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Re: Rejected Godzilla Concept Art

Postby Cinematic Kaiju » Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:35 pm

StonedHope wrote:I figured Looked to much like this old one

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I was releaved when this was revealed to be fan art.


This would have been an excellent design minus the feathers and orange/red streaks. And the tail, yeahhhh definitely would have to go.
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Re: Rejected Godzilla Concept Art

Postby Tohosaurus » Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:43 pm

To be honest, I'm expecting something like this. Not perfect and some people are going to complain about it, but then all of the Millennium suits were criticized in some fashion or another, so there will be naysayers no matter what they do. In the end it's still Godzilla, something G98 wasn't. I'm sure MF's work has be saturated on here, but I digress.

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Re: Rejected Godzilla Concept Art

Postby FlamingZilla23 » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:01 pm

Tohosaurus wrote:To be honest, I'm expecting something like this. Not perfect and some people are going to complain about it, but then all of the Millennium suits were criticized in some fashion or another, so there will be naysayers no matter what they do. In the end it's still Godzilla, something G98 wasn't. I'm sure MF's work has be saturated on here, but I digress.

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looks okay to me just shorten down the large dorsal spine and it will be perfect.
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Re: Rejected Godzilla Concept Art

Postby Berzerkgodzilla » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:27 pm

I love it, but I gotta agree and say the largest dorsal spine should be made smaller
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Re: Rejected Godzilla Concept Art

Postby SaiyanRider54 » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:33 pm

StonedHope wrote:I figured Looked to much like this old one

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I was releaved when this was revealed to be fan art.

I remember when I first saw this by the original creator and it didn't have the LP logo on it. Then some dumbass put on the LP logo and caused this huge mess of rumors.
I really don't like the design still. The bird stuff is REALLY stupid for Godzilla. Next your going to see the Big G with huge wings and beak so they can make him "realistic."
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Re: Rejected Godzilla Concept Art

Postby Living Corpse » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:43 pm

SaiyanRider54 wrote:I remember when I first saw this by the original creator and it didn't have the LP logo on it. Then some dumbass put on the LP logo and caused this huge mess of rumors.


Yeah I hate it when people do that.
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Re: Rejected Godzilla Concept Art

Postby Giga Kaiju » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:57 pm

@ Tohosaurus: That design looks average and some look like that or similar would be great just with some changes to the Spines and some changes of bulk here and there.
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Re: Rejected Godzilla Concept Art

Postby zilla103192 » Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:37 am

Didn't Bob Eggleton describe the concept art he saw being VERY VERY similar to the descriptions of that birdified Godzilla/SpaceGodzilla attacking the Statue of Liberty paintings?

I swear that artist is a legendary pictures artist. He even has a picture similar to the idea of pacific rim on his DA account labeled as "Concept Art"
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Re: Rejected Godzilla Concept Art

Postby gatorzilla » Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:00 am

zilla103192 wrote:Didn't Bob Eggleton describe the concept art he saw being VERY VERY similar to the descriptions of that birdified Godzilla/SpaceGodzilla attacking the Statue of Liberty paintings?

I swear that artist is a legendary pictures artist. He even has a picture similar to the idea of pacific rim on his DA account labeled as "Concept Art"




When did Bob Eggleton say he saw concept art from the LP film?
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Re: Rejected Godzilla Concept Art

Postby ZillaEra » Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:51 am

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zilla103192 wrote:Didn't Bob Eggleton describe the concept art he saw being VERY VERY similar to the descriptions of that birdified Godzilla/SpaceGodzilla attacking the Statue of Liberty paintings?

I swear that artist is a legendary pictures artist. He even has a picture similar to the idea of pacific rim on his DA account labeled as "Concept Art"




When did Bob Eggleton say he saw concept art from the LP film?

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Legion1979 wrote:This comes from artist and friend Bob Eggleton, during a conversation the two of us and several friends were having on FB last night...

"I saw one piece of concept art and they seemed to be going the direction of a Burning Godzilla...the spikes were all hot and on fire...All the concept art seems to show this thing that looks like Space Godzilla meets Burning Godzilla, a mountain of toxic waste and garbage with spikey things on it's arms, and burning back spikes."

He knows people in the industry and isn't the type to get thing wrong and certainly not the type to make things up. Concept art it may be, but it still gives us an indication of where LP may be going with the design.

