Should Godzilla switch into a villain at some point?

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Re: Should Godzilla switch into a villain at some point?

Postby Living Corpse » Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:45 am

SG-17 wrote:Bad and cheesy Showa encompasses only a handful of films. Raids Again, Kong, Revenge, Gigan, Megalon. The rest of Showa era ranges from good to fantastic.

1954, Mothra vs, Invasion, DAM, and Mechagodzilla at the very least are fantastic, and what do you know but in three of them Godzilla is a hero.

Hero Godzilla is not bound to a specific level of quality or "cheesiness".


Adding to this cheese does not meant bad. I don't think things like super heroes and Ultraman would have endured if they took themselves serious 100% of the time.
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Re: Should Godzilla switch into a villain at some point?

Postby gottatalktothefake » Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:23 pm

Given how he’s been the most benevolent Godzilla since the 70s for 2 movies and 2 comics him doing a 180 would be very sudden and make no sense
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Re: Should Godzilla switch into a villain at some point?

Postby AllosaurHell » Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:14 pm

I'm completely against the idea of Monsterverse Godzilla becoming evil, it just doesn't sit well with me.
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Re: Should Godzilla switch into a villain at some point?

Postby Eel221 » Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:06 pm

Godzilla being a punishment to humanity is ok to me. But after his "heroic" acts (killing MUTOs and Ghidorah) it would be hard to make Godzilla a villain.

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Re: Should Godzilla switch into a villain at some point?

Postby scottzilla » Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:08 am

It completely goes against the character they've established, so I'm against it, but we can't pretend that the "for now" line was just thrown in on a whim without any intention of building off of that, movies just don't(or shouldn't) do that. Don't be fooled, that line was very intentional.

I can maybe see the Orca being used against Godzilla, turning him crazy for a brief period of time during GvK, but not changing his entire character.
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Re: Should Godzilla switch into a villain at some point?

Postby Living Corpse » Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:46 am

scottzilla wrote:It completely goes against the character they've established, so I'm against it, but we can't pretend that the "for now" line was just thrown in on a whim without any intention of building off of that, movies just don't(or shouldn't) do that. Don't be fooled, that line was very intentional.

I can maybe see the Orca being used against Godzilla, turning him crazy for a brief period of time during GvK, but not changing his entire character.


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Re: Should Godzilla switch into a villain at some point?

Postby Olzh26 » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:01 am

character change? lol. it’s just an instinct for self-preservation and the realization that humanity is the same threat as muto or ghidorah. This is a good and absolutely logical motivation. Especially for an animal

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Re: Should Godzilla switch into a villain at some point?

Postby Pacfanweb » Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:07 am

gottatalktothefake wrote:Given how he’s been the most benevolent Godzilla since the 70s for 2 movies and 2 comics him doing a 180 would be very sudden and make no sense

Yeah, you can't change him now.

I can see maybe backing off the "our best friend" a little, make a bit less concerned about human collateral and more of a "defending his territory" type, but you can't just switch him to old-school Godzilla and have him start wiping out cities at this point.

Maybe there can be a revelation by the humans that Godzilla isn't happy with what we're doing to the planet at some point, but that's it.

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Re: Should Godzilla switch into a villain at some point?

Postby master_of_monsters » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:20 pm

I mean, humanity just needs to piss him off and there you go
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Re: Should Godzilla switch into a villain at some point?

Postby Gojira18 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:22 pm

master_of_monsters wrote:I mean, humanity just needs to piss him off and there you go

I mean, if humanity can throw the Oxygen Destroyer at him and he still has the patience of a saint, than nothing can piss him off lol

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Re: Should Godzilla switch into a villain at some point?

Postby master_of_monsters » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:24 pm

Gojira18 wrote:
master_of_monsters wrote:I mean, humanity just needs to piss him off and there you go

I mean, if humanity can throw the Oxygen Destroyer at him and he still has the patience of a saint, than nothing can piss him off lol


wow, you really do mellow with age
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Re: Should Godzilla switch into a villain at some point?

Postby tyrantgoji » Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:09 pm

master_of_monsters wrote:
Gojira18 wrote:
master_of_monsters wrote:I mean, humanity just needs to piss him off and there you go

I mean, if humanity can throw the Oxygen Destroyer at him and he still has the patience of a saint, than nothing can piss him off lol


wow, you really do mellow with age


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Re: Should Godzilla switch into a villain at some point?

