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Re: Masers, Super Xs, and general awesome military stuff

Postby Ocean » Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:33 pm

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Re: Masers, Super Xs, and general awesome military stuff

Postby hammysammy59 » Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:56 pm

Buh, real military vehicles/weapons only, please. At least for this first movie, and assuming this movie takes place in a world where this is the first-ever kaiju appearance. In the unlikely event of a sequel to such a movie, THEN they can introduce masers and other wacky shit (under the premise of "we've developed a new weapon in response to Godzilla's previous attack") but for now, I just want real stuff.

However, if this movie takes place in a universe where kaiju attacks have been happening for x number of years (which would surprise me, though not necessarily in a bad way), then I guess superweapons would be A-OK. Hopefully just maser tanks and other simpler things. I REALLY don't want Super X or even Atragon right out the gate. Ok, maybe Atragon.

I think the forthcoming Monsterpocalypse movie will give us plenty of superweapons and mechas to satiate our appetites for them.
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Re: Masers, Super Xs, and general awesome military stuff

Postby Monster Master » Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:59 pm

hammysammy59 wrote:I think the forthcoming Monsterpocalypse movie will give us plenty of superweapons and mechas to satiate our appetites for them.


Based on who's doing that movie, I'm actually expecting giant, robotic heads of Johnny Depp that buzz around shooting lasers from their eyes and spitting missiles from their mouths. All the while a giant-sized Johnny Depp rampages around Deppsville, LA.
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Re: Masers, Super Xs, and general awesome military stuff

Postby hammysammy59 » Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:03 pm

Monster Master wrote:
hammysammy59 wrote:I think the forthcoming Monsterpocalypse movie will give us plenty of superweapons and mechas to satiate our appetites for them.


Based on who's doing that movie, I'm actually expecting giant, robotic heads of Johnny Depp that buzz around shooting lasers from their eyes and spitting missiles from their mouths. All the while a giant-sized Johnny Depp rampages around Deppsville, LA.


Hahaha, fair enough. Hopefully Monsterpocalypse resembles Mars Attacks! more than... anything Burton has done in the last 5 years.

EDIT: Don't forget Helena Bonham Carter tanks!
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Re: Masers, Super Xs, and general awesome military stuff

Postby Living Corpse » Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:03 pm

A healthy combo of both masers and normal, real weapons would be cool, shows how hard it is to kill Godzilla while still having weapons the general public at least has a clue about how powerful they are.
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Re: Masers, Super Xs, and general awesome military stuff

Postby DrKaiju1954 » Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:52 pm

Mostly real weapons(tanks,choppers,artillery,AC-130).The only fake weapon I want to appear in the Maser tank,then ill be happy
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Re: Masers, Super Xs, and general awesome military stuff

Postby TokyoVigilante » Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:06 am

I'd like to see current military technology in combination with some elaborate tactical battle plan, as opposed to just waves of equipment lined up in neat rows to get blown up. (Another reason why Godzilla vs. The Thing is awesome). Some super-tech would be nice to of course.
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Re: Masers, Super Xs, and general awesome military stuff

Postby Legion1979 » Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:45 am

Masers? You guys have got to be kidding me. This thing isn't going to be anything like a Toho film. So masers, Mechaghidora, Megaguirus...I think some of you need to ground yourselves in reality a little bit more.
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Re: Masers, Super Xs, and general awesome military stuff

Postby hammysammy59 » Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:08 am

Legion1979 wrote:Masers? You guys have got to be kidding me. This thing isn't going to be anything like a Toho film. So masers, Mechaghidora, Megaguirus...I think some of you need to ground yourselves in reality a little bit more.


