J.J. Abrams signed a MASSIVE partnership deal with Warner Brothers. Could we see Cloverfield in the Monster Verse?

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Re: J.J. Abrams signed a MASSIVE partnership deal with Warner Brothers. Could we see Cloverfield in the Monster Verse?

Postby darthzilla99 » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:56 am

Terasawa wrote:If the first Cloverfield was retconned into the Monsterverse, would anyone besides MV fans really care that the events don’t align?

Is that alone enough to stop Joe Moviegoer from buying a ticket?


The movie critics would eat it up and overblow it as a huge continuity plot hole. Joe Moviegoer can be influenced by rotten tomatoes with some exceptions (bayformers are the exception).
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Postby Terasawa » Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:06 pm

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Terasawa wrote:If the first Cloverfield was retconned into the Monsterverse, would anyone besides MV fans really care that the events don’t align?

Is that alone enough to stop Joe Moviegoer from buying a ticket?


The movie critics would eat it up and overblow it as a huge continuity plot hole. Joe Moviegoer can be influenced by rotten tomatoes with some exceptions (bayformers are the exception).


Sorry, but I don't see Peter Travers obsessively watching previous Monsterverse movies to see if anything contradicts Cloverfield.
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Postby Rhedosaurus » Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:39 pm

Here's the thing. J.J Abrams isn't a bad director per-se. But he's not a good FRANCHISE director. Most of what he starts he never finishes, the exception is this SW sequel trilogy.

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Postby Destoroyah of Worlds » Sat Sep 21, 2019 3:12 pm

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_JNavs_ wrote:Clover has rec lol, maybe not much, but the recognition is there.

You could have New York have its first encounter with a "monster" in Cloverfield *2008*, and the following nuke that consumes the city could be covered up by Monarch.Thinking they're in the clear (especially since Monarch has known about monsters since before Kong in the 70s) until 2014 when Godzilla and the MUTOs bust out.


People keep saying things like this for kaiju films and I can't stand it.

You can't just cover up a giant monster attacking a major city. Not in 1954, not in 2008, definitely not today. There's far too many eyewitnesses - civilians, emergency services, military personnel, government figures, etc.. Far too many media outlets covering the rampage. Too much damage and lasting evidence like footprints and possibly shed skin or blood or what have you that can't just be hidden. Too many pictures and videos, especially by the time 2008 rolls around (hell, Cloverfield is literally about a random civvie with a handheld camera recording the monster's attack).

And you definitely can't cover up a city getting nuked. At best you could obfuscate the circumstances surrounding why and how the city got nuked, but it's impossible to just up and convince everyone it never happened.

I know I got ninja'd by NSZ but even so

If you're up to date with the Cloverfield franchise, the latest movie was about a particle accelerator and parallel universes.

Once they jumped back to their old universe an
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adult Cloverfield monster appeared.


That opens the door for Clover existing in all sorts of parallel universes.
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Postby G2000 » Sat Sep 21, 2019 3:29 pm

Destoroyah of Worlds wrote:If you're up to date with the Cloverfield franchise, the latest movie was about a particle accelerator and parallel universes.

Once they jumped back to their old universe an adult Cloverfield monster appeared.

That opens the door for Clover existing in all sorts of parallel universes.


Lazy as hell desu, if they're going to do universe-jumping bullshit they should stick with a Pacific Rim crossover
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Postby miguelnuva » Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:40 pm

Playing Devil's advocate here.

Clover appears in the MV due to the events of Paradox. Monarch doesn't know where it came from and why they have never seen this Titan before. Godzilla shows and fights Clover.

Done deal.
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Postby LSD Jellyfish » Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:49 pm

Just a friendly reminder that the thread is clickbaity. Nothing remotely is said that would suggest Cloverfield somehow crossing over anyways.
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Postby _JNavs_ » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:22 pm

If he were to be connected I'd really only dig it if Monarch was heavily involved in the sequel, maybe some name drops and cameos in the background.

But nothing like Godzilla fighting Clover for the whole film, it'd be a cool Woah-Shocker moment in a Godzilla 3 or something, but nothing like a "Godzilla vs Cloverfield: 2020"
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Postby miguelnuva » Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:05 pm

LSD Jellyfish wrote:Just a friendly reminder that the thread is clickbaity. Nothing remotely is said that would suggest Cloverfield somehow crossing over anyways.


The title is no less clickbaity then when we wondered if Kong would cross over in 2014 at Skull Island got announced.
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Postby LSD Jellyfish » Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:25 pm

miguelnuva wrote:
LSD Jellyfish wrote:Just a friendly reminder that the thread is clickbaity. Nothing remotely is said that would suggest Cloverfield somehow crossing over anyways.


The title is no less clickbaity then when we wondered if Kong would cross over in 2014 at Skull Island got announced.

Considering Godzilla was inspired by Kong, Kong appeared and was in Toho films and already crossed over, and It was confirmed to be a film by LEGENDARY, the two scenarios were completely different.

