoVigilante » Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:44 am

A) That's assuming that this film takes place in the Heisei universe.

B) Film Festivals don't give enough exposure to the masses for the majority of the audience to understand what would be going on.
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby TokyoVigilante » Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:48 am

How would just showing battles familiarize with the Heisei continuity?

Also, why continue the finished Heisei universe?
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby TokyoVigilante » Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:53 am

^That's incredibly and most certainly debatable.

Anywho, on topic; keep it brief and to the point, but I wouldn't mind seeing some of Godzilla's personal history we haven't seen. A Jurassic Age Godzilla, Godzilla with feudal Odo Islanders, etc.
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby Arrow » Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:59 am

No. The Heisei era had a definite beginning and end. There's honestly nothing to be gained from continuing it, IMHO.

Like I said elsewhere, I honestly wouldn't mind the first movie treating and emphasizing the origins of Godzilla as a mystery, while a sequel (if there is one) delving into and revealing Godzilla's origins to the audience, possibly bringing a monster opponent connected to Godzilla's past somehow. If you can't do King Ghidorah in the first movie, then why not connect him to Godzilla's past and set him up as the final opponent in the event of a possible sequel?
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby TokyoVigilante » Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:04 am

The mass audiences aren't familiar enough with these monsters to be bothered by LP using Ghidorah (her?) and calling it out for not being "fresh".
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:20 am

I dont see SpaceGodzilla or Destroyah making an appearance. I also doubt that it will be connected to a previous series.

However, I would be ok with having a universe with some already existing backstory to it. As long as it is explained adequitley to new fans.
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby Legion1979 » Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:24 am

Spacegodzillagalaxy wrote:It would be cool if this was a sequal to te Heisei series.



It won't be.
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby HeiseiGodzilla117 » Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:40 am

Arrow wrote:If you can't do King Ghidorah in the first movie, then why not connect him to Godzilla's past and set him up as the final opponent in the event of a possible sequel?



YES! I like that idea. I'm opposed to Ghidorah being in the first film, but should they use him in sequels (or if they have to use him in the first movie) then that would be an excellent way of doing it.
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby TokyoVigilante » Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:45 am

I'd be cool with that. GvsMG ('74) had an interesting thing where Ghidorah was this sort of vague force that drove the prophecy element of the plot.

You could do something similar, and combine it with some of the heatwave back-story of Ghidora as an explanation for Godzilla getting unfrozen, or strange gravitational anomalies dragging meteors to Earth (Hedorah, Ghidorah himself, etc.)
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby Arrow » Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:54 am

Spacegodzillagalaxy wrote:Maybe if it's a sequel to Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla you can have the monkey aliens making Spacegodzilla.

It shouldn't be (and probably won't be) a sequel to anything. The new Godzilla film should stand on its own, a brand new take on the character that'll allow Hollywood to take Godzilla places that Toho never did. One of the reasons that, IMO, the Gamera trilogy worked so well was that instead of tying him to his previous origins, Kaneko rebooted Gamera entirely, allowing him to take the character in another direction.
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby Inferno Rodan » Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:02 am

Spacegodzillagalaxy wrote:So maybe Gamera can be in the movie.

I swear you get less coherant by the post.

No, Gamera will not be in the movie.
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby Legion1979 » Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:12 am

Inferno Rodan wrote:
Spacegodzillagalaxy wrote:So maybe Gamera can be in the movie.

I swear you get less coherant by the post.


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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby NSZ » Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:19 am

I'm thinking all of the above. I wouldn't mind a super quick origin story, but I also wouldn't mind some decent exploration into his origin for those not in the G-Fandom loop.
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Re: A super quick origin story?

Postby Tyler » Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:12 pm

You know, I can see Ghidorah working as an evil dragon from Japan's past. That would probably save time from having him be a planet destroying space alien or something. As long as they stay true to that bad guy core I don't see it being a problem.
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Re: Story Ideas

Postby Godzillawolf » Sat Nov 27, 2010 12:43 pm

Well here's an idea.

Godzilla is disturbed by a nuclear submarine and attacks the mainland, destroying everything in his path. A scientist begins work on a weapon to kill Godzilla, which is dubbed the Oxygen Destroyer (please note, this one is NOT in the original timeline) that is composed of microorganisms that consume oxygen, producing a lethal byproduct that dissolves anything organic in contact with it. As Godzilla continues rampaging, the military deploys special freezing bombs containing liquid nitrogen, managing to put him in hibernation. But while they debate what to do, the scientist's experment is tested and dissolves a tank of fish, but he's startled to discover that a hole is cut in the side of the tank the next morning and the tank has drained completely.

Several hours later, the security guards at the lab and personal are attacked by human sized monsters, which are discovered to be the Oxygen Destroyer chemical having taken on a life on if its own, gradually mutating. As the military tries to kill the creatures, they merge together into one giant creature dubbed Destoroyah, which begins destroying everything in its path, normal troops unable to get in range due to the toxic byproduct gas being present within range of the monster and any serious damage inflicted is healed by him breaking down and reforming. It's discovered Godzilla's regeneration would render him immune to the gas and the military is convinced to thaw out Godzilla to fight Destoroyah.

Godzilla and Destoroyah fight and Godzilla is badly wounded in the fight, but continues to battle. The scientist, guilt ridden he created Destoroyah, takes a craft full of the freezing bombs and drops them on Destoroyah, weakening him but being killed by Destoroyah in the process. However, now weakened, Destoroyah is overpowered by Godzilla and killed by having Godzilla's Atomic Ray fired through his now brittle body, blasting a gigantic hole through his chest before he can break down and heal. Godzilla, battered from the battle, returns to the see.
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Re: Story Ideas

Postby HeiseiGodzilla117 » Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:12 pm

^That sounds WAY too much like Godzilla vs Destoroyah.
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