The Villians of the Next Film (massive spoilers)

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Re: The Villians of the Next Film (massive spoilers)

Postby Hokmuto » Fri May 31, 2019 2:42 pm

Next villains FOR SURE (not saying they will be in GvK, but just in general in the Monsterverse):
-Mechagodzilla
-Ghidorah/Ghidorah hybrid

Destroyah is a bit more iffy.

Anyhow, I don't think Ghidorah is returning in GvK for....reasons.
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Postby Xagzan » Fri May 31, 2019 2:56 pm

C'mon guys. The villain will obviously be Tywin Lannister piloting Mecha King Ghidorah :P

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Postby Ben Shapiro » Fri May 31, 2019 3:40 pm

Mechagodzilla is a strong possibility but I’m leaning towards some Titan hybrid
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Postby SG-17 » Fri May 31, 2019 6:34 pm

I can see it being a big battle royale. Godzilla, Kong, Mothra 2, Rodan, Mechagodzilla, Bizarro Ghidorah.

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Postby Olzh26 » Fri May 31, 2019 11:45 pm

I think the new Muto is an intermediate form between the usual Muto and Prime

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Postby Bentley » Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:19 am

My money is on Biollante. The eco terrorists trying to find a way to build a kaiju that will enhance the planet's recovery would make sense in universe. I'd be up for the twist of having a second villain on it like Space Godzilla (make him a Ghidorah/Godzilla hybrid). Then you hint Destoroyah for a future entry.

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Postby LSD Jellyfish » Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:29 am

The thought occurred to me: what if instead of using Godzilla cells to make Biollante, they use Ghidorah’s? I mean they have the head. It also occurred to me how big of a deal they make during the end credits how big of a deal the monsters can be used for pharmaceutical and terraforming purposes; not unlike what happened with Biollante.

It’s also possible with the hunting monsters idea, they may be leading into an incursion on Skull island, provoking Kong and giving him good reason to become a villain.
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Postby Legendary Gojira » Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:37 am

Since Legendary has thrown the realism angle out the door and are going balls to the wall with an alien origin for Ghidorah and ancient civilizations older than Egypt and Rome (hinting at Atlantis?) that worships the Titans, I hope they go for Gamera now. I would LOVE to see Legendary’s take on the Guardian of the Universe. Not necessarily to be a villain, but to see Gamera clash with Godzilla, Rodan or Kong would be epic.
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Postby Shadowfyre » Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:52 am

Did yall not see the movie? The whole plan was Emmas to begin with. And Chatles Dance already confirmed he is not in Kong

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Postby Living Corpse » Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:58 am

Legendary Gojira wrote:Since Legendary has thrown the realism angle out the door and are going balls to the wall with an alien origin for Ghidorah and ancient civilizations older than Egypt and Rome (hinting at Atlantis?) that worships the Titans, I hope they go for Gamera now. I would LOVE to see Legendary’s take on the Guardian of the Universe. Not necessarily to be a villain, but to see Gamera clash with Godzilla, Rodan or Kong would be epic.


Still more grounded than most Godzilla things. :lol:
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Postby LSD Jellyfish » Sat Jun 01, 2019 4:09 am

Shadowfyre wrote:Did yall not see the movie? The whole plan was Emmas to begin with. And Chatles Dance already confirmed he is not in Kong

It was Emma’s plan to begin with but Jonah was clearly pushing it along. One thing I noticed is that it is clear that things did not go according to plan. Ghidorah remains the central villain. I am also disappointed because Chatles Dance was one of the best parts of that film. He has a legitimately intimidating face and presence. I wish he would come back, because my wild head cannon is that he may be a showa era alien invader.

Legendary Gojira wrote:Since Legendary has thrown the realism angle out the door and are going balls to the wall with an alien origin for Ghidorah and ancient civilizations older than Egypt and Rome (hinting at Atlantis?) that worships the Titans, I hope they go for Gamera now. I would LOVE to see Legendary’s take on the Guardian of the Universe. Not necessarily to be a villain, but to see Gamera clash with Godzilla, Rodan or Kong would be epic.

I don’t think that Legendary has completely thrown realism out the window. This is like a bridge into it. The Argo, while ridiculously big, is just that; a bigger VTOL. The bases, while riduclous, are actual possibilities (assuming money is infinite). All of this also does make sense in a semi five year gap. The best analogy I can make, is to Godzilla vs Biollante. There are clear technological crazy advances, but it hasn’t gone full blown Mechagodzilla yet. It also introduced the IDEA of aliens, and other crazy poop, with the introduction of Ghidorah being an alien, vaguely.

It’s like how GTTHM introduced the idea of space monsters and aliens through possessions, before IATOM had ufos and space travel.