If it was,”Legendary buys Cloverfield” this would be a completely different.
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Rodan95 wrote:The Shobijin are sat on by a fatass explorer and killed. Mothra is pissed and destroys Japan.

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Postby miguelnuva » Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:16 am

LSD Jellyfish wrote:
miguelnuva wrote:
LSD Jellyfish wrote:Just a friendly reminder that the thread is clickbaity. Nothing remotely is said that would suggest Cloverfield somehow crossing over anyways.


The title is no less clickbaity then when we wondered if Kong would cross over in 2014 at Skull Island got announced.

Considering Godzilla was inspired by Kong, Kong appeared and was in Toho films and already crossed over, and It was confirmed to be a film by LEGENDARY, the two scenarios were completely different.

If it was,”Legendary buys Cloverfield” this would be a completely different.


Considering Legendary and WB are partners though as far as speculation were closer now to Clover in the MV than we were when Bad Robot was at paramount. Even if the 1% chance became a 2% chance.

I don't think it will happen but as far as the topic I wouldn't say clickbait. Seems like an honest question.
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Postby JAGzilla » Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:22 am

*raises hand*

Couldn't the continuity issue be solved by just rebooting Cloverfield? Reboots are what Hollywood does best these days, after all.

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Postby king_ghidorah » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:22 am

Who the heck would care??? Besides fanboys who are going to buy tickets anyways???

Also. Cloverfield = Paramount.

This is insanity.
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Postby _JNavs_ » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:36 am

king_ghidorah wrote:Who the heck would care??? Besides fanboys who are going to buy tickets anyways???

Also. Cloverfield = Paramount.

This is insanity.

Cloverfield = WB now
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Postby king_ghidorah » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:39 am

_JNavs_ wrote:
king_ghidorah wrote:Who the heck would care??? Besides fanboys who are going to buy tickets anyways???

Also. Cloverfield = Paramount.

This is insanity.

Cloverfield = WB now


That’s not how this works. That’s not how any of this works.

Just because the guy who produced the film signed an exclusive contract with another studio doesn’t mean that his existing film catalog suddenly transfers to another studio.

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Postby _JNavs_ » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:40 am

king_ghidorah wrote:
_JNavs_ wrote:
king_ghidorah wrote:Who the heck would care??? Besides fanboys who are going to buy tickets anyways???

Also. Cloverfield = Paramount.

This is insanity.

Cloverfield = WB now


That’s not how this works. That’s not how any of this works.

Just because the guy who produced the film signed an exclusive contract with another studio doesn’t mean that his existing film catalog suddenly transfers to another studio.

The deal came with all of his studio's film IPs. What's the chances Cloverfields on there? I'll give you a hint, he doesn't have a long list of personal IPs.

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Postby king_ghidorah » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:43 am

_JNavs_ wrote:
king_ghidorah wrote:
_JNavs_ wrote:Cloverfield = WB now


That’s not how this works. That’s not how any of this works.

Just because the guy who produced the film signed an exclusive contract with another studio doesn’t mean that his existing film catalog suddenly transfers to another studio.

The deal came with all of his studio's film IPs. What's the chances Cloverfields on there? I'll give you a hint, he doesn't have a long list of personal IPs.


Bad Robot also was involved in the latest Star Trek and Star Wars film so are you saying we can have a Star Wars/Trek film involving the MV now???

Your “creative” argument is empty. If anything. The more creative solution would be to create an entirely new IP or to do something original within the established MV.

Crossing over franchises that weren’t designed to go together is strictly a money based solution. The fans arent clamoring for this to happen by and large and even if they were the numbers aren’t there. The GA didn’t care about Rodan, KG and Mothra ...they’re sure as heck not going to care about a Creature from a one off film over 10 years ago. And fans couldn’t make GKOTM a hit so you need that GA appeal
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Postby _JNavs_ » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:44 am

king_ghidorah wrote:
_JNavs_ wrote:
king_ghidorah wrote:
That’s not how this works. That’s not how any of this works.

Just because the guy who produced the film signed an exclusive contract with another studio doesn’t mean that his existing film catalog suddenly transfers to another studio.

The deal came with all of his studio's film IPs. What's the chances Cloverfields on there? I'll give you a hint, he doesn't have a long list of personal IPs.


Bad Robot also was involved in the latest Star Trek and Star Wars film so are you saying we can have a Star Wars/Trek film involving the MV now???
They were involved but Star Trek and Star Wars are not the personal IPs of J.J. Abrams.

Nor have I made any mention that Clovie will indubitably be in the MV if he ended up in the deal.
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Postby king_ghidorah » Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:12 am

So if Clovie wouldn’t be in the film then what would be the point in crossing over at all? Just a title?

So the benefits to this cross over would drop from nothing but for the hardcore fans to ....nothing.

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Postby 2009MECHAGODZILLA » Sun Sep 22, 2019 11:17 am

king_ghidorah wrote:So if Clovie wouldn’t be in the film then what would be the point in crossing over at all? Just a title?

So the benefits to this cross over would drop from nothing but for the hardcore fans to ....nothing.

lmao, so much strawmanning, dude
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