Well, I dunno... Personally, I HATE The Empire Strikes Back for being such an incredible movie that Return of the Jedi couldn't quite live up to it. That's why I never, ever re-watch The Empire Strikes Back; it's just too offensively good.Ryguy wrote:Wouldn't that, I dunno, be a good thing?PitchBlackProgress wrote:Godzilla: KoTM will set the bar so high, Godzilla vs. Kong won't be able to compare.
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I've honestly always been partial to Jedi. The Jabba's Palace/Dune Sea sequence is maybe my favorite film sequence of all time!
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I firmly believe that all the stuff that happens on the Death Star in Jedi is the best Star Wars content. The score, visuals, the dynamic between Vader, the Emperor, and Luke. It's all so good.
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Basically the only things I'd maybe put above it are the carbon freezing sequence and the Luke/Vader duel in Empire, but that's a close enough call to be a purely academic distinction.GalacticPetey wrote:I firmly believe that all the stuff that happens on the Death Star in Jedi is the best Star Wars content. The score, visuals, the dynamic between Vader, the Emperor, and Luke. It's all so good.
So, even if, somehow, Mike Dougherty is able to give us a Godzilla movie on the same level as The Empire Strikes Back (he won't be able to), don't worry, there's still a chance that Adam Wingard could make a follow-up with sequences that would inspire the same kind of passion as the best scenes in Return of the Jedi (but that's not gonna happen, either).
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Of course not and I wouldn't expect it to. Audiences are so jaded and seen so much its almost impossible to capture the same level of cinematic magic that they had back then. Not until something new comes to completely revolutionize filmmaking like what Lucas did with Star Wars.
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-Them updating the Godzilla design to something ugly like Shin
-Them nerfing Ghidorah
-Them killing off Kong or G in GvK.
-Them killing off Mothra or Rodan in G2.
-Them pulling the same stunt in G14 with only showing glimpses of the monster. Go all out and take from Skull Island. Kong was front and center.
-Them nerfing Ghidorah
-Them killing off Kong or G in GvK.
-Them killing off Mothra or Rodan in G2.
-Them pulling the same stunt in G14 with only showing glimpses of the monster. Go all out and take from Skull Island. Kong was front and center.
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Here's something that just came to my mind : At some point down the road they'll start to cater to the SJW crowd just like Star Wars did with the Last Jedi.
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So, you mean, they might acknowledge that women and minorities can do things that propel a narrative???!!!LegendZilla wrote:Here's something that just came to my mind : At some point down the road they'll start to cater to the SJW crowd just like Star Wars did with the Last Jedi.
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It's all a matter of how its executed.eabaker wrote:So, you mean, they might acknowledge that women and minorities can do things that propel a narrative???!!!LegendZilla wrote:Here's something that just came to my mind : At some point down the road they'll start to cater to the SJW crowd just like Star Wars did with the Last Jedi.
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Elaborate.LegendZilla wrote:Here's something that just came to my mind : At some point down the road they'll start to cater to the SJW crowd just like Star Wars did with the Last Jedi.
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KillCrites wrote:Elaborate.LegendZilla wrote:Here's something that just came to my mind : At some point down the road they'll start to cater to the SJW crowd just like Star Wars did with the Last Jedi.
Spoiler:
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God what an empowering momentAnonziller wrote:KillCrites wrote:Elaborate.LegendZilla wrote:Here's something that just came to my mind : At some point down the road they'll start to cater to the SJW crowd just like Star Wars did with the Last Jedi.Spoiler:
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What a crime it would be if the film had multiple female and poc cast members!eabaker wrote:So, you mean, they might acknowledge that women and minorities can do things that propel a narrative???!!!LegendZilla wrote:Here's something that just came to my mind : At some point down the road they'll start to cater to the SJW crowd just like Star Wars did with the Last Jedi.
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^I have nothing against an empowered female characters, but if it came at the expence of making males look like inept morons and/or total assholes that’s when the trouble starts.
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I would normally agree.LegendZilla wrote:^I have nothing against an empowered female characters, but if it came at the expence of making males look like inept morons and/or total assholes that’s when the trouble starts.
But movie isn't The Last Jedi. Poe, Holdo, Finn, Rose, Luke, and Rey all fuck up horribly at one point or another. It doesn't elevate one gender over the other.
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I hope Godzilla vs Kong gets pushed back, if that happens, that’d loosen up some fears.
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I worry like others have said that GKotM will be so good and set the bar that GvK simply cannot live up to it. This is my op ion only but it is like TDK and TDKR for me. I think BB was good, TDK was a masterpiece and then I simply abhorred TDKR. I found the third installment horrific. Again. Just my opinion. But that worries me for Goji.
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I still don't get this. Are you saying you wish TDK hadn't been so good, because you might have liked TDKR better if it hadn't been such a juxtaposition to its superior predecessor?zilla92 wrote:I worry like others have said that GKotM will be so good and set the bar that GvK simply cannot live up to it. This is my op ion only but it is like TDK and TDKR for me. I think BB was good, TDK was a masterpiece and then I simply abhorred TDKR. I found the third installment horrific. Again. Just my opinion. But that worries me for Goji.
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eabaker wrote:I still don't get this. Are you saying you wish TDK hadn't been so good, because you might have liked TDKR better if it hadn't been such a juxtaposition to its superior predecessor?zilla92 wrote:I worry like others have said that GKotM will be so good and set the bar that GvK simply cannot live up to it. This is my op ion only but it is like TDK and TDKR for me. I think BB was good, TDK was a masterpiece and then I simply abhorred TDKR. I found the third installment horrific. Again. Just my opinion. But that worries me for Goji.
No. Not at all. Just that the second Nolan Batman installment was so good the third never had a chance to live up to it in my opinion and I disliked it. Just my opinion. I want GKotM to be epic and amazing. I want GvK to be amazing. I want them all to succeed and be great movies. My opinion is I don’t want Godzilla to suffer the same thing for me personally that I felt with Nolan’s Batman movies. That’s all.
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A fear, Rodan and Mothra (particularly Mothra) are treated as just canon fodder monsters for Godzilla to kill before Ghidorah shows up.
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