I honestly couldn’t care less about Gamera. It’s just a Godzilla knockoff, and with the exception of maybe the Heisei trilogy the majority of the films are trash.
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Postby Olzh26 » Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:11 am

I hope that the Ledgandary will make kaiju more diverse in terms of their origin. I am very glad that Ghidorah turned out to be a alien and not just another ancient supervid who eats radiation. We will wait for the appearance of mutants, hybrids, anomalies, robots and others, in a realistic and reasonable performance, in the style of Legendary
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Postby JesstrK » Sat Jun 01, 2019 10:02 am

I don’t think Ghidorah will return or be utilized in GvK, mostly because it seems Charles Dance is not in it. I think the end credits scene of KOTM was more meant to lead into Godzilla 3, whether it’s Mecha Ghidorah, a powered up regenerated Ghidorah, or something new. Sadly we may never know due to negative box office and critical reception for KOTM. Even if we get a sequel they might abandon that plot point. Hopefully box office numbers go up.

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Postby BARAGONBREH » Sat Jun 01, 2019 10:08 am

I mean isn't it obvious here?

Mecha G seems all but confirmed for GvK like I predicted years ago.

GvK - Mecha G
Next movie (DAM-type film perhaps?): Mecha KG, after Jonah's people steals the tech.
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Postby Pkmatrix » Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:06 pm

BARAGONBREH wrote:I mean isn't it obvious here?

Mecha G seems all but confirmed for GvK like I predicted years ago.

GvK - Mecha G
Next movie (DAM-type film perhaps?): Mecha KG, after Jonah's people steals the tech.


Now that I've seen the text from the credits pointed out with a screencap, I agree about Mechagodzilla. I also agree they're saving whatever's going on with Jonah and Ghidorah for whatever is planned for following GvK.

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Postby _JNavs_ » Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:22 pm

Pkmatrix wrote:
BARAGONBREH wrote:I mean isn't it obvious here?

Mecha G seems all but confirmed for GvK like I predicted years ago.

GvK - Mecha G
Next movie (DAM-type film perhaps?): Mecha KG, after Jonah's people steals the tech.


Now that I've seen the text from the credits pointed out with a screencap, I agree about Mechagodzilla. I also agree they're saving whatever's going on with Jonah and Ghidorah for whatever is planned for following GvK.

I think that "for now" quote by Dr. Chen was foreshadowing Godzilla's eventual turn due to feeling betrayed by the humans for developing an identical rival mechanical beast to take his "crown" as Alpha from him. Leading to either Godzilla and Kong duking it out as the Big Boss, or both of them have to take on Mechagodzilla during the third act similar to Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla with Caesar being replaced with Kong.
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Postby BARAGONBREH » Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:31 pm

_JNavs_ wrote:
Pkmatrix wrote:
BARAGONBREH wrote:I mean isn't it obvious here?

Mecha G seems all but confirmed for GvK like I predicted years ago.

GvK - Mecha G
Next movie (DAM-type film perhaps?): Mecha KG, after Jonah's people steals the tech.


Now that I've seen the text from the credits pointed out with a screencap, I agree about Mechagodzilla. I also agree they're saving whatever's going on with Jonah and Ghidorah for whatever is planned for following GvK.

I think that "for now" quote by Dr. Chen was foreshadowing Godzilla's eventual turn due to feeling betrayed by the humans for developing an identical rival mechanical beast to take his "crown" as Alpha from him. Leading to either Godzilla and Kong duking it out as the Big Boss, or both of them have to take on Mechagodzilla during the third act similar to Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla with Caesar being replaced with Kong.


Yeah, I've seen this theory, but I have to dissent, because:

a. I highly doubt they're going to use Mecha G as a prelude to what we already know for sure is coming.
b. I doubt Godzilla is going to "feel betrayed" by Mecha G and turn on humans. More likely, he has already turned on them after the mess they created in KOTM. Or, more realistically, he hasn't "turned" so much as reclaimed dominion over the earth since the bowing scene, leading humans to panic and build Mecha G (God it felt stupid writing that). It's this that will lead to the inevitable team up against Mecha G.
c. This series isn't going to have Godzilla become a true antagonist. If it did, it would be the last we saw of him - and if this is the last we're going to see of him, then we need to figure out what they're going to do with that Ghidorah head, because that's going to come before Godzilla bows out.
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Postby Mr_Goji_and_Watch » Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:35 pm

The villain might be the Netflix algorithm if Warner decides to dump it on to streaming
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Re: The Villians of the Next Film (massive spoilers)

Postby BARAGONBREH » Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:36 pm

Mr_Goji_and_Watch wrote:The villain might be the Netflix algorithm if Warner decides to dump it on to streaming


LMFAO. Could you imagine what would happen to this board if this actually happens?
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Re: The Villians of the Next Film (massive spoilers)

Postby Arbok » Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:40 pm

Mr_Goji_and_Watch wrote:The villain might be the Netflix algorithm if Warner decides to dump it on to streaming


Unnecessary comment, don't try to stir the pot.

Ignoring the financial reality of that, I'm sure Toho's contract around the Godzilla license specifically stipulates theatrical releases to maintain the rights.
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