CGI or rubber suits?

[Rody]

Neither do I. It looks ugly.

[Godzilla99]

A suit

[Living Corpse]

And thus the vicious cycle repeats itself again.

[SaiyanRider54]

I'm gonna say this again. I think this movie should be CGI, but if LP were to use practicle effects (which they aren't) than I can accept it aslong as it looks good. But why do so many people beleive that Godzilla can't be CGI or it will suck? I've seen posts saying that the LP movie will fail JUST because it'll bee CG. WTF? CGI is not what screwed up GINO. GINO failed because...
-It was nothing like the original (plot wise)
-GINO looks NOTHING like Godzilla
-GINO acted NOTHING like Godzilla
-The movie just sucked overall when your not even counting that its a Godzilla movie.
Those are some reasons it sucked, not JUST because it was CGI.
Some people also say that CGI is "lazy" and "unartistic." Well, you know what, one name of a movie completely destroys those statements: Avatar. That movie was had some of the greatest and most beutiful CG I've ever seen.
People also just plain out say that CGI sucks. WTF? I can name multiple movies were the CGI beats all of the Godzilla movies out of the water. If done correctly, CGI looks great, but some people just can't grasp that concept.
I think some people (not all, since I hope some of you guys agree) just need to grow up and realize that we're in a new era of technology and SFX and we can't keep sticking to the past.

Sorry if I sound kinda mean here but this is my honest opinion.
EDIT: I love my G suits, don't get me wrong. I just thing that Godzilla can do just fine as CGI.

[Living Corpse]

I think the best results will be had if we use a combination of both.

But we all know it's just gonna be CGI so whatever. As long as Godzilla has some character and is pulled off well enough that it looks and feels like him then I'm A OKAY with that.

[SaiyanRider54]

I think the best results will be had if we use a combination of both.But we all know it's just gonna be CGI so whatever. As long as Godzilla has some character and is pulled off well enough that it looks and feels like him then I'm A OKAY with that.

A combo of CGI and suites like Gamera 3 would be epic now that I think of it.

[XxComablack1937xX]

Don't personally care as long as it looks an act's like Godzilla.

If it's a suit great, If it's pure CGI great, an if it's a combo of both then great... Just make it look good an act like our traditional Godzilla an i'll be happy.

[Bentley]

I wouldn't mind to see Godzilla films using CGI.

But Godzilla is the perfect excuse to use suit animations, tiny models and camera tricks. This is classic cinema that we're talking about and it shouldn't just dissapear for good.

[CatfaceFourtoes]

You are right about CGI being perfectly acceptable way to do Godzilla..... to a point.
Ever since I first saw the CGI T-Rex from Jurassic Park, that moment where it breaks down the fence and steps through, and then walks into the headlights of the park vehicle, looking totally real and indistinguishable from the practical effects intertwined with the next shots, I was convinced that CGI can look real.

And then they did it again in 'Zilla1998, this time enlarged to Kaiju size.

But that quality has spoiled me, and anything less, with tell-tale excessive blurring or bad physics in the movements of the characters just won't work for me. It's just as hard as trying to ignore the jerkiness in stopmotion. After all these years we still see animation flubs like this in movies.

Avatar is just one of many brilliant exceptions though where they can once more fool us into thinking what we see looks and moves real. There's Gollum, the watcher in The Water and the Balrog from LOTR. Octalus from Deep Rising, the Cloverfield monster and others that look real enough.

It's just those jarring moments that break the illusion that movies using CGI tend to have every so often. It assaults the illusion of reality and sets the effect apart from the live action. When you have a concrete suit actor or prop, you never have to worry about it suddenly moving in a way that looks unnatural, like it is not really there. They are there, they move, they make expressions all in real time, the illusion is seamless when it works. Just look at what was done with Aliens, the early TNMT movies and other works by Jim Henson's creature shop, as well as others. Compared to the illusion of life that those put across, Always 2's type of CGI won't cut it for me. Its gotta be Avatar, Gollum, FFAdventChildren, GINO animation quality or bust for me. If it is that consistent, then I support CGI all the way.

[Rody]

I will be fine with CGI - as long as it's by Industrial Light & Magic or WETA.

[Living Corpse]

I will be fine with CGI - as long as it's by Industrial Light & Magic or WETA.

