The Godzilla: King of the Monsters Box Office Thread - Predictions, Tracking, etc

[Stump Feet]

Those are definitely cool too and a huge plus but I love hearing how about how a movie was made, and what choices went into making it.

[Cookson]

So it looks like the final verdict on KotM's box office is "successful, but disappointing", right? Using the whole "doubled production budget worldwide equals ultimately breaking even" rule of thumb, it's looking at a ~12.5% return on investment.

Don’t know if we should even use successful honestly. Disappointing is the one and only word if use. When we have to start looking at merchandise and home video sales to make profit on a single film... it’s disappointing

[Gothicserpent]

So it looks like the final verdict on KotM's box office is "successful, but disappointing", right? Using the whole "doubled production budget worldwide equals ultimately breaking even" rule of thumb, it's looking at a ~12.5% return on investment.

Sadly its a bomb. No real way to put it other then that.

Audiences would rather watch Disney junk then something new, creative, and exciting.

[_JNavs_]

I thought we already established it wasn't a bomb.

[johnboy3434]

Don’t know if we should even use successful honestly. Disappointing is the one and only word if use. When we have to start looking at merchandise and home video sales to make profit on a single film... it’s disappointing

It's not rare at all for a big-budget film to have to make a profit off of home video sales. That's actually the rule, rather than the exception.

Sadly its a bomb. No real way to put it other then that.

On what do you base that assessment? It's on track to make a profit. Not a huge profit, granted, but a profit. That pretty much precludes it from being a "bomb", which implies that it not only lost money but lost a lot of it.

[Gothicserpent]

Don’t know if we should even use successful honestly. Disappointing is the one and only word if use. When we have to start looking at merchandise and home video sales to make profit on a single film... it’s disappointing

It's not rare at all for a big-budget film to have to make a profit off of home video sales. That's actually the rule, rather than the exception.

Sadly its a bomb. No real way to put it other then that.

On what do you base that assessment? It's on track to make a profit. Not a huge profit, granted, but a profit. That pretty much precludes it from being a "bomb", which implies that it not only lost money but lost a lot of it.

It needed $425 mil to start making a profit.

[_JNavs_]

Don’t know if we should even use successful honestly. Disappointing is the one and only word if use. When we have to start looking at merchandise and home video sales to make profit on a single film... it’s disappointing

It's not rare at all for a big-budget film to have to make a profit off of home video sales. That's actually the rule, rather than the exception.

Sadly its a bomb. No real way to put it other then that.

On what do you base that assessment? It's on track to make a profit. Not a huge profit, granted, but a profit. That pretty much precludes it from being a "bomb", which implies that it not only lost money but lost a lot of it.

It needed $425 mil to start making a profit.

Says who?

[Godzilla21]

I've educated Gothicserpant more times than I can count on why this movie isn't a bomb but never pays attention. Says the same things over and over.

But here we go again.

I consider a bomb something like Pluto Nash. That movie made $7 million on a $100 million budget.

KOTM is at $385 million off a $170 million budget.

I put it in the "disappointment" category.

[Mr_Goji_and_Watch]

Holy semantics....

[HannibalBarca]

"Bomb" is an inherently subjective term. If you restrict "bomb" to the likes of Pluto Nash and Heaven's Gate, then no, KOTM is not a "bomb." I also don't think calling *every* movie that makes less than its budget a "bomb" is necessarily appropriate either. Given the inherent fuzziness in figuring out who gets what % of the cut from KOTM's gross in various territories, it's difficult to say whether KOTM has (so far) missed making back its budget by a little or a lot.

This is a long-winded way of saying that I'm not sure I would call it a "bomb", personally, but I can't exactly disprove anyone who chooses to do so.

[Godzilla21]

I compiled a list of films considered "bombs" around KOTMs budget. There are even bigger bombs with films over $200 million budget but I kept things closer to $170 million. First number is budget, second is worldwide box office.

47 Ronin $175,000,000 - $151,800,000

Alice Through the Looking Glass $170,000,000-$299,500,000

Blade Runner 2049 $185,000,000- $259,100,000

Evan Almighty $175,000,000- $173,400,000

Good Dinosaur $175,000,000- $332,200,000

Green Lantern $200,000,000- $219,900,000

Jack the Giant Slayer $185,000,000- $197,700,000

Jupiter Ascending $175,000,000-$184,000,000

King Arthur $175,000,000-$148,700,000

KOTM $170,000,000- $385,000,000

These films are considered bombs and as you can see KOTM outperformed them all. Closest is Good Dinosaur and thats still $50 million less. KOTM was not a "bomb".

[Mr_Goji_and_Watch]

Flopzilla: King of the Bombsters

[Maritonic]

Flopzilla: King of the Bombsters

I'm tired of telling you to stop trolling. Enjoy the warning.

[Smuggers]

Flopzilla: King of the Bombsters

I'm tired of telling you to stop trolling. Enjoy the warning.

He's just referencing a post I made about him while he was gone.

and then he'd call it Flopzilla: King of the Bombsters

[Godzilla21]

Flopzilla: King of the Bombsters

I'm tired of telling you to stop trolling. Enjoy the warning.

He's just referencing a post I made about him while he was gone.

and then he'd call it Flopzilla: King of the Bombsters

Thats kind of an obscure thing to remember. Plus he has a history of trollish behavior in this thread.

Anyway, I've noticed that they don't report KOTMs numbers on Sunday like they do other films the last few weeks on BOM. It usually doesn't come in till Monday for some reason

[Stump Feet]

Flopzilla: King of the Bombsters

I'm tired of telling you to stop trolling. Enjoy the warning.

I think it was less trolling and more of a joke, I hope you didn’t just slap him with his perma ban…

[miguelnuva]

Flopzilla: King of the Bombsters

I'm tired of telling you to stop trolling. Enjoy the warning.

I think it was less trolling and more of a joke, I hope you didn’t just slap him with his perma ban…

If someone trolls a topic 40 out of 50 times guess what a Mod will think of the other 10 posts are.

[ultrazilla]

384m at BOM now, so yeah 385 it is. Plus the home movies and we'll literally be around 425m lol.

[The Octopus]

Wow. I can't believe this movie did worse than Rampage and Pacific Rim.

[ultrazilla]

Rampage and PR did not have that BO blackhole known as Endgame at their releases.