Godzilla : Awakening - Do you consider it canon or not?

[Godzillian]

I consider it a side Story that'll probably end up being retconned anyway

[KaijuX]

I consider the sort of "core" story to be canon--but not all the details are going to line up. If I had to go into specifics... <_< I expect a lot of elements to be retconned as the MonsterVerse expands.

[bugmolly]

Spoiler:

there is a scene in the begining where John goodmans character is talking about a navy ship that got attacked by a monster but was covered up (he also may have said he was on the ship and was the only survivor but i cant remeber it 100%) whitch reminded me of the ship that was attacked by the shinomura so i am considering it cannon

[Redem]

So, while I have to admit I was more in "awakening not canon" camp after KSI, I am much more on the side that it is

[Breakdown]

I think some parts are canon, namely Shinomura.

[miguelnuva]

Monarch was confirmed activate before 19545 now, looks like Borenstien made sure all three of his stories lined up.

[NSZ]

Slight K:SI spoilers maybe? I'unno, tagging just to be safe.

Spoiler:

If anything, Kong: Skull Island blasted this tie-in completely out of continuity, what with MONARCH being on life support at the start of the film due to a lack of funding from the govt., itself a result of MONARCH being unable to turn up any actual evidence of monsters other than Godzilla, which has resulted in them being viewed as crazy tinfoil hat wearing crackpots, and a complete waste of resources. Given that MONARCH literally had a MONSTER MUSEUM in Awakening, this would be highly unlikely if it was still in continuity.

[Redem]

Slight K:SI spoilers maybe? I'unno, tagging just to be safe.

Spoiler:

If anything, Kong: Skull Island blasted this tie-in completely out of continuity, what with MONARCH being on life support at the start of the film due to a lack of funding from the govt., itself a result of MONARCH being unable to turn up any actual evidence of monsters other than Godzilla, which has resulted in them being viewed as crazy tinfoil hat wearing crackpots, and a complete waste of resources. Given that MONARCH literally had a MONSTER MUSEUM in Awakening, this would be highly unlikely if it was still in continuity.

Heh I think I can give some explanation to that

Spoiler:

All the stuff in the museum is dead and human size, presumably those are just remains that Monarch been acquiring, if nothing more interesting came about for almost 20 years it make sense why their budget would get cut

Spoiler:

there is a scene in the begining where John goodmans character is talking about a navy ship that got attacked by a monster but was covered up (he also may have said he was on the ship and was the only survivor but i cant remeber it 100%) whitch reminded me of the ship that was attacked by the shinomura so i am considering it cannon

Spoiler:

Would be neat, but the guy name is Shaw, not Bill, it might be what was intended though

[LSD Jellyfish]

^^^If you have to go out of your way to make excuses for something to be in continuity then it's not cannon.

[miguelnuva]

^^^If you have to go out of your way to make excuses for something to be in continuity then it's not cannon.

Half the franchises in the world have that problem, Star Wars even ran into that problem.

[NSZ]

Star Wars even ran into that problem.

Considering what ended up happening with the old EU, I'm not entirely sure that using it as an example on how Awakening could still be canon is the best idea...

[Demon Lord Gira]

I'd have to say no to Awakening being canon, not just because of what NSZ brought up, but for the simple reason that Awakening is based on an early draft of G14. As a result, we have cases of inconsistencies between the two, such as Serizawa's age and the Blu-Ray specials for G14 outright contradicting G14 with the events leading up to the bomb "testings." It's about as canon as most novelizations for movies in that way, which is to say, not at all.

[miguelnuva]

Star Wars even ran into that problem.

Considering what ended up happening with the old EU, I'm not entirely sure that using it as an example on how Awakening could still be canon is the best idea...

Star Wars now still has that problem and has to make retcons to fix itself.

[G2000]

Spoiler:

there is a scene in the begining where John goodmans character is talking about a navy ship that got attacked by a monster but was covered up (he also may have said he was on the ship and was the only survivor but i cant remeber it 100%) whitch reminded me of the ship that was attacked by the shinomura so i am considering it cannon

Haven't read the book, but if the ship in question is the USS Larson or something similar, then most likely yes.

[godzilla1541]

Reviving this thread because I feel it’s relivant. No I would not consider the comic cannon. There are way to many inconsistency’s with it and all the stuff that has come after G 14 to really consider it part of the main monsterverse.

[Ivo-goji]

Inconsistencies that only exist in the readers' minds.

[Godzillian]

Inconsistencies that only exist in the readers' minds.

No, inconsistencies that create plot holes in when compared to the film.

[PitchBlackProgress]

Inconsistencies that only exist in the readers' minds.

Evidently, you haven’t read the comic in question.

You can do as many mental gymnastics as you want to make your head canon correct, but either way, there’s going to be major contradictions over many things, and if that’s the case, it should go without saying that Awakening is NOT canon.

[Ivo-goji]

I don't need mental gymnastics to overcome inconsistencies that no one addresses.

[PitchBlackProgress]

I don't need mental gymnastics to overcome inconsistencies that no one addresses.

How are there not inconsistencies? I’d love to hear you defending all these co called “inconsistencies” and explain to everyone here how they DO make sense in the timeline.

Don’t see this happening though, at least not in a way that makes sense...