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Your fears for Godzilla King of the Monsters

Postby LegendZilla » Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:27 pm

Hey there,

I know I already have a thread like this for the Monsterverse as a whole, but with this specific movie getting closer and closer, I just thought it would would be a more logical option to set up a another thread, this time only for this one. Theoretically speaking in the worst case scenario, how could Godzilla King of the Monsters realistically turn out to be one of the worst Godzilla-related experiences imaginable? My guesses are :

1. They will forcibly grind in the environmental message like how they did in Godzilla Vs Mothra '92.
2. Ghidorah will be defeated in a highly anti-climactic manner.
3.
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If the Oxygen Destroyer really is in the movie, it would be used to REVIVE Godzilla.

4. Millie Bobby Brown's character will just come across as a later day version of the child-characters that were ubiquitous in Showa era of Kaiju films (most notably the ones from Gamera).
5. We might be in for the polar opposite of Godzilla lacking screen time as in the 2014 film and this time perhaps Godzilla will get too much screen time.
6.
Spoiler:
I can’t help but feel worried as to how they will handle the purported bowing sequence at the end of the film. It would add a degree of Showa-sequence campiness in which the monsters express overly human-like traits.


Forgive my pessimism, but can any of you please express what concerns you have regarding the overall quality of the upcoming film based on what we know from leaks?
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Re: Your fears for Godzilla King of the Monsters

Postby GojiDog » Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:57 pm

My biggest concern is that they would overreact to the criticism that Godzilla wasn't in the movie enough in 2014 and basically turn this one into a Transformers movie: Loud, obnoxious, and impossible to decipher.

The trailer definitely made it look like we would be getting MORE monster action, but also kind of lessened my fears a bit in that the monsters would be handled with the right level of majesty.
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Re: Your fears for Godzilla King of the Monsters

Postby KillCrites » Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:01 pm

I don't have any worries or fears, I adore Mike Dougherty's previous films and I have complete faith in him as a writer and director to make this movie truly amazing.
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Re: Your fears for Godzilla King of the Monsters

Postby XxComablack1937xX » Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:15 pm

I have NO concerns, Micheal D has made to very enjoyable films, loves to show off his monsters, has shown his love for all Godzilla films. His character are from either good to tolerable at the least i'm HOPING he will give me the the American Godzilla movie i wanted from Gareth Edward's but failed to deliver

In regard's to your concerns

#1. I believe there just terrorist's, which is why they kidnapped MBB and her mother to use the sonar to bring the monsters to destroy cities. Less about environmental message

#2. Ghidorah will not liking go down easy, i personally believe Godzilla will get his ass handed to him first time. Second time he will be starting to lose but either someone will give there life or a monster will distract Ghidorah long enough for Godzilla to finish him. Shea O Jackson said the fight is insane ill trust it.

#3.
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I don't even think the oxygen destroyer will be in the film, if so it wont revive Godzilla.. It was damn near kill him with him barely able to retreat. An Ken Watanabe will end up giving his life either setting off a nuke or allowing Godzilla to feed off a nuclear sub destroying it at the bottom of the sea . Clips we see in the trailer rising to the surface is him revived as a ''call to arms'' and ready for battle again.


#4. Millie Bobby Brown will probably be like Mothra's twin fairies and able to communicate with her... But WONT be like MIKI from the entire 90's series to communicate with all monsters, That could get a bit annoying personally.

#5. Honestly, the more screen time the better just as long as it used well. During fights, emotional moments, like Godzilla near death or his brief moment with Ford when he was crushed by the building after killing the male MUTO

#6.
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It could be done a s a form of submission, Lion's do it, Crocodile's do it, Bird's do it... This isn't the lion king i'm sure they wont go full on B movie cheesy with it.
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Re: Your fears for Godzilla King of the Monsters

Postby LegendZilla » Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:24 pm

^That raises another question regarding #1 That being why the hell does MBB keep carrying what appears to be a device that draws the kaiju near her?

As for #2 It could be that the leaker that began the rumor just wrote things in a rush but I can no way in hell see how
Spoiler:
Godzilla will purportedly defeat Ghidorah by eating him whole all of the sudden.
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Re: Your fears for Godzilla King of the Monsters

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:42 pm

XxComablack1937xX wrote:snip


Dude, spoilers in the spoiler tags please.

On topic...

Well, I already expressed my distaste about the idea of a wing-walking Ghidorah.

*Leak spoilers below*
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I also hate some of the stuff in the leaks: namely Serizawa setting off weapons of mass destruction willy nilly, the Lion King bowing scene, Godzilla swallowing Ghidorah whole like Orga, the female lead being referred to as "The B i t c h" (TK censors, you're not helping) by the other characters, Rodan being Ghidorah's evil sidekick like Gigan, the random-ass Oxygen Destroyer that comes out of nowhere...

