Re: Gamera in the Monsterverse
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 3:12 pm
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Re: Gamera in the Monsterverse
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 3:54 pm
While comparisons to the MCU are overdone and tiring it's worth noting that they started out with the relatively "grounded" Iron Man I and II and The Incredible Hulk before they got all space fantasy with the rest_JNavs_ wrote:I don't think Marvel counts here, since most of what's been done in the MCU is complete fantasy and a far cry from what the Monsterverse has aimed for in the past 5 years.
Re: Gamera in the Monsterverse
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 3:56 pm
That's true, but they also had Thor around the same time Ironman 2 came out (I think), so while the grounded elements were definitely there, it was pretty short lived as soon as Thor popped up.G2000 wrote:While comparisons to the MCU are overdone and tiring it's worth noting that they started out with the relatively "grounded" Iron Man I and II and The Incredible Hulk before they got all space fantasy with the rest_JNavs_ wrote:I don't think Marvel counts here, since most of what's been done in the MCU is complete fantasy and a far cry from what the Monsterverse has aimed for in the past 5 years.
Re: Gamera in the Monsterverse
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:04 pm
You mean what the Monsterverse has aimed for in all of two, maybe three movies? The realism/fantasy stand is far from set in stone. Besides, I'd argue "pseudo-realism" has more to do with the tone and atmosphere than the quasi scientific plausibility really. Gamera can easily fit into a franchise with the Hollow Earth and space dragons. Just give him the same pseudo science fiction based spiel everything else has._JNavs_ wrote:I don't think Marvel counts here, since most of what's been done in the MCU is complete fantasy and a far cry from what the Monsterverse has aimed for in the past 5 years.
Plus both GotG and Rampage, specifically more so Rampage, played up the comedy and upped the fun factor to max while diminishing it's story and themes .
The Monsterverse while touching on elements such as extraterrestrial life and the Hollow Earth theory, keep it a lot more uniform and science-based. It's Pseudo-realism with touches of the fantastical (within the realm of believability and homaging what's come before)
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Gamera could be the Monsterverse's Thor._JNavs_ wrote:That's true, but they also had Thor around the same time Ironman 2 came out (I think), so while the grounded elements were definitely there, it was pretty short lived as soon as Thor popped up.G2000 wrote:While comparisons to the MCU are overdone and tiring it's worth noting that they started out with the relatively "grounded" Iron Man I and II and The Incredible Hulk before they got all space fantasy with the rest_JNavs_ wrote:I don't think Marvel counts here, since most of what's been done in the MCU is complete fantasy and a far cry from what the Monsterverse has aimed for in the past 5 years.
Re: Gamera in the Monsterverse
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:05 pm
Oh no I think you misunderstood, I think Gamera could fit in the Monsterverse. But comparing the Monsterverse to something like GOTG or Rampage just isn't the same for the reasons I listed.Vakanai wrote:You mean what the Monsterverse has aimed for in all of two, maybe three movies? The realism/fantasy stand is far from set in stone. Besides, I'd argue "pseudo-realism" has more to do with the tone and atmosphere than the quasi scientific plausibility really. Gamera can easily fit into a franchise with the Hollow Earth and space dragons. Just give him the same pseudo science fiction based spiel everything else has._JNavs_ wrote:I don't think Marvel counts here, since most of what's been done in the MCU is complete fantasy and a far cry from what the Monsterverse has aimed for in the past 5 years.
Plus both GotG and Rampage, specifically more so Rampage, played up the comedy and upped the fun factor to max while diminishing it's story and themes .
The Monsterverse while touching on elements such as extraterrestrial life and the Hollow Earth theory, keep it a lot more uniform and science-based. It's Pseudo-realism with touches of the fantastical (within the realm of believability and homaging what's come before)
Re: Gamera in the Monsterverse
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:17 pm
Oh yeah, okay then I get that. Although I wouldn't mind a comedy film or two set in the Monsterverse just for variety._JNavs_ wrote:Oh no I think you misunderstood, I think Gamera could fit in the Monsterverse. But comparing the Monsterverse to something like GOTG or Rampage just isn't the same for the reasons I listed.Vakanai wrote:You mean what the Monsterverse has aimed for in all of two, maybe three movies? The realism/fantasy stand is far from set in stone. Besides, I'd argue "pseudo-realism" has more to do with the tone and atmosphere than the quasi scientific plausibility really. Gamera can easily fit into a franchise with the Hollow Earth and space dragons. Just give him the same pseudo science fiction based spiel everything else has._JNavs_ wrote:I don't think Marvel counts here, since most of what's been done in the MCU is complete fantasy and a far cry from what the Monsterverse has aimed for in the past 5 years.
Plus both GotG and Rampage, specifically more so Rampage, played up the comedy and upped the fun factor to max while diminishing it's story and themes .
The Monsterverse while touching on elements such as extraterrestrial life and the Hollow Earth theory, keep it a lot more uniform and science-based. It's Pseudo-realism with touches of the fantastical (within the realm of believability and homaging what's come before)
Re: Gamera in the Monsterverse
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:22 pm
Vakanai wrote: Oh yeah, okay then I get that. Although I wouldn't mind a comedy film or two set in the Monsterverse just for variety.
