GODZILLA VS. KONG (2020) General Discussion Thread (No Leaks, Unofficial Photos/Vids, etc.)

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Re: RUMOR: Godzilla vs King Kong in developement/early talks

Postby Underworld54 » Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:08 am

Wait until Toho says "yeah you can make it, but we want Godzilla to squish Kong like a bug"
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Re: RUMOR: Godzilla vs King Kong in developement/early talks

Postby g2vd » Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:27 am

Another thing that is irritating me. is that the whole article and that of every other article is click bait every article is copy and paste of the Deadline article no article except for TohoKingdom's does anything different they don't do their own research they don't look into things and just boil down to "HEY GUYS DEADLINE SAID GVKK IS TOTALLY HAPPENING AND WE TRUST THEM COMPLETLY THIS IS AMAZING CLICK OUR ARTICLE NOW!!!!!!!!" seriously that is the whole thing there is no journalistic integrity, no attempt to report actual facts it's just click our article now because of this new internet rumor.
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Re: RUMOR: Godzilla vs King Kong in developement/early talks

Postby godzillalives88 » Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:27 am

I really don't see how this is anymore complicated than bringing in Ghodorah or Mothra. You just add a 0 next to Kong's height description in the screenplay.

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Re: RUMOR: Godzilla vs King Kong in developement/early talks

Postby Underworld54 » Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:35 am

godzillalives88 wrote:I really don't see how this is anymore complicated than bringing in Ghodorah or Mothra. You just add a 0 next to Kong's height description in the screenplay.

And just expect audiences to believe that?
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Re: RUMOR: Godzilla vs King Kong in developement/early talks

Postby godzillalives88 » Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:37 am

It's no more outlandlish than a space dragon. Plus, all the vulnerabilities Kong has Mothra has too, and people generally seem okay with letting her onboard.

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Re: RUMOR: Godzilla vs King Kong in developement/early talks

Postby Godzilla The King » Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:39 am

I don't find the idea any more absurd than Godzilla already is, if I can accept Godzilla I can sure as Hell accept King Kong at Godzilla's size. Really with the plethora of kaiju that are simply oversized animals, I can accept it.
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Re: RUMOR: Godzilla vs King Kong in developement/early talks

Postby Variola » Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:46 am

godzillalives88 wrote:Plus, all the vulnerabilities Kong has Mothra has too, and people generally seem okay with letting her onboard.


I dislike Mothra for the same reason personally. A giant moth against a nuke-proof dinosaur is just as lame as a giant gorilla if you ask me. But I know that's an unpopular opinion. I have a lot of those. XD
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Re: RUMOR: Godzilla vs King Kong in developement/early talks

Postby Underworld54 » Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:51 am

godzillalives88 wrote:It's no more outlandlish than a space dragon. Plus, all the vulnerabilities Kong has Mothra has too, and people generally seem okay with letting her onboard.

But the Godzilla kaiju have always been as big as modern day skyscrapers. King hasn't. The biggest thing that he has fought was a V-Rex.
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Re: RUMOR: Godzilla vs King Kong in developement/early talks

Postby g2vd » Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:54 am

Underworld54 wrote:
godzillalives88 wrote:It's no more outlandlish than a space dragon. Plus, all the vulnerabilities Kong has Mothra has too, and people generally seem okay with letting her onboard.

But the Godzilla kaiju have always been as big as modern day skyscrapers. King hasn't. The biggest thing that he has fought was a V-Rex.

That's a big V-Rex.
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Re: RUMOR: Godzilla vs King Kong in developement/early talks

Postby Underworld54 » Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:01 am

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godzillalives88 wrote:It's no more outlandlish than a space dragon. Plus, all the vulnerabilities Kong has Mothra has too, and people generally seem okay with letting her onboard.

But the Godzilla kaiju have always been as big as modern day skyscrapers. King hasn't. The biggest thing that he has fought was a V-Rex.

That's a big V-Rex.
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Re: RUMOR: Godzilla vs King Kong in developement/early talks

Postby g2vd » Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:21 am

I think Goro is biting his leg.
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Re: RUMOR: Godzilla vs King Kong in developement/early talks

Postby Underworld54 » Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:26 am

What movie is that though?
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Re: RUMOR: Godzilla vs King Kong in developement/early talks

Postby Jomei » Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:33 am

I dunno why people are so angry about this. Deadline might not be right, but they're not totally without some reputation, either. It's wise to take it with a grain of salt, but I don't know why THIS rumor--of all the unsubstantiated bullshit tons of sites and fans have run with in the past--is the one to absolutely devastate people's buttholes.