And as long as he has character. They need to know that Godzilla is more then just a plot device, he has a personality.

[CatfaceFourtoes]

Well, when they usually boast about good CGI now adays they do talk about how hard they work to imbue their creations with character. That is one good thing that practical and CGI effects artists have in common.

What really bothers me about an American production of Godzilla is the probable possibility of not hearing Godzilla's traditional theme music. When I heard Cloverfield's theme, Roar, it about turned my stomach. It sounded like it was mocking Goji's original theme. The director's commentary about how the monster was essentially his take on a Godzilla like monster did not make me feel any better.

There is also the possibility that the film makers might find it hard making a movie where the American humans essentially lose to a giant monster. That was the first thing that popped into my head after I saw GINO gunned down. It usually has to be straight up horror, where humans get cut up and vaporized, stuff that the audience is expected to see. Otherwise the humans must always find a way to save everybody and snuff the monster.

[Living Corpse]

There is also the possibility that the film makers might find it hard making a movie where the American humans essentially lose to a giant monster.

Yeah with America's giant monster films from the 50's and 60's it was always find a weakness or use bigger guns because they were just big animals. In Japan's monster films the monsters are basically natural disasters like a hurricane and they are pretty much helpless no matter what they throw.

I'm wondering what the general movie goer is gonna think if Godzilla just swims away at the end like he does in so many of his films and the "greatest invincible military power in teh woruld everz " not only failed to kill or stop him but have been left in shambles as molten slag from the events of the film. Cause you know, movie goers are used to films like ID4 and how they often show how the U.S. Army will "save the day."

This is of course assuming they do anything like this.

[CatfaceFourtoes]

That was one of the few things I liked about GINO, actually. People's semi-comedic reaction to a giant monster messing everything up.
Can you imagine them reacting the same way to Anguirus walking around New York and bumping into things? Or a worm guy type scientist saying "That's not true. We fed him!" That would be something cool to see to lighten the mood in a Godzilla movie.

[Living Corpse]

That was one of the few things I liked about GINO, actually. People's semi-comedic reaction to a giant monster messing everything up.
Can you imagine them reacting the same way to Anguirus walking around New York and bumping into things? Or a worm guy type scientist saying "That's not true. We fed him!" That would be something cool to see to lighten the mood in a Godzilla movie.

But they still killed GINO. They still treated it as just a big animal instead of a force of nature. But yes I do understand what your saying. I think it would have been better had they shot their missiles, hit him and everyone is smirking thinking it's done only for the wind to blow the smoke away and see him standing there unharmed. Now imagine the reactions and witty lines that would happen from that.

[MothraPeanuts]

People also just plain out say that CGI sucks. WTF? I can name multiple movies were the CGI beats all of the Godzilla movies out of the water.

In what way? In 'realism'? Perhaps, although that was never Tsuburaya's guiding philosophy in the first place. In creativity or craftsmanship? Hell no.

If done correctly, CGI looks great, but some people just can't grasp that concept.

"Hurr durr, I'm right and everyone who disagrees with me just doesn't get it!!!"

I think some people (not all, since I hope some of you guys agree) just need to grow up and realize that we're in a new era of technology and SFX and we can't keep sticking to the past.

"If you agree with me then you're cool, but those some people who don't agree with me need to grow up!" That's what you said.

And it's bullshit.

[Godzilla 2000]

Rubber suits are tradition, but CGI is his future in the US movie.

People need to get real.

[kaiju_wars]

Cause you know, movie goers are used to films like ID4 and how they often show how the U.S. Army will "save the day."

This is of course assuming they do anything like this.

That was the Air Force. THE U.S. AIR FORCE!!!!!

[Living Corpse]

Cause you know, movie goers are used to films like ID4 and how they often show how the U.S. Army will "save the day."

This is of course assuming they do anything like this.

That was the Air Force. THE U.S. AIR FORCE!!!!!

You say that like I should care.

[kaiju_wars]

Cause you know, movie goers are used to films like ID4 and how they often show how the U.S. Army will "save the day."

This is of course assuming they do anything like this.

That was the Air Force. THE U.S. AIR FORCE!!!!!

You say that like I should care.

Yep.
Naw, I just have grown to respect the Air Force, when I joined AFJROTC at my high school, I wanted to join.

But I can't, because I grew up taking ADHD medicine and I have asthma... so yeah.