KOTM: The Positives

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Re: KOTM: The Positives

Postby Julia Bristow » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:17 am

1. The designs for Godzilla, Rodan and King Ghidorah
2. The new monsters (I refuse to call these monsters TITANS, I mean what's wrong with using the word monster or kaiju in the MONSTERverse films anyways)
3. Bear McCreary's music (though I'd rather have heard Blue Oyster Cult's Go Godzilla song than some lame cover)
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Re: KOTM: The Positives

Postby tyrantgoji » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:06 am

1: Behemoth. need i say more?
2: the other monsters look really well done.
3: Bear is certainly on top spot for best music in a Goji film
4: the sacrifice scene and Serizawa in general

that's honestly it for me. everything the film nails it NAILS... but everything it fails,it fails hard.

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Re: KOTM: The Positives

Postby Dr. Professor » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:42 am

tyrantgoji wrote:Bear is certainly on top spot for best music in a Goji film

A top spot or the top spot?
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Re: KOTM: The Positives

Postby tyrantgoji » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:04 am

Dr. Professor wrote:
tyrantgoji wrote:Bear is certainly on top spot for best music in a Goji film

A top spot or the top spot?


A top spot. he's got what it takes to get to THE top though!

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Re: KOTM: The Positives

Postby Gojira18 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:08 am

I consider him the second best next to Ifukube himself

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Re: KOTM: The Positives

Postby Stump Feet » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:12 am

That's going a little too far in my opinion, Masaru composed a number of amazing scores in his own right, he's easily my #2
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Re: KOTM: The Positives

Postby Maritonic » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:38 am

As much as I loved the score for this, Ifukube, Otani, and Oshima all did better work in my opinion.
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Re: KOTM: The Positives

Postby Dynomy-DX » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:43 am

I... got a lot to say.

- The monsters, by far, have so much personality to each of them. From Godzilla’s stoic nature to Rodan’s total jackass nature and Mothra’s graceful and loyal presence. Don’t even get me started on King Ghidorah, considering how much his heads interacted. These feel like the definitive version of the characters for me, and I loved every second they were on screen.
- The humans were a huge improvement from 2014. I didn’t think they were that bad, tbh. They had funny moments and had fun dynamics. Of course, Serizawa stole the show every time he was on screen. You can’t beat Watanabe’s performance.
- THE MUSIC. Man, every monster’s theme was just so good with how they blend it into the action. Also, I friggin love the BOC cover theme. That is just my jam at this point.
- The action. The monster fighting was as creative and brutal as ever, letting the CG do new things the monsters couldn’t normally do. While the human perspective was divisive, I still loved whenever the action went down.
- The original monsters I thought were great. Small parts, yes, but the fact that they all got a resonant reaction and a tiny fan base says a lot for their overall appearance.
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Re: KOTM: The Positives

Postby Stump Feet » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:09 am

Maritonic wrote:As much as I loved the score for this, Ifukube, Otani, and Oshima all did better work in my opinion.

Full heatedly agree, especially with Oshima

Otani's good too, GGOTU is probably my favorite of his works, GMK being my second favorite of his.

McCreary was good, but his work in no way compares to the legends.
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Re: KOTM: The Positives

Postby GuardianGhido » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:23 am

Stump Feet wrote:
Maritonic wrote:As much as I loved the score for this, Ifukube, Otani, and Oshima all did better work in my opinion.

Full heatedly agree, especially with Oshima

Otani's good too, GGOTU is probably my favorite of his works, GMK being my second favorite of his.

McCreary was good, but his work in no way compares to the legends.

I dunno, sure he might not exactly be on the level of the legends themselves, but I think he still did a great job that comes close. I say he might not exceed them, but his work isn't just incomparably inferior either. (And opinions can vary. I find his the 2nd best after Ifukube.)
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Re: KOTM: The Positives

Postby Maritonic » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:26 am

GuardianGhido wrote:
Stump Feet wrote:
Maritonic wrote:As much as I loved the score for this, Ifukube, Otani, and Oshima all did better work in my opinion.

Full heatedly agree, especially with Oshima

Otani's good too, GGOTU is probably my favorite of his works, GMK being my second favorite of his.

McCreary was good, but his work in no way compares to the legends.

I dunno, sure he might not exactly be on the level of the legends themselves, but I think he still did a great job that comes close. (And opinions can vary. I find his the 2nd best after Ifukube.)