I'm skeptical, but Hell, it's a rumor about early talks. That doesn't mean a movie is definitely happening even if it is true.
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Re: RUMOR: Godzilla vs King Kong in developement/early talks

Postby g2vd » Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:34 am

Underworld54 wrote:What movie is that though?

King Kong Escapes.
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Re: RUMOR: Godzilla vs King Kong in developement/early talks

Postby Underworld54 » Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:37 am

So Toho Kong is canon with Universal Kong in your mind?
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Re: RUMOR: Godzilla vs King Kong in developement/early talks

Postby godzillalives88 » Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:39 am

Underworld54 wrote:
godzillalives88 wrote:It's no more outlandlish than a space dragon. Plus, all the vulnerabilities Kong has Mothra has too, and people generally seem okay with letting her onboard.

But the Godzilla kaiju have always been as big as modern day skyscrapers. King hasn't. The biggest thing that he has fought was a V-Rex.


True, but one of the problems I have with the objections is that people keep thinking of this in terms of Jackson's Kong (and understandably so, as it's the most recent version). Likewise, that's not the Kong Godzilla would be going up against.

That and we're also speculating on a potential sequel to (at least) two movies we haven't seen yet. For all we know, Skull Island and Godzilla 2 could perfectly establish a world where Godzilla and Kong could co-exist.
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Re: RUMOR: Godzilla vs King Kong in developement/early talks

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:40 am

Can I just bring up the time a few months ago when I thought this might happen and a ton of other members bashed me saying it was absolutely crazy and would never happen? Anyways I'm hyped as poop.
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Re: RUMOR: Godzilla vs King Kong in developement/early talks

Postby g2vd » Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:48 am

Underworld54 wrote:So Toho Kong is canon with Universal Kong in your mind?

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I love the idea of a GVKK movie, as I said on the last page I just don't think it can work with Skull Island's movie set from what we have seen but if it did than YES! that would be epic but also like I said on the last page it's fake I am 99.9% sure it's fake.


LSD Jellyfish wrote:Anyways I'm hyped as poop.

Don't be until confirmation otherwise you may not be very happy.
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Re: RUMOR: Godzilla vs King Kong in developement/early talks

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:50 am

Jomei wrote:I dunno why people are so angry about this. Deadline might not be right, but they're not totally without some reputation, either. It's wise to take it with a grain of salt, but I don't know why THIS rumor--of all the unsubstantiated bullshit tons of sites and fans have run with in the past--is the one to absolutely devastate people's buttholes.

I'm skeptical, but Hell, it's a rumor about early talks. That doesn't mean a movie is definitely happening even if it is true.

Two things:
While a lot of rumors are just rumors I remember how when Godzilla 2014 was in the early works there were a lot of rumors. So sometimes rumors pay off.

Second(and my point of why I thought it was inevitable to begin with): This movie would obviously make a poop ton of money. People would flock to see it. Money money money makes the studios want this as well.
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Re: RUMOR: Godzilla vs King Kong in developement/early talks

Postby Rody » Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:56 am

Keeping in mind that this is all speculation, here are my thoughts on the matter:

Since seeing the original Japanese cut, I've decided that what I enjoy most about King Kong vs. Godzilla is how silly it is - cleverly silly, but nonetheless silly. IIRC, this was the first giant monster film to prominently feature the "versus" set-up; yet this film also makes fun of that very set-up. The entire thing plays out in a tongue-in-cheek manner. I think about all the arguments about who "won" at the end of the film, and I think those people are missing the point. It was never about who's the stronger monster - it was all about making a grandiose excuse to just watch the two monsters fight. That's the joke!
There's also the issue of continuity. Toho's Kong had no connection to the original; it was just taken for granted that the character was the same. The Showa-era films in general were pretty loose with continuity overall, so it didn't really matter that technically, King Kong vs. Godzilla shares the same continuity with the grim & somber Gojira. KKvsG stands on its own just fine.

If we get a new King Kong versus Godzilla film, I'm worried that it would take itself too seriously. Undoubtedly it will share continuity with G2014, and it sounds possible that it might share continuity with Skull Island as well. Will one or both of the film series have to give way? My thoughts about a Godzilla/Pacific Rim crossover are the same: the two series seem to have completely different themes from each other. I don't think a new match-up would work unless it followed a similar tone/style to the original King Kong vs. Godzilla - and for that, I suspect the film would have to stand entirely on its own. If Legendary can pull that off, then hats off to them - but would the mainstream audiences accept that? Tight continuity seems to be what is expected from series now.


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