What Are Your Complaints About KOTM?

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Re: What Are Your Complaints About KOTM?

Postby Hokmuto » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:31 am

I have seen the movie 5 times in theatres, so I haven't seen it in a while, but it's kinda forgettable to be honest. Like I distinctly remember the Rodan entrance, Fire Godzilla and the bowing scene, but that's about all. I barely even recall that the Oxygen Destroyer was in it.

KOTM can be summed up like this: It's a dumb, sometimes cringey, B-movie, easter egg infested, yet fun movie.
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Re: What Are Your Complaints About KOTM?

Postby Orichalcum » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:33 am

It could have and should have been so much better.
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Postby Hokmuto » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:37 am

Orichalcum wrote:So I rewatched the movie last night to reassess everything-

The Godzilla/San Francisco flashback still stands strong as the worst special effects scene in the movie. Where everything is greenscreen except the actors, the whole thing just looks “off”.

Finally someone else has said this. I've been thinking to myself it just looks real bad, but saw no one else talk about it whatsoever, which I found real odd (although to be fair I've only looked through IG and YT). Probably is blind-praise from the fandom.
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Re: What Are Your Complaints About KOTM?

Postby Orichalcum » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:42 am

^ I brought it up a while back and so did one other member but yeah, other than that, no ones made mention of it because it physically hurts some here to criticize the film for some reason.

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Another thing I forgot to mention earlier because I was solely detailing specific scenes- I hate all the exposition dumps this film does, it’s supposed to be this grand scale Godzilla movie and a majority of its dialogue is just characters telling instead of showing.
The “Ghidorah is shaping the planet to his liking” bit is a huge offender of this, like how on Earth could anyone decipher that out of Ghidorah’s actions when he’s just doing what Ghidorah always does: rampaging. It’s lazy.


I also hate how sassy Dr. Chen comes off to Admiral Stenz when they’re discussing the Titan’s sporadic behavior, like was that really necessary?
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Postby Gawdziller1954 » Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:52 am

Orichalcum wrote:I also hate how sassy Dr. Chen comes off to Admiral Stenz when they’re discussing the Titan’s sporadic behavior, like was that really necessary?

She was probably sassing him thanks to his genius plan to use the OD on earth's protector
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Postby Orichalcum » Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:56 am

Gawdziller1954 wrote:
Orichalcum wrote:I also hate how sassy Dr. Chen comes off to Admiral Stenz when they’re discussing the Titan’s sporadic behavior, like was that really necessary?

She was probably sassing him thanks to his genius plan to use the OD on earth's protector

But it wasn’t the subject at hand so it comes off unnecessary
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Postby master_of_monsters » Sun Sep 01, 2019 2:57 pm

they should've just kept the 2014 roar with slight alterations here and there instead of that random Showa roar thrown about periodically in the film. it just doesn't fit the design
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Postby goji89 » Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:30 pm

master_of_monsters wrote:they should've just kept the 2014 roar with slight alterations here and there instead of that random Showa roar thrown about periodically in the film. it just doesn't fit the design


Man, for a second there I thought you were talking about Shin.
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Re: What Are Your Complaints About KOTM?

Postby Orichalcum » Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:35 pm

master_of_monsters wrote:they should've just kept the 2014 roar with slight alterations here and there instead of that random Showa roar thrown about periodically in the film. it just doesn't fit the design

Agreed, I love the classic roar but the one Gareth came up with fits the MV character perfectly.

The Showa roars come off as lazy fan service
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Postby master_of_monsters » Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:51 pm

goji89 wrote:
master_of_monsters wrote:they should've just kept the 2014 roar with slight alterations here and there instead of that random Showa roar thrown about periodically in the film. it just doesn't fit the design


Man, for a second there I thought you were talking about Shin.


no but I have the same issue with that one too
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Re: What Are Your Complaints About KOTM?

Postby GoWhaleTours » Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:04 pm

The showa roar was actually one of my few best parts of the film. I think it fit really well, especially when it was mixed with the original.
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Postby GuardianGhido » Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:07 am

GoWhaleTours wrote:The showa roar was actually one of my few best parts of the film. I think it fit really well, especially when it was mixed with the original.