Postby Living Corpse » Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:43 pm

Gojira18 wrote:
master_of_monsters wrote:I mean, humanity just needs to piss him off and there you go

I mean, if humanity can throw the Oxygen Destroyer at him and he still has the patience of a saint, than nothing can piss him off lol


Heck the first thing he did when he saw the Male MUTO at the airport was roar at him and then smirk. At the rival species that played a part in killing off his own species. And he even allows a female MUTO to be part of his pack. The worst we've seen him be pissed is King Ghidorah, the mere sight cause the two to scowl at each other.
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Re: Should Godzilla switch into a villain at some point?

Postby Olzh26 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:05 pm

This, by the way, is what I don't like about LG the most. He creates the image of some kind of calm old man who suffers all the attacks on him, although in classical films, on the contrary, he was a rather rude and fervent pangolin with a bad character

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master_of_monsters wrote:I mean, humanity just needs to piss him off and there you go

I mean, if humanity can throw the Oxygen Destroyer at him and he still has the patience of a saint, than nothing can piss him off lol

Godzilla hardly understood at all that it was people who threw the oxygen destroyer at him. At that moment, he was fighting with Ghidorah under water and he hardly understood what was happening at all

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Re: Should Godzilla switch into a villain at some point?

Postby Destoroyah of Worlds » Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:19 am

Eel221 wrote:Godzilla being a punishment to humanity is ok to me. But after his "heroic" acts (killing MUTOs and Ghidorah) it would be hard to make Godzilla a villain.

I had this day dream of the humans killing Godzilla's son accidentally in an attack and he just rains hellfire upon a city like Shin Godzilla. And walks straight into the ocean in disappointment and regret.
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Re: Should Godzilla switch into a villain at some point?

Postby GuardianGhido » Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:26 am

I like to think if humanity ever went too far and completely disrupted the balance of the world in a Ghidorah or MUTO horde level, or proved to be enough of a threat to him for him not to fight back. he'd go full Godzilla Earth on them and drive them off the planet. Maybe a third world war that destroys large landmasses full of natural wonders or an open oxygen destroyer attack on him that he witnesses to be the humans' doing would piss him off enough to consider them a real enemy instead of tiny creatures that barely do anything to the planet (at least compared to the titans' healing effects which are stated to already be overriding global warming ice cap melting and deforestration by KOTM's ending)

There's also another reason he wasn't pissed off completely at the oxygen destroyer, it was aimed at Ghidorah and there was no way anyone would know it wouldn't harm him as well. Even if he did realize that the OD was a human weapon, maybe he just thought that they were aiming for Ghidorah instead of him and didn't hold that against them too much. (He also furiously glared at the humans waiting for him on the surface, I like to think that the OD made him more wary of the humans because if they can do that, ignoring them is not an option. But then he decided they weren't completely at fault and were aiming at Ghidorah too, so he let it slide...for now, as Dr. Chen said)
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Re: Should Godzilla switch into a villain at some point?

Postby Eel221 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:35 am

Destoroyah of Worlds wrote:I had this day dream of the humans killing Godzilla's son accidentally in an attack and he just rains hellfire upon a city like Shin Godzilla. And walks straight into the ocean in disappointment and regret.


Hey, this sounds interesting! Probably one of the few ways to make a "good" Godzilla angry.

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Re: Should Godzilla switch into a villain at some point?

Postby Sonic » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:31 pm

Should Godzilla switch into a villain at some point?

No.

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Re: Should Godzilla switch into a villain at some point?

Postby KingKaiju » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:05 am

I don't think he should necessarily be a villain, but just be indifferent to humans. If he has to stomp 1000 people to get to Ghidorah, do it. Makes me think of how Gamera torched Shibuya to kill the three Gyoas in Gamera 3.
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Re: Should Godzilla switch into a villain at some point?

Postby _JNavs_ » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:32 am

If Jonah and his Eco-Crew took refuge in a building after hitting Godzilla with some super weapon, it'd be a cool callback to his old persona if Godzilla just goes to town on the whole building and as Jonah tries to escape on a Bullet train, Godzilla homages 54 by picking up and destroying the train in his jaws.
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