And I'm praying that at least half of these things aren't true. Preferably all of them aren't true, if that's not too much to ask.
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Re: Your fears for Godzilla King of the Monsters

Postby Hokmuto » Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:46 pm

LegendZilla wrote:^That raises another question regarding #1 That being why the hell does MBB keep carrying what appears to be a device that draws the kaiju near her?

As for #2 It could be that the leaker that began the rumor just wrote things in a rush but I can no way in hell see how
Spoiler:
Godzilla will purportedly defeat Ghidorah by eating him whole all of the sudden.

Spoiler:
If you read the spoilers thread, you would know that the leaker meant something else entirely and just worded it incorrectly.
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Re: Your fears for Godzilla King of the Monsters

Postby LegendZilla » Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:09 pm

Hokmuto wrote:
LegendZilla wrote:^That raises another question regarding #1 That being why the hell does MBB keep carrying what appears to be a device that draws the kaiju near her?

As for #2 It could be that the leaker that began the rumor just wrote things in a rush but I can no way in hell see how
Spoiler:
Godzilla will purportedly defeat Ghidorah by eating him whole all of the sudden.

Spoiler:
If you read the spoilers thread, you would know that the leaker meant something else entirely and just worded it incorrectly.


You directly told me in that thread how it actually will happen right?
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Re: Your fears for Godzilla King of the Monsters

Postby Moogabunga » Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:24 pm

Kaiju-King42 wrote:*Leak spoilers below*
Spoiler:
I also hate some of the stuff in the leaks: namely Serizawa setting off weapons of mass destruction willy nilly, the Lion King bowing scene, Godzilla swallowing Ghidorah whole like Orga, the female lead being referred to as "The B i t c h" (TK censors, you're not helping) by the other characters, Rodan being Ghidorah's evil sidekick like Gigan, the random-ass Oxygen Destroyer that comes out of nowhere...

And I'm praying that at least half of these things aren't true. Preferably all of them aren't true, if that's not too much to ask.

Spoiler:
1) Serizawa setting off the nuke won't be taken lightly. I'm sure it will be an incredibly tough decision. Heck, someone who saw a test screening a while ago (who isn't really a Godzilla fan) said that Serizawa gets one of the best scenes in cinema history, and I'm pretty sure that scene has to do with detonating the nuke.

2) The bowing scene won't be as cheesy as you're imagining. It'll be freakin' awesome

3) Godzilla doesn't swallow Ghidorah whole. He melts him away with a nuclear pulse (or pulses) and eats one his heads

4) LOL! The characters don't refer to Emma Russell as "The B*tch". That was solely the writing of the guy who wrote that leak

5) Meh. Rodan is loyal to whoever the Alpha titan is. For the majority of the film, that is Ghidorah. But at the end, he bows and acknowledges Godzilla as King

6) The Oxygen Destroyer isn't really random in terms of the film's world. It's been 5 years since the events of 2014 - no doubt people were working on weapons to kill the monsters
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Re: Your fears for Godzilla King of the Monsters

Postby Dr. Professor » Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:34 pm

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I genuinely can't stand the idea of Serizawa setting off a nuke to revive Godzilla, which by extension would be setting of a nuke to save the world. This goes against the message of the first film, as well as a good chunk of other Godzilla films, including Godzilla 2014. Not to mention in G14 Dr. Serizawa was the one to give that message. He was vehemently against using nuclear weapons. That's really what I'm most afraid of.
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Re: Your fears for Godzilla King of the Monsters

Postby Hokmuto » Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:47 pm

LegendZilla wrote:
Hokmuto wrote:
LegendZilla wrote:^That raises another question regarding #1 That being why the hell does MBB keep carrying what appears to be a device that draws the kaiju near her?

As for #2 It could be that the leaker that began the rumor just wrote things in a rush but I can no way in hell see how
Spoiler:
Godzilla will purportedly defeat Ghidorah by eating him whole all of the sudden.

Spoiler:
If you read the spoilers thread, you would know that the leaker meant something else entirely and just worded it incorrectly.


You directly told me in that thread how it actually will happen right?

Sarcasm much? That spoiler thread clarified what he meant. Just saying since I do see you in the spoiler thread.
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Re: Your fears for Godzilla King of the Monsters

Postby LegendZilla » Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:48 pm

Dr. Professor wrote:
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I genuinely can't stand the idea of Serizawa setting off a nuke to revive Godzilla, which by extension would be setting of a nuke to save the world. This goes against the message of the first film, as well as a good chunk of other Godzilla films, including Godzilla 2014. Not to mention in G14 Dr. Serizawa was the one to give that message. He was vehemently against using nuclear weapons. That's really what I'm most afraid of.


