Rodan and Ghidorah's stationary looks

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I'm already braced to hate Rodan. Because I know for a fact that Legendary will make it "hip" and "modern". And not a monster like the original design.
I'm calling it right now. Rodan will look like a dragon.

One of the best things I like about the original design is how thick the wings were. It made him look like a monster, and not just a big bird.
The Heisei version changed that and I hated it with a passion.
The original head design was kinda goofy looking. But it had charm. Legendary will certainly stomp all over that part too.

Were' going to get a dragon style Rodan with thin wings and skinny arm bones. And a head full of spikes.*PUKE*
Because that's the kind of crap kids like.
I'll bet the farm on it.

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For Rodan, I would love something 90's Gyaos-like, so this way he can be able to stand upright:
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ScottA wrote:I'm already braced to hate Rodan. Because I know for a fact that Legendary will make it "hip" and "modern". And not a monster like the original design.
I'm calling it right now. Rodan will look like a dragon.

One of the best things I like about the original design is how thick the wings were. It made him look like a monster, and not just a big bird.
The Heisei version changed that and I hated it with a passion.
The original head design was kinda goofy looking. But it had charm. Legendary will certainly stomp all over that part too.

Were' going to get a dragon style Rodan with thin wings and skinny arm bones. And a head full of spikes.*PUKE*
Because that's the kind of crap kids like.
I'll bet the farm on it.
Just watched Skull Island again over the weekend, and I have to say Rodan seemed very pterosaur-ish to me in the cave paintings. You never know what they'll change, but depending on how much stock you put into end credits scene, I doubt they go for a dragon look.
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Holy hell, if Ghidorah looks like this, I'm going to need new pants
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^Lol. Point proven.
Designer: "Does this design have enough character?"
Director: "Nobody cares about character these days...just add more bumps and spikes and the kids will love it"
Designer: "Oh..OK that's really simple"
Director walks away yelling: "More Spikes!!!!"
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Yeeeeeeah, I hope that doesn't happen. I love the Legendary Godzilla design, because while he's been updated, he's still very much Godzilla. As long as the designs stay true to the core characteristics of the characters, I'm okay. I don't need Rodan turning into a dragon, or Ghidorah to be a three headed version of what we got in Game of Thrones, as much as I love those dragons.
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ScottA wrote:^Lol. Point proven.
Designer: "Does this design have enough character?"
Director: "Nobody cares about character these days...just add more bumps and spikes and the kids will love it"
Designer: "Oh..OK that's really simple"
Director walks away yelling: "More Spikes!!!!"
That definitely doesn't sound like something Dougherty would say, considering that he puts a lot of thought into how his monsters should look. (Unless you were just making a hypothetical scenario with "Average Blockbuster Director John Smith" or something.)

I know he's going to treat someone else's monsters (Toho's) with complete care and respect. Just like Edwards did.
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Ghidrah is waaaay too big there. Too brutish.

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Why yes of course, the ole "it's different so it sucks" mindset

So what if Ghidorah looks more rugged? Why is that such a bad thing? Legendary Godzilla barely looks like any of the Godzillas we have seen before, so why can't Ghidorah be altered? Think like what Thor: Ragnarok did with Surtur; he looks very much different from his comic counterpart(s), but he is still by-and-large Surtur. There's no reason why the same can't happen to Ghidorah. The thing in the art can certainly be likened to the Devil ("the Devil has three heads")

Just like with Surtur. People didn't bat an eye when Surtur was turned into a more skeletal-looking thing for Ragnarok
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Ryguy wrote:Why yes of course, the ole "it's different so it sucks" mindset

So what if Ghidorah looks more rugged? Why is that such a bad thing? Legendary Godzilla barely looks like any of the Godzillas we have seen before, so why can't Ghidorah be altered? Think like what Thor: Ragnarok did with Surtur; he looks very much different from his comic counterpart(s), but he is still by-and-large Surtur. There's no reason why the same can't happen to Ghidorah. The thing in the art can certainly be likened to the Devil ("the Devil has three heads")

Just like with Surtur. People didn't bat an eye when Surtur was turned into a more skeletal-looking thing for Ragnarok
Different is fine. I just disagree with the more brutish and chaotic approach. To me, ghidorah needs to be prestigious and awesome(not in the "wow cool" way). Even if his attitude doesn't fit, that sort of sleekness is just sort of characteristic of him.

Plus, the size difference would just be a feat-setter for godzilla. That's the case with ALL massive villians, really. Ghidorah should tower over G, but having his head be basically the size of godzilla's torso would make him less... suspenseful. If ghidorah can hold his own without being some massive, frizzy, spiky amalgamation of death, him beating the shit out of godzilla will have people on the edge of their seats wondering "Is he going to beat godzilla" rather than "How is godzilla going to beat him?"

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Showa Gyaos wrote:I know he's going to treat someone else's monsters (Toho's) with complete care and respect. Just like Edwards did.
That's probably going to give me nightmares tonight. :shock:


KingKaiju wrote:
I love the Legendary Godzilla design, because while he's been updated, he's still very much Godzilla

Ryguy wrote:
Legendary Godzilla barely looks like any of the Godzillas we have seen before

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SenseiTeriyakiV wrote:
Ryguy wrote:Why yes of course, the ole "it's different so it sucks" mindset

So what if Ghidorah looks more rugged? Why is that such a bad thing? Legendary Godzilla barely looks like any of the Godzillas we have seen before, so why can't Ghidorah be altered? Think like what Thor: Ragnarok did with Surtur; he looks very much different from his comic counterpart(s), but he is still by-and-large Surtur. There's no reason why the same can't happen to Ghidorah. The thing in the art can certainly be likened to the Devil ("the Devil has three heads")

Just like with Surtur. People didn't bat an eye when Surtur was turned into a more skeletal-looking thing for Ragnarok
Different is fine. I just disagree with the more brutish and chaotic approach. To me, ghidorah needs to be prestigious and awesome(not in the "wow cool" way). Even if his attitude doesn't fit, that sort of sleekness is just sort of characteristic of him.

