something i think about from time to time...

[Ocean]

But seriously, why don't you like the opening credits idea?

It's kind of... lazy. I'd like if they could work it into the actual story. This is his big reboot after all. Yeah, GINO came out 10 years, but f*ck that. This is supposed to the real Godzilla.

I agree completely.

I don't like the idea of taking what could be a huge plot and shoving it into the credits. His origin, original or revamped, should be in the new movie.

[xenotactics]

But seriously, why don't you like the opening credits idea?

It's kind of... lazy. I'd like if they could work it into the actual story. This is his big reboot after all. Yeah, GINO came out 10 years, but f*ck that. This is supposed to the real Godzilla.

It's a technique which I associate with bad films. The origin should follow the emergence of Godzilla. If we're going to keep it to a minimum, make the origin become clear during a crisis so that there's no time to talk about it or worry about it once it's explained, but don't have it explained at the onset of the film. That's like going all the way on the first date. Where's the mystery?

[Monster Master]

But seriously, why don't you like the opening credits idea?

It's kind of... lazy. I'd like if they could work it into the actual story. This is his big reboot after all. Yeah, GINO came out 10 years, but f*ck that. This is supposed to the real Godzilla.

I agree completely.

I don't like the idea of taking what could be a huge plot and shoving it into the credits. His origin, original or revamped, should be in the new movie.

The only way that can even be done is if this is a period movie. And I f'n hope it's not.
If not the credits, a short 10-minute origin before opening creds, sorta' like Jason's in the Friday the 13th movie.

It's a technique which I associate with bad films. The origin should follow the emergence of Godzilla. If we're going to keep it to a minimum, make the origin become clear during a crisis so that there's no time to talk about it or worry about it once it's explained, but don't have it explained at the onset of the film. That's like going all the way on the first date. Where's the mystery?

Mystery? Since when is Godzilla mysterious? EVERYONE knows of Godzilla's origin. EVERYONE knows he's a giant nuclear lizard that shoots beams. There's no reason to go indepth. It's been done a thousand times with fans, movies, comics, stories, etc.

Just make the movie a damn epic action movie like it should be.

[Arrow]

I have to agree with the idea of keeping the origin to a minimum.

One of the few things G'98 did right was to keep GINO's origins quick and easy so that the film could proceed with other, more important things (like GINO laying eggs and JP raptor ripoffs!). The first Godzilla movie did the same thing as well, the monster's hypothetical origins were given a quick explanation and the film proceeded forward, no real mention of it made afterwards. I'm personally more concerned with seeing Godzilla do damage and fighting other monsters than I am to see where he comes from. Everyone knows who Godzilla is - a giant monster who shoots rays, destroys cities, and fights other monsters. An in-depth origin isn't really needed to get that across and, IMHO, would only run the risk of overcrowding the film with an unnecessary subplot. That's time that could go towards the human characters, the enemy monster, battle scenes, or city destruction on an epic scale.

Ask a person why he comes to a film of this kind. Does he come to know the origins of Godzilla, or did he come to watch Godzilla blow shit up? My money's on the latter.

If - and I do realize this is a big IF - there's a sequel, then that's when they could delve into the mysteries of Godzilla's past.

[Godzilla 1995]

The first Godzilla movie did the same thing as well, the monster's hypothetical origins were given a quick explanation and the film proceeded forward, no real mention of it made afterwards.

No REAL mention, but the scene of the civilians on the train discussing the nuclear effects Godzilla could have is a rather important scene, pointing out how dangerous Godzilla's origin is. But besides that, I concur.

If - and I do realize this is a big IF - there's a sequel, then that's when they could delve into the mysteries of Godzilla's past.

That's a fairly good idea. Delve into the secrets of the kaiju later on, and bring another kaiju in with similar origins, perhaps?

[HeiseiGodzilla117]

If - and I do realize this is a big IF - there's a sequel, then that's when they could delve into the mysteries of Godzilla's past.

I like that idea! If the story was done that way, then it seems that more enemies could be introduced who tie in to Godzilla's origin as it is revealed.

[Monster Master]

That's a fairly good idea. Delve into the secrets of the kaiju later on, and bring another kaiju in with similar origins, perhaps?

Doesn't scream Destoroyah at all!

[Godzilla 1995]

That's a fairly good idea. Delve into the secrets of the kaiju later on, and bring another kaiju in with similar origins, perhaps?

Doesn't scream Destoroyah at all!

I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm aimed at the Heisei fanboys, but since this is the internet I not sure.

[Monster Master]

That's a fairly good idea. Delve into the secrets of the kaiju later on, and bring another kaiju in with similar origins, perhaps?

Doesn't scream Destoroyah at all!

I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm aimed at the Heisei fanboys, but since this is the internet I not sure.

Nope. He'd make a perfect sequel kaiju if they decide to go that route.

[Godzilla 1995]

Doesn't scream Destoroyah at all!

I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm aimed at the Heisei fanboys, but since this is the internet I not sure.

Nope. He'd make a perfect sequel kaiju if they decide to go that route.

Actually, I was meaning have a kaiju come in that was also hit by nuclear material. Wasn't really thinking about the Oxygen Destroyer at all.

[Tyler]

These movies have monster fights but I've never really considered them action films.

[Monster Master]

These movies have monster fights but I've never really considered them action films.

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[Tyler]

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Blew yer mind didn't it?

[Ocean]

It's kind of... lazy. I'd like if they could work it into the actual story. This is his big reboot after all. Yeah, GINO came out 10 years, but f*ck that. This is supposed to the real Godzilla.

I agree completely.

I don't like the idea of taking what could be a huge plot and shoving it into the credits. His origin, original or revamped, should be in the new movie.

The only way that can even be done is if this is a period movie. And I f'n hope it's not.
If not the credits, a short 10-minute origin before opening creds, sorta' like Jason's in the Friday the 13th movie.

I guess I should clarify a bit. By origin, I'm talking about more than the bomb blowing up. I'm talking about the reveal of the monster, learning about him, finding out his strengths and weaknesses, dealing with him attacking a city, is he hero or villain? etc. The origin story of Batman is more than his parents getting shot. Same with the big G. The only monster movies we've -really- had in America in several years... well it's pretty much Cloverfield. There's a lot you can do with a simple monster-on-the-loose plot if you dig into the simple things. The hiring of this director, to me, points to them doing this.

I also said 'original or re-vamped'. If his origins are nuclear, awesome. I want to see it portrayed somehow on film. If his origins are different, then it -better- be portrayed on film somehow. Remember the original script for GINO had Godzilla as an alien planted monster designed as a protector for Earth? If they go a strange route like that, I want to have the explanation included.

[shinmattiathekaiju]

I'm pretty sure Godzilla in this movie will have a small origin and be something like "He is a unknown sea monster theorizing across the ocean for nearly 60 years that was awakened by North Korean bio nuclear weapons over a year ago". I doubt they will give Godzilla a nuclear origin.

I would rather seeing Godzilla being created by american nukes.

[Ocean]

I'm pretty sure Godzilla in this movie will have a small origin and be something like "He is a unknown sea monster theorizing across the ocean for nearly 60 years that was awakened by North Korean bio nuclear weapons over a year ago". I doubt they will give Godzilla a nuclear origin.

I would rather seeing Godzilla being created by american nukes.

I can totally see them blaming Godzilla on North Korea.

Which reminds me. I want the military characters to a minimum. But that's a different topic i guess.