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Re: 'Wishlists,' for the Legend-verse of Godzilla

Postby SonOfGorgo » Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:52 am

Mighty Joe Young, Rhedosaurus, and Them! FTW
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Postby UltramanGoji » Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:19 pm

We don't need Joe. We have Kong. There's your gorilla.

Rhedo? Maybe as a throwaway monster, but not a main character.

The Gi-Ants would be cool to see again, but I'd rather they avoid remaking the original.
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Postby SonOfGorgo » Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:43 pm

UltramanGoji wrote:We don't need Joe. We have Kong. There's your gorilla.

Rhedo? Maybe as a throwaway monster, but not a main character.

The Gi-Ants would be cool to see again, but I'd rather they avoid remaking the original.

It was moreorless a joke.
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Postby Mr. Yellow » Mon Oct 16, 2017 2:27 pm

Didn’t we wager THEM! ants are already on Skull Island?
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Postby RamshackleRanger » Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:12 pm

Mr. Yellow wrote:Didn’t we wager THEM! ants are already on Skull Island?

legit all we know is that there are ants. We have no idea if it's THEM.

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Postby Mr. Yellow » Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:44 am

If giant ants are seen, people are going to assume it’s THEM.
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Postby vibramrunner » Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:11 am

SenseiTeriyakiV wrote:
Mr. Yellow wrote:Didn’t we wager THEM! ants are already on Skull Island?

legit all we know is that there are ants. We have no idea if it's THEM.


The ants actually weren't in the script; it was an improvised line from John C. Reilly. It was obviously well received, though, since it made the film -- and there's no reason why they can't become canon.

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Postby Mr. Yellow » Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:23 am

That’s interesting, and awesome. One of the best lines of the movie.
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Postby vibramrunner » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:11 am

Absolutely. Reilly was the glue that held that movie together for me. He was great.

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Postby orga_000 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:22 pm

I hope that King Ghidorah's origin is shrouded in mystery. I like to hear fan theories and then like 5 years later we get the real answer.
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Postby GodzillaFan1990's » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:45 pm

orga_000 wrote:I hope that King Ghidorah's origin is shrouded in mystery. I like to hear fan theories and then like 5 years later we get the real answer.

At most I hope they at least imply he's from space, he's not King Ghidorah without being the space dragon we all grown to known and love unlike say GMK Ghidorah.
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Postby UltramanGoji » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:47 pm

The only origin I want from KG is that he's a space monster. I don't want any revisionist history ("HE WAS THE INSPIRATION FOR THE DEVIL!!!!!") or "HE WAS A PREHISTORIC THREE-HEADED PERMIASAURUS" or whatever.

Just give me my space menace.
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Postby GodzillaFan1990's » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:52 pm

Other then that yeah I want that too. No need for any backstory except maybe being responsible for a few historic events such as the Permian-Triassic Extinction hence Godzilla's vendetta towards him because as said mystery is good, that's why I like how they never had shown Krampus' face in the 2015 movie it leaves you wondering what he might look like underneath that mask. :)
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Postby Mr. Yellow » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:31 pm

I have a feeling KG's origin will stay unexplained. I don't think they're ready to introduce aliens into the MonsterVerse yet. I'M ready, but I don't think Legendary is.
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Postby GodzillaFan1990's » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:33 pm

Mr. Yellow wrote:I have a feeling KG's origin will stay unexplained. I don't think they're ready to introduce aliens into the MonsterVerse yet. I'M ready, but I don't think Legendary is.

Even then as I said, I'd be find with them just implying he's from space but doesn't have to explain outright that he is from it. ;)
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Postby Cybermat47 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:58 pm

As long as King Ghidorah isn't a creation of man like he was in GvKG, I'm good. Space is definitely the best origin, though.

And please, don't make him a mind control skreeonk again...
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Postby GodzillaFan1990's » Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:39 pm

Cybermat47 wrote:As long as King Ghidorah isn't a creation of man like he was in GvKG, I'm good. Space is definitely the best origin, though.

Actually if you get deep down into it that King Ghidorah was an carbon-based copy of the real one. The novelization of the movie reveals the Dorats were genetically engineered and created from samples of this King Ghidorah body found on Venus, on top of that there was going to be another King Ghidorah in Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah II where Godzilla would've fought an monster resembling the King Ghidorah he fought a year ago coming from space likely having been the real one the Futurians used DNA of from to create the Dorats.

Head-canon wise too that meteor that Mothra eventually went off into space to stop that's the real King Ghidorah heading for earth, in the continuing Heisei timeline, the real King Ghidorah kills Mothra and reaches earth becoming Godzilla Junior's first true foe.

Feel better now? ;)
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Postby UltramanGoji » Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:14 pm

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Cybermat47 wrote:As long as King Ghidorah isn't a creation of man like he was in GvKG, I'm good. Space is definitely the best origin, though.

Actually if you get deep down into it that King Ghidorah was an carbon-based copy of the real one. The novelization of the movie reveals the Dorats were genetically engineered and created from samples of this King Ghidorah body found on Venus, on top of that there was going to be another King Ghidorah in Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah II where Godzilla would've fought an monster resembling the King Ghidorah he fought a year ago coming from space likely having been the real one the Futurians used DNA of from to create the Dorats.


inb4 some smark goes "WASN'T IN THE FILM IT ISN'T CANON"
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Postby Cybermat47 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:18 pm

GodzillaFan1990's wrote:Head-canon wise too that meteor that Mothra eventually went off into space to stop that's the real King Ghidorah heading for earth, in the continuing Heisei timeline, the real King Ghidorah kills Mothra and reaches earth becoming Godzilla Junior's first true foe.

Feel better now? ;)



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Postby HeiseiGodzilla117 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:02 pm

UltramanGoji wrote:
inb4 some smark goes "WASN'T IN THE FILM IT ISN'T CANON"


"Smark" here. That's true, though. A film is not beholden to stories adapted from it. Supplementary material could help fill in details, but it is subject to change.


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