Re: Will King of the Monsters be the best Godzilla yet?
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:26 pm
Mr_Goji_and_Watch wrote:It has merit when looked under a critical eye.
Ah, I see.
It's an objectively well made film that achieves what it set out to do really.
"Objectively"? Fascinating that you have insight into what is aesthetically objective - do share.
Unless you mean to say a movie "that achieves what it sets out to do" is all it takes for something to be "objectively well made" - in which case, again, I've got some stuff to show you.
One Criterion Collection release done back in the 90's doesn't define the label decades after the fact.
No, but the fact it includes crappy movies does indicate that being in the Criterion Collection isn't a clear indicator of a film's artistic value.
The Ishiro Honda biography by Ryfle and Godziszewski, and A Critical History and Filmography of Toho’s Godzilla Series by Kalat
What does the biography say regarding critical merit of Mothra v Godzilla?
I'll look into Kalat. Never heard of the book nor the author, but I'll be glad to see what they say about Mothra v Godzilla. Thanks.
He ends off saying "this is a bad movie" that one would watch "not because of it's artistic stature." It's pretty evident that he doesn't respect it beyond recognizing obvious visual parallels with the atomic bombings. You can recognize what you consider to be cheesy elements while still acknowledging that it's a potently charged movie that's crafted extremely well for the most part.
You can, but you don't need to. And to be frank, the visual parallels to the atomic bombings and related metaphors are the only thing that gives the movie any authentic artistic value. I disagree with Ebert that one wouldn't watch it for that, because I do and so have many others, but he defended his position pretty well. For him, the art didn't outweigh the cheese. For me, it absolutely does. Gojira is unique in that there's even any debate about artistic value, as opposed to most of the other Godzilla films, which someone like Ebert wouldn't have even bothered to argue have insufficient artistic merit since they don't have any.