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Re: Your fears for Godzilla King of the Monsters

Postby Dr. Professor » Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:56 pm

LegendZilla wrote:
Dr. Professor wrote:
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I genuinely can't stand the idea of Serizawa setting off a nuke to revive Godzilla, which by extension would be setting of a nuke to save the world. This goes against the message of the first film, as well as a good chunk of other Godzilla films, including Godzilla 2014. Not to mention in G14 Dr. Serizawa was the one to give that message. He was vehemently against using nuclear weapons. That's really what I'm most afraid of.


Don't act like he's doing it like he wants to.

I'm sure he won't be like "skreeonk YEAH LET'S DO IT", but it still just feels wrong to me.
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It also seems hard to carry an environmental message when your characters have to set off a nuclear bomb to save the world.
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Re: Your fears for Godzilla King of the Monsters

Postby LegendZilla » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:00 pm

Dr. Professor wrote:
LegendZilla wrote:
Dr. Professor wrote:
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I genuinely can't stand the idea of Serizawa setting off a nuke to revive Godzilla, which by extension would be setting of a nuke to save the world. This goes against the message of the first film, as well as a good chunk of other Godzilla films, including Godzilla 2014. Not to mention in G14 Dr. Serizawa was the one to give that message. He was vehemently against using nuclear weapons. That's really what I'm most afraid of.


Don't act like he's doing it like he wants to.

I'm sure he won't be like "skreeonk YEAH LET'S DO IT", but it still just feels wrong to me.
Spoiler:
It also seems hard to carry an environmental message when your characters have to set off a nuclear bomb to save the world.


It won't be a big deal if you have a giant creature who can absorb all of the radiation.
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Re: Your fears for Godzilla King of the Monsters

Postby Dr. Professor » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:18 pm

LegendZilla wrote:
Dr. Professor wrote:
LegendZilla wrote:
Don't act like he's doing it like he wants to.

I'm sure he won't be like "skreeonk YEAH LET'S DO IT", but it still just feels wrong to me.
Spoiler:
It also seems hard to carry an environmental message when your characters have to set off a nuclear bomb to save the world.


It Won't be a big deal if you have a giant creature who can absorb all of the radiation.

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That doesn't matter though. Ultimately the film would still run the risk of sending out a "Hey, nuke's can be good sometimes!" message, whether that's intentional or not.
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Re: Your fears for Godzilla King of the Monsters

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Dr. Professor wrote:
LegendZilla wrote:
Dr. Professor wrote:I'm sure he won't be like "skreeonk YEAH LET'S DO IT", but it still just feels wrong to me.
Spoiler:
It also seems hard to carry an environmental message when your characters have to set off a nuclear bomb to save the world.


It Won't be a big deal if you have a giant creature who can absorb all of the radiation.

Spoiler:
That doesn't matter though. Ultimately the film would still run the risk of sending out a "Hey, nuke's can be good sometimes!" message, whether that's intentional or not.

Spoiler:
Godzilla is going to need more than that nuke to save the day ;) I understand your point though
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Re: Your fears for Godzilla King of the Monsters

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Dr. Professor wrote:
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I genuinely can't stand the idea of Serizawa setting off a nuke to revive Godzilla, which by extension would be setting of a nuke to save the world. This goes against the message of the first film, as well as a good chunk of other Godzilla films, including Godzilla 2014. Not to mention in G14 Dr. Serizawa was the one to give that message. He was vehemently against using nuclear weapons. That's really what I'm most afraid of.

Spoiler:
I absolutely agree. I just hope it isn't in the film. I mean having a Serizawa and nukes involved doesn't make it a nice callback to the original.



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Re: Your fears for Godzilla King of the Monsters

Postby Mr_Goji_and_Watch » Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:39 am

The trailer was pretty kino but it could always end up being a popcorn flick that only gets by with its visuals.

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Then again that's what the last two Monsterverse flicks were like, as well as like half of the Godzilla series :)
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Re: Your fears for Godzilla King of the Monsters

Postby Titanoterror98 » Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:59 am

I think you guys are worrying too much. I mean, when was the last time a leaked script 100% accurate? Seriously, I don't want to rag on you guys, but just remember the last script leak--or better yet, the Iron Man 3 - 4Chan incident.

That said, the only real fear I have is that no matter how good or bad this movie is, it'll get ignored by the masses for whatever blockbusters Disney's throwing at us by that time, thus depriving Godzilla and company of the box office love they deserve.
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Re: Your fears for Godzilla King of the Monsters

Postby Mr_Goji_and_Watch » Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:02 am

I wouldn't worry about the box office. The trailer was pretty well received and if it has enough monster action, people will see it.
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