Plus, the size difference would just be a feat-setter for godzilla. That's the case with ALL massive villians, really. Ghidorah should tower over G, but having his head be basically the size of godzilla's torso would make him less... suspenseful. If ghidorah can hold his own without being some massive, frizzy, spiky amalgamation of death, him beating the shit out of godzilla will have people on the edge of their seats wondering "Is he going to beat godzilla" rather than "How is godzilla going to beat him?"
Maybe Ghidorah's heads might be a tad too big, I agree, but what's so wrong with him looking intimidating? The MUTOs and Ramarak already looked to be inferior to their respective opponents, why not give us something a little different? It would make Godzilla look all the more powerful. A huge budget and the rights to Godzilla's arch-rival, why not take advantage of that and develop something truly epic?

But all factors considered, if Ghidorah looks anything like he did in that 4chan "leak" a few months back, we're fucked. He looked like the dragon from Mulan for fuck's sake
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ScottA wrote:
Showa Gyaos wrote:I know he's going to treat someone else's monsters (Toho's) with complete care and respect. Just like Edwards did.
That's probably going to give me nightmares tonight. :shock:


KingKaiju wrote:
I love the Legendary Godzilla design, because while he's been updated, he's still very much Godzilla

Ryguy wrote:
Legendary Godzilla barely looks like any of the Godzillas we have seen before

This thread belongs at the end of a rainbow. Because it's full of gold.
Well, yeah. To my point. He's a very different Godzilla, he's been updated, and yet he ratins all the physical characteristics that make him Godzilla. Just in the same way that he did when he was brought back in Godzilla 2000, just as he did in Shin Godzilla, which I would argue is an even bigger change up than the Legendary film.
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I'm not a huge fan of the G2000 changes. But When they created it. I'm pretty sure nobody said anything remotely as disrespectful as this.
Gareth Edwards: "I want to give him the snout of a bear, and the eye brows of an eagle".

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ScottA wrote:I'm not a huge fan of the G2000 changes. But When they created it. I'm pretty sure nobody said anything remotely as disrespectful as this.
Gareth Edwards: "I want to give him the snout of a bear, and the eye brows of an eagle".
That's funny, because that's exactly what I think of looking at "Anigoji"

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ScottA wrote:I'm not a huge fan of the G2000 changes. But When they created it. I'm pretty sure nobody said anything remotely as disrespectful as this.
Gareth Edwards: "I want to give him the snout of a bear, and the eye brows of an eagle".
I don't exactly see what's so "disrespectful" about that. He's just describing the design process behind his Godzilla. :eh:

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Yeah I don’t see how that is anyway disrespectful.
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Ryguy wrote:
SenseiTeriyakiV wrote:
Ryguy wrote:Why yes of course, the ole "it's different so it sucks" mindset

So what if Ghidorah looks more rugged? Why is that such a bad thing? Legendary Godzilla barely looks like any of the Godzillas we have seen before, so why can't Ghidorah be altered? Think like what Thor: Ragnarok did with Surtur; he looks very much different from his comic counterpart(s), but he is still by-and-large Surtur. There's no reason why the same can't happen to Ghidorah. The thing in the art can certainly be likened to the Devil ("the Devil has three heads")

Just like with Surtur. People didn't bat an eye when Surtur was turned into a more skeletal-looking thing for Ragnarok
Different is fine. I just disagree with the more brutish and chaotic approach. To me, ghidorah needs to be prestigious and awesome(not in the "wow cool" way). Even if his attitude doesn't fit, that sort of sleekness is just sort of characteristic of him.

Plus, the size difference would just be a feat-setter for godzilla. That's the case with ALL massive villians, really. Ghidorah should tower over G, but having his head be basically the size of godzilla's torso would make him less... suspenseful. If ghidorah can hold his own without being some massive, frizzy, spiky amalgamation of death, him beating the shit out of godzilla will have people on the edge of their seats wondering "Is he going to beat godzilla" rather than "How is godzilla going to beat him?"
Maybe Ghidorah's heads might be a tad too big, I agree, but what's so wrong with him looking intimidating? The MUTOs and Ramarak already looked to be inferior to their respective opponents, why not give us something a little different? It would make Godzilla look all the more powerful. A huge budget and the rights to Godzilla's arch-rival, why not take advantage of that and develop something truly epic?

But all factors considered, if Ghidorah looks anything like he did in that 4chan "leak" a few months back, we're fucked. He looked like the dragon from Mulan for fuck's sake
Intimidating is fine, spiky and hellish doesn't always translate into that. It's almost tryhard-ish, really, and definitely not necessary to make ghidorah look badass.

It's kind of like what they TRIED to do with keizer ghidorah. They made an attempt to make him more terrifying and intimidating, but ended up just making something so over the top it was ultimately hard to take seriously.

Tall, golden, and sleek would give that majestic yet imposing look characteristic of ghidorah.

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Gerdzerl wrote:
I don't exactly see what's so "disrespectful" about that. He's just describing the design process behind his Godzilla.

Tyrant28 wrote:
Yeah I don’t see how that is anyway disrespectful.

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