More original kaiju? Or enough with the MUTOs

miguelnuva · Post by **miguelnuva** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 7:08 pm

Godzelda wrote:I agree with miguelnuva, I want a new "super monster" in G3. The only new one we've gotten after '95 was Keizer Ghidorah, and he's just a crappy version of King Ghidorah.

I would argue Keizer wasn't a Super Monster as Godzilla was a Super Monster in FW and he owned Keizer.

Giga Kaiju · Post by **Giga Kaiju** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 7:52 pm

Well, it was more Super Monster vs. Super Monster, but Godzilla proved to be the more 'SUPER' in that case.

So, how about ~~Bagan...~~?

Well, sounds interesting, maybe we'll get one or not, but the idea seems cool.

Godzelda · Post by **Godzelda** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:47 pm

Wow, it seems Final Wars was so forgettable that some of us have forgotten that Keizer G totally curb-stomped Godzilla until the latter got a power boost. If anything, that makes him an super-super monster or some shit.

Although I said I wanted a new monster for G3, I'm somewhat conflicted about that due to the tempting idea of seeing more classic monsters portrayed by big-budget Hollywood effects... I mean, just imagine how badass Biollante or Destoroyah could look!

miguelnuva · Post by **miguelnuva** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:21 pm

Godzelda wrote:Wow, it seems Final Wars was so forgettable that some of us have forgotten that Keizer G totally curb-stomped Godzilla until the latter got a power boost. If anything, that makes him an super-super monster or some shit.

Keizer Ghidorah stomped a tired Godzilla. When ever they were on the same playing Field Godzilla stomped him.

Tyrant28 · Post by **Tyrant28** » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:04 pm

I would like to see a aquatic kaiju or at least a kaiju who can go into the water. Love for a underwater battle and see how Godzilla fights underwater. Despite Godzilla being a amphibious monster, we rarely actually see him fight underwater. (His battle against Battra is the only real one I can remember while the others were really quick or happen off camera.)

Variola · Post by **Variola** » Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:19 pm

miguelnuva wrote:
Godzelda wrote:Wow, it seems Final Wars was so forgettable that some of us have forgotten that Keizer G totally curb-stomped Godzilla until the latter got a power boost. If anything, that makes him an super-super monster or some shit.
Keizer Ghidorah stomped a tired Godzilla. When ever they were on the same playing Field Godzilla stomped him.

Dunno about it being the "same playing field", Godzilla got a massive power boost from Ozaki. Kinda like competing in the Olympics while on steroids.

miguelnuva · Post by **miguelnuva** » Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:26 pm

Variola wrote:
miguelnuva wrote:
Godzelda wrote:Wow, it seems Final Wars was so forgettable that some of us have forgotten that Keizer G totally curb-stomped Godzilla until the latter got a power boost. If anything, that makes him an super-super monster or some shit.
Keizer Ghidorah stomped a tired Godzilla. When ever they were on the same playing Field Godzilla stomped him.
Dunno about it being the "same playing field", Godzilla got a massive power boost from Ozaki. Kinda like competing in the Olympics while on steroids.

Monster X was boosted by X which cause him to transform into Keizer Ghidorah.

Variola · Post by **Variola** » Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:31 pm

miguelnuva wrote: Monster X was boosted by X which cause him to transform into Keizer Ghidorah.

Boosted by who/what?
I don't recall anyone ever shooting a giant beam of Keizer energy into Monster X.

miguelnuva · Post by **miguelnuva** » Fri Sep 25, 2015 6:04 pm

Variola wrote:
miguelnuva wrote: Monster X was boosted by X which cause him to transform into Keizer Ghidorah.
Boosted by who/what?
I don't recall anyone ever shooting a giant beam of Keizer energy into Monster X.

The guy that Ozaki was fighting. He does it on the ship right before he explodes.

Variola · Post by **Variola** » Fri Sep 25, 2015 6:07 pm

miguelnuva wrote:
Variola wrote: Boosted by who/what?
I don't recall anyone ever shooting a giant beam of Keizer energy into Monster X.
The guy that Ozaki was fighting. He does it on the ship right before he explodes.

I didn't think that was implied as we never see energy flowing to Monster X the way it does when Ozaki powers up Godzilla. He seemed to just be doing the "bad guy screams in rage as his base is destroyed around him" thing. Also, Monster X does not transform right away, but a few minutes later.

miguelnuva · Post by **miguelnuva** » Fri Sep 25, 2015 8:15 pm

Variola wrote:
miguelnuva wrote:
Variola wrote: Boosted by who/what?
I don't recall anyone ever shooting a giant beam of Keizer energy into Monster X.
The guy that Ozaki was fighting. He does it on the ship right before he explodes.
I didn't think that was implied as we never see energy flowing to Monster X the way it does when Ozaki powers up Godzilla. He seemed to just be doing the "bad guy screams in rage as his base is destroyed around him" thing. Also, Monster X does not transform right away, but a few minutes later.

I'm not sure what was going on but I remember it was said X gave his power to allow the transformation on the old Tohokingdom boards and everyone pretty much agreed with that.

Variola · Post by **Variola** » Fri Sep 25, 2015 8:24 pm

miguelnuva wrote: I'm not sure what was going on but I remember it was said X gave his power to allow the transformation on the old Tohokingdom boards and everyone pretty much agreed with that.

I just never got that impression myself. Besides the transformation occurring a few minutes after the Xilian leader's demise, I think if they'd wanted to imply a link they would have shown energy flowing to Monster X or something. But we're drifting off topic a bit.

Giga Kaiju · Post by **Giga Kaiju** » Fri Sep 25, 2015 9:19 pm

An enemy that can be in danger in land, sea and sky would be really interesting to see. Could rank up the stakes against Godzilla (and any other kaiju that could team up with him in the story).

KaijuFiend · Post by