Legion1979 wrote:He goes on to say...

"Everything I have seen indicates this as far as even "rejected" ideas on the web. All the ideas play up that he's glowing or fissioning in some way."
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Re: Rejected Godzilla Concept Art

Postby Tohosaurus » Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:57 am

I do like the fission thing. It could make Godzilla truly dazzling to look at and give credence to his atomic background.
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Re: Rejected Godzilla Concept Art

Postby Living Corpse » Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:21 am

Tohosaurus wrote:I do like the fission thing. It could make Godzilla truly dazzling to look at and give credence to his atomic background.


Yeah I do too but it seems a bit much for the first film. I mean it sounds like Burning Godzilla or some kind of super form. I'd rather save that for the final film assuming there is gonna be sequles and just go with normal Godzilla for the first film and save this for the final film (again assuming there's gonna be more like a trilogy).
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Re: Rejected Godzilla Concept Art

Postby Tohosaurus » Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:27 am

Living Corpse wrote:Yeah I do too but it seems a bit much for the first film. I mean it sounds like Burning Godzilla or some kind of super form. I'd rather save that for the final film assuming there is gonna be sequles and just go with normal Godzilla for the first film and save this for the final film (again assuming there's gonna be more like a trilogy).

This is a very fair criticism and one I've heard before when supporting a "Fission Godzilla". However, I would rather them do the best they can now rather than (theoretically) dumb down the design so that they can do something else later, especially with a movie that we have no idea on the chances of a sequel at this point. They can do a dying Godzilla in many ways, ways we haven't seen yet.
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Re: Rejected Godzilla Concept Art

Postby Living Corpse » Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:29 am

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Living Corpse wrote:Yeah I do too but it seems a bit much for the first film. I mean it sounds like Burning Godzilla or some kind of super form. I'd rather save that for the final film assuming there is gonna be sequles and just go with normal Godzilla for the first film and save this for the final film (again assuming there's gonna be more like a trilogy).

This is a very fair criticism and one I've heard before when supporting a "Fission Godzilla". However, I would rather them do the best they can now rather than (theoretically) dumb down the design so that they can do something else later, especially with a movie that we have no idea on the chances of a sequel at this point. They can do a dying Godzilla in many ways, ways we haven't seen yet.


True but let's say this did become a trilogy. They missed out on the chance to make a "super powered form" for the final film because they already used the design from the get go and that makes it the norm for this incarnation.

In short, I see where both sides are coming from.
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Re: Rejected Godzilla Concept Art

Postby Tohosaurus » Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:11 am

Living Corpse wrote:True but let's say this did become a trilogy. They missed out on the chance to make a "super powered form" for the final film because they already used the design from the get go and that makes it the norm for this incarnation.

In short, I see where both sides are coming from.

They did, although again I point to there being many ways for a super Godzilla to be born aesthetically. More fission, glowing spines, upgraded ray (spirals, coloration differences, etc), coloration, spike changes (size, shape, etc), additional horns/spikes, and on and on. There's a billion things and some of them could be used.

JMO, as I too see both sides and even agree with you. It's just that my other side outweighs it, especially as I want it to be the best it can be rather than leaving the door open for a sequel that may not happen. Production on this one hasn't even started! :|
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Re: Rejected Godzilla Concept Art

Postby Living Corpse » Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:15 am

Tohosaurus wrote:
Living Corpse wrote:True but let's say this did become a trilogy. They missed out on the chance to make a "super powered form" for the final film because they already used the design from the get go and that makes it the norm for this incarnation.

In short, I see where both sides are coming from.

They did, although again I point to there being many ways for a super Godzilla to be born aesthetically. More fission, glowing spines, upgraded ray (spirals, coloration differences, etc), coloration, spike changes (size, shape, etc), additional horns/spikes, and on and on. There's a billion things and some of them could be used.

JMO, as I too see both sides.


True, I guess if there is more and they want the final film to have a super form they can make the design more extreme then it already is. It won't be easy since you can only take Godzilla's design so far in the extreme area before it stops being Godzilla and instead becomes some kind of powerful clone he'd fight, but it CAN be done. Just not easily if they decide to use this fissure form there talking about as the normal form.
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Re: Rejected Godzilla Concept Art

Postby Tohosaurus » Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:27 am

Living Corpse wrote:True, I guess if there is more and they want the final film to have a super form they can make the design more extreme then it already is. It won't be easy since you can only take Godzilla's design so far in the extreme area before it stops being Godzilla and instead becomes some kind of powerful clone he'd fight, but it CAN be done. Just not easily if they decide to use this fissure form there talking about as the normal form.