Nahh..... How would you even make a comedy when there's giant monsters and humans in the same screen? Would the death of thousands of humans be played for laughs?Re: Gamera in the Monsterverse
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:25 pm
That's messed up...Hokmuto wrote: Would the death of thousands of humans be played for laughs?
Re: Gamera in the Monsterverse
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 4:33 pm
Exactly, I just can't see it. At most if they include Baragon, he could be played off as a "cute" kaiju for laughs, while still being able to look vicious, but that's Mothra's job.Hokmuto wrote:Vakanai wrote: Oh yeah, okay then I get that. Although I wouldn't mind a comedy film or two set in the Monsterverse just for variety.
Re: Gamera in the Monsterverse
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 6:43 pm
Obviously not, I meant more like along the lines of Guardians of the Galaxy or Ant-Man. MCU comedy, not Dracula Dead and Loving It with Godzilla. I think that kind of more comedic tone could work.Hokmuto wrote:Vakanai wrote: Oh yeah, okay then I get that. Although I wouldn't mind a comedy film or two set in the Monsterverse just for variety.
Re: Gamera in the Monsterverse
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 7:22 pm
Godzilla’s already the guardian of the Earth in this universe, adding Gamera would be redundant.
Re: Gamera in the Monsterverse
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:06 am
Gamera is Guardian of the Universe and would trump Godzilla anyway.Ben Shapiro wrote:Godzilla’s already the guardian of the Earth in this universe, adding Gamera would be redundant.
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Anyone see the suspect concept art?
https://www.godzilla-movies.com/news/mo ... e-art-book
This plus this.
https://bloody-disgusting.com/interview ... -spoilers/
Re: Gamera in the Monsterverse
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:40 am
one, how do they know it's Kumonga and not Scylla?miguelnuva wrote:Gamera is Guardian of the Universe and would trump Godzilla anyway.Ben Shapiro wrote:Godzilla’s already the guardian of the Earth in this universe, adding Gamera would be redundant.
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Anyone see the suspect concept art?
https://www.godzilla-movies.com/news/mo ... e-art-book
This plus this.
https://bloody-disgusting.com/interview ... -spoilers/
two, while i do agree that the other two are certainly Gigan and Gamera, it's probably just easter eggs and nothing more.
Re: Gamera in the Monsterverse
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:06 am
I'd bet the house they're Easter eggs but had Kotm blown up at the box office I do wonder if Gamera was on radar.tyrantgoji wrote:one, how do they know it's Kumonga and not Scylla?miguelnuva wrote:Gamera is Guardian of the Universe and would trump Godzilla anyway.Ben Shapiro wrote:Godzilla’s already the guardian of the Earth in this universe, adding Gamera would be redundant.
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Anyone see the suspect concept art?
https://www.godzilla-movies.com/news/mo ... e-art-book
This plus this.
https://bloody-disgusting.com/interview ... -spoilers/
two, while i do agree that the other two are certainly Gigan and Gamera, it's probably just easter eggs and nothing more.
Re: Gamera in the Monsterverse
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 3:49 am
What a shame! If people didn't embrace a Godzilla sequel with Godzilla, Ghidorah, Mothra and Rodan, there's no way Gamera is getting made. What could have been. 
Re: Gamera in the Monsterverse
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:13 am
I feel like they drew Gigan and Gamera just for the “woah” factor. Doubt they ever actually considered them for the film.
Re: Gamera in the Monsterverse
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:24 am
oh I hope this is legit... beautiful indeed.miguelnuva wrote:Gamera is Guardian of the Universe and would trump Godzilla anyway.Ben Shapiro wrote:Godzilla’s already the guardian of the Earth in this universe, adding Gamera would be redundant.
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Anyone see the suspect concept art?
https://www.godzilla-movies.com/news/mo ... e-art-book
This plus this.
https://bloody-disgusting.com/interview ... -spoilers/
Re: Gamera in the Monsterverse
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:58 am
Again, that’s just how Concept art is. Just like the Pacific Rim monsters, they’re just placeholders. (Or for fun by the concept artists.) In Avengers Endgame, all the superheroes are just white mannequins in the key frames/concept art.
Legendary doesn’t have the rights to these monsters and they weren’t considered for the film.
Legendary doesn’t have the rights to these monsters and they weren’t considered for the film.
Re: Gamera in the Monsterverse
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:27 pm
Seems to be more talk of Gamera on this forum lately. Anyone still hopeful Gamera could get a MonsterVerse movie after Godzilla vs Kong?
Re: Gamera in the Monsterverse
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 2:37 pm
After what happened with Kotm I think we need Godzilla vs Kong to be decent(700m+) and at least one more film after that to do 600m+.Vakanai wrote:Seems to be more talk of Gamera on this forum lately. Anyone still hopeful Gamera could get a MonsterVerse movie after Godzilla vs Kong?
Had Kotm done the 700m-800m like I thought it would with the way the trailer was getting buzz Inwould have said possible especially after Dougherty mentioned Gamera.