Well hopefully it's at least a LITTLE bit like a Toho film, but I get what you mean. LP is not Toho, this movie is being made in a totally different environment and time period, with completely different resources and expectations and being made to be enjoyed by a mass audience, not hardcore Godzilla fans that frequent message boards. This isn't going to operate like a Toho movie, but hopefully it'll get the spirit and tone of the character right.
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Re: Masers, Super Xs, and general awesome military stuff

Postby Tyler » Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:24 pm

I think the film should be restricted to modern technology.
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Re: Masers, Super Xs, and general awesome military stuff

Postby HayesAJones » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:22 pm

I want to see something along the lines of the D-03 in GMK- something's that interesting and cool, but believable.
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Re: Masers, Super Xs, and general awesome military stuff

Postby Living Corpse » Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:04 pm

I'm OK with masers. Now stuff like Super-X and Mechagodzilla, that should be saved for a later film, IF there is a later film.
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Re: Masers, Super Xs, and general awesome military stuff

Postby HeiseiGodzilla117 » Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:42 pm

Tyler wrote:I think the film should be restricted to modern technology.


This. If they have to invent some kind of super weapon, it shouldn't be something insane like Masers or the Super-X.
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Re: Masers, Super Xs, and general awesome military stuff

Postby Ocean » Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:03 pm

HeiseiGodzilla117 wrote:
Tyler wrote:I think the film should be restricted to modern technology.


This. If they have to invent some kind of super weapon, it shouldn't be something insane like Masers or the Super-X.


I could see masers being brought out. I do agree that it should be restricted. But if a reference is introduced, a maser cannon would be okay.
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Re: Masers, Super Xs, and general awesome military stuff

Postby HeiseiGodzilla117 » Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:07 pm

Ocean wrote:
HeiseiGodzilla117 wrote:
Tyler wrote:I think the film should be restricted to modern technology.


This. If they have to invent some kind of super weapon, it shouldn't be something insane like Masers or the Super-X.


I could see masers being brought out. I do agree that it should be restricted. But if a reference is introduced, a maser cannon would be okay.


Well, it might be okay if they mention developing it in the movie. But if Masers just show up out of nowhere, well I'd rather that not happen.
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Re: Masers, Super Xs, and general awesome military stuff

Postby Showa Gyaos » Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:36 pm

A laser that kills Godzilla in one hit. :D [/sarcasm]

Masers are the only ones I'd recognize.
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Re: Masers, Super Xs, and general awesome military stuff

Postby Inferno Rodan » Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:15 am

I wouldn't mind Maser tanks being brought out as an experimental/prototype thing, with just a handful of them. That way they can be an actual threat instead of some random super high-tech weapon that gets mowed down like any ordinary tank. Sorta like the Masers in the Kiryu movies, but to a much greater extent.

What I really want to see is the full brunt of the US military brought to bear against the monsters. Not just the standard, pansy-ass "Sidewinder missiles and tank rounds" that we constantly get in the Toho movies. I wanna see some REAL damn firepower. It'd also be nice for them to engage the monsters from a realistic distance, too. It's outright retarded to have your vehicles right in front of the monster when you can be hammering them from miles away. Tank cannons have a range of around 4 miles. "Close-range" missiles, like Sidewinders, have an effective range of over 10 miles. Long-range ones can hit targets from over 200 miles away. Bombs are dropped from thousands of feet up.
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Re: Masers, Super Xs, and general awesome military stuff

Postby Burnbreath » Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:41 pm

They're not going to put masers into an American film I can guarantee that. They'll most likely come up with their own advanced weapon to try and defeat him or just let the monsters he battles wear him out and make him go home like most of the Japanese versions end up.
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Re: Masers, Super Xs, and general awesome military stuff

Postby Godzillawolf » Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:30 am

Actually, there are 'energy' weapons in the present, mainly microwave weapons but they're too weak to hurt Godzilla...probably. But still, that doesn't make a Maser too far fetched.

I think electrical canon Masers may be believible, but it'd be different from what we see in Japan, as a real world one would likely be invisible. Which obviously doesn't have the visual impact so I say, at least in the first film, leave it out.

Personally, if there is a super weapon, something like the drill missiles from GMK or the Full Metal Missiles from Godzilla 2000, something that could exist in the real world.
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Re: Masers, Super Xs, and general awesome military stuff

Postby omgitsgodzilla » Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:36 pm

I wants mai Masers. Given decent explanation (probably a little good old Applied Phlebotinum) and adequately good execution, it could fly. I mean, the audience is already suspending their belief for a 50-100 meter nuclear-powered leviathan that can fire beams of pure atomic energy, so why not some laser weapons? Shit, it worked for Star Wars.
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