Yeah, I mean. He did a good job. But I can't conjure up any of his cues in my mind the way I can with the musicians I named. Again, he was great. I really enjoyed his music. I just think if we're going to compare to other composers, his score ranks middle or lower.
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Re: KOTM: The Positives

Postby GojiDog » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:28 am

At the very least, Bear McCreary delivered a score I'd say was definitely the best of the American Godzilla films (and I liked Desplat's score), and one of the top ten in the franchise as a whole. Ifukube is hard to compete against in this realm, and there have been other greats as well (Oshima, Otani, etc.) but I think Bear's score fits right in with Godzilla's musical legacy like a glove.

As for the monsters, I'd say this film gave me what might be my favorite version of King Ghidorah, the Legendary Godzilla is probably my favorite "hero" Godzilla, and it also gave us one of the best versions of both Mothra and Rodan as well. My favorite Rodan is the 56 take and my favorite Mothra is the 64 version, but the 2019 counterparts aren't far behind.

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Re: KOTM: The Positives

Postby Stump Feet » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:29 am

GuardianGhido wrote:I dunno, sure he might not exactly be on the level of the legends themselves, but I think he still did a great job that comes close. I say he might not exceed them, but his work isn't just incomparably inferior either. (And opinions can vary. I find his the 2nd best after Ifukube.)

Trust me, with as much as you go on about this movie, no one here's gonna find that as a surprise :lol:
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Re: KOTM: The Positives

Postby king_ghidorah » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:32 am

The score was the best part of the movie. Mileage will vary on how good it stacks compared to other Godzilla films but for me it’s near the top.

Besides that.

Godzilla and Rodan’s designs are terrific. Kg is good. Mothra passable.

Anyways. I could type a novel but I’ll keep it short. Monster designs and music are the highlights for me. Oddly, neither of those have anything to do with the actual direction or script of the film

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Re: KOTM: The Positives

Postby Stump Feet » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:34 am

GojiDog wrote:it also gave us one of the best versions of Mothra, my favorite Mothra is the 64 version, but the 2019 counterparts aren't far behind.

With what little screentime she has, Mothra functions as nothing more than a power-up for Godzilla at the end so I'm definitely going to have to disagree with this as well.
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Re: KOTM: The Positives

Postby king_ghidorah » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:39 am

Haha haha.

I just imagine her a giant mushroom now to Godzilla’s Mario.


But that’s totally accurate.

The score made me teary eyed because of my past knowledge and connection to the character ...but the movie doesn’t earn it

Also. Hate the “Predator mouth” on her

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Re: KOTM: The Positives

Postby gottatalktothefake » Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:50 am

The new BoC song rendition is incredible. I listen to it almost daily
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Re: KOTM: The Positives

Postby GuardianGhido » Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:51 am

gottatalktothefake wrote:The new BoC song rendition is incredible. I listen to it almost daily

Those orchestral bits and chanting really mesh well with the guitar and vocals IMO. I sang along in all of my viewings (I so wish I could have been at that G Fest Sing-along)
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Re: KOTM: The Positives

Postby SteveMartinLives » Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:37 am

Stump Feet wrote:
GojiDog wrote:it also gave us one of the best versions of Mothra, my favorite Mothra is the 64 version, but the 2019 counterparts aren't far behind.

With what little screentime she has, Mothra functions as nothing more than a power-up for Godzilla at the end so I'm definitely going to have to disagree with this as well.


Wasn't the larval Mothra/ORCA introduction scene and the activity at the Chinese temple a large plot point of the first quarter of the movie? Saying she ONLY served as a power up is a little selective.

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Re: KOTM: The Positives

Postby GojiDog » Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:52 am

SteveMartinLives wrote:
Stump Feet wrote:
GojiDog wrote:it also gave us one of the best versions of Mothra, my favorite Mothra is the 64 version, but the 2019 counterparts aren't far behind.

With what little screentime she has, Mothra functions as nothing more than a power-up for Godzilla at the end so I'm definitely going to have to disagree with this as well.


Wasn't the larval Mothra/ORCA introduction scene and the activity at the Chinese temple a large plot point of the first quarter of the movie? Saying she ONLY served as a power up is a little selective.


Also, she helped MONARCH find Godzilla, and defeated Rodan in the final battle.

So, you know, there's that.


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