Yeah mixing the two with the 2014 SKREE and Showa ONK seems to create the best roar IMO. 2014 by itself is also great though, and a few Showa roars sound fine to me such as when he falls into Ghidorah's pit (though some like the Boston roar are a bit unfitting)
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Postby Living Corpse » Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:25 am

GoWhaleTours wrote:The showa roar was actually one of my few best parts of the film. I think it fit really well, especially when it was mixed with the original.


It's very situational, some spots it worked, some it didn't.
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Postby master_of_monsters » Mon Sep 02, 2019 2:17 pm

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GoWhaleTours wrote:The showa roar was actually one of my few best parts of the film. I think it fit really well, especially when it was mixed with the original.

Yeah mixing the two with the 2014 SKREE and Showa ONK seems to create the best roar IMO. 2014 by itself is also great though, and a few Showa roars sound fine to me such as when he falls into Ghidorah's pit (though some like the Boston roar are a bit unfitting)


funny enough the pitfall roar is the one I don't like the most. The full moon roar (2014+54) is probably one of my favorites, also when he's running and ghids
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Re: What Are Your Complaints About KOTM?

Postby attilagodzilla » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:22 pm

So I watched final wars fir the first time in ages, and while it is bad, I can atleast say one thing, when Godzilla appeared we did get a lot of Godzilla and a lot of camera focusing on just the monsters, even the finale seemed to be 50/50 monster human action that's more than what I can say for KOTM
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Postby Living Corpse » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:29 pm

attilagodzilla wrote:So I watched final wars fir the first time in ages, and while it is bad, I can atleast say one thing, when Godzilla appeared we did get a lot of Godzilla and a lot of camera focusing on just the monsters, even the finale seemed to be 50/50 monster human action that's more than what I can say for KOTM


Sure if you don't mind Godzilla feeling like Ryu in Street Fighter and the other monsters being poor retarded CPUs being one shot.
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Re: What Are Your Complaints About KOTM?

Postby daveblackeye15 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:31 pm

attilagodzilla wrote:So I watched final wars fir the first time in ages, and while it is bad, I can atleast say one thing, when Godzilla appeared we did get a lot of Godzilla and a lot of camera focusing on just the monsters, even the finale seemed to be 50/50 monster human action that's more than what I can say for KOTM


Did we watch the same pair of movies? Because I distinctly remember the finale of FW being more...90 percent human-aliens-mutants and 10 percent Godzilla vs. Monster X. Like seriously I think we barely got a minute of Godzilla, Mothra, Monster X and Gigan fighting. Then once the Mutant leader was taken care of the director decided to speed through Godzilla vs. Keizer Ghidorah with it being a 'first one whups the other and then it is reversed.' KOTMs did a four two on two battle MUCH better.

Addition: Ryu in Street Fighter? I actually heard they made that suit the lightest in FW to allow more melee with is great! Seems like they went with the same thing for Monster X. Awesome!..Except they barely fight so what a waste!

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Re: What Are Your Complaints About KOTM?

Postby Orichalcum » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:32 pm

Living Corpse wrote:
attilagodzilla wrote:So I watched final wars fir the first time in ages, and while it is bad, I can atleast say one thing, when Godzilla appeared we did get a lot of Godzilla and a lot of camera focusing on just the monsters, even the finale seemed to be 50/50 monster human action that's more than what I can say for KOTM


the other monsters being poor retarded CPUs being one shot.

Just like Rodan and Mothra?
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Re: What Are Your Complaints About KOTM?

Postby _JNavs_ » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:39 pm

Orichalcum wrote:
Living Corpse wrote:
attilagodzilla wrote:So I watched final wars fir the first time in ages, and while it is bad, I can atleast say one thing, when Godzilla appeared we did get a lot of Godzilla and a lot of camera focusing on just the monsters, even the finale seemed to be 50/50 monster human action that's more than what I can say for KOTM


the other monsters being poor retarded CPUs being one shot.

Just like Rodan and Mothra?

Rodan sauced Mothra and Mexico, temporarily put the work on Ghidorah, and survived.

Mothra saved Godzilla, outmaneuvered Rodan, and managed to get a shot off on Ghidorah.


Yeah MV Mothra's a one shot, but most of the Kaiju in FW are straight up special ed.
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Re: What Are Your Complaints About KOTM?

Postby attilagodzilla » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:51 pm

Atleast we got more than one minute of the camera focusing just on the Kaiju. KOTM felt the need to cut every few seconds
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