Off the top of my head, perhaps a Burning Godzilla would have some blotches of fission, especially around his "heart". All of that looking more like Burning Godzilla rather than the fissure streaks in that one artist's work. Then, glowing spines, a spiral (red?) ray, and some more details and you have it. It still isn't as extreme as the original way that you support, but the way I see it nothing will again have that shock-and-awe factor as the first time any of us say Burning Godzilla ripping Hong Kong to pieces in the opening of Godzilla vs Destoroyah.
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Re: Rejected Godzilla Concept Art

Postby Living Corpse » Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:00 am

Yeah Burning Godzilla was really a shocker when I first saw him. I originally just thought that was the boxart until I saw the film itself. And it would be hard to pull that off again.

Maybe if they want they can have these fissures and other traits gradually get more intense through each film like a sort of slow mutation. I mean Burning Godzilla probably didn't even have those big blotches right away, it's possible it started off more settle like fissures before being these big "rashes" you can spot a mile away.

Kinda like how Gamera and Gyaos were slowly changing through the Heisei films.
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Re: Rejected Godzilla Concept Art

Postby Tohosaurus » Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:10 am

Living Corpse wrote:Yeah Burning Godzilla was really a shocker when I first saw him. I originally just thought that was the boxart until I saw the film itself. And it would be hard to pull that off again.

Maybe if they want they can have these fissures and other traits gradually get more intense through each film like a sort of slow mutation. I mean Burning Godzilla probably didn't even have those big blotches right away, it's possible it started off more settle like fissures before being these big "rashes" you can spot a mile away.

Kinda like how Gamera and Gyaos were slowly changing through the Heisei films.

Good ideas.

I think there is a certain difference in your interesting proposal as opposed to what Toho did in 1995. Godzilla absorbed the Baas Island explosion/whateveritwas and as I understand it that's what pushed Godzilla's insides over the edge. In that sense, it probably was a fairly immediate change that we would've seen. Your idea is gradual and is in some ways a darker, more sophisticated path to Burning Godzilla. You could do something like what we discovered in Iron Man 2, where the "thing" that's keeping Stark alive is also killing him. For Godzilla, the changes you suggested would take place over the course of movie one, two, and three, and it wouldn't be until the third that this secret is revealed. Atomic power is the energy source Godzilla uses to survive but it's also killing him.
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Re: Rejected Godzilla Concept Art

Postby gatorzilla » Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:30 am

ZillaEra wrote:
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zilla103192 wrote:Didn't Bob Eggleton describe the concept art he saw being VERY VERY similar to the descriptions of that birdified Godzilla/SpaceGodzilla attacking the Statue of Liberty paintings?

I swear that artist is a legendary pictures artist. He even has a picture similar to the idea of pacific rim on his DA account labeled as "Concept Art"




When did Bob Eggleton say he saw concept art from the LP film?

Here...
Legion1979 wrote:This comes from artist and friend Bob Eggleton, during a conversation the two of us and several friends were having on FB last night...

"I saw one piece of concept art and they seemed to be going the direction of a Burning Godzilla...the spikes were all hot and on fire...All the concept art seems to show this thing that looks like Space Godzilla meets Burning Godzilla, a mountain of toxic waste and garbage with spikey things on it's arms, and burning back spikes."

He knows people in the industry and isn't the type to get thing wrong and certainly not the type to make things up. Concept art it may be, but it still gives us an indication of where LP may be going with the design.

Legion1979 wrote:He goes on to say...

"Everything I have seen indicates this as far as even "rejected" ideas on the web. All the ideas play up that he's glowing or fissioning in some way."



Very interesting. I wonder they have a final design then or close to it? Very cool that Bob has connections in that department

Seems to me like we're looking at the design being either

A) the Comic-Con Godzilla
B) The Godzilla bird-like art with the spikey arms and tail and glowing body on the other page
C) The Hector A Arce sculpture that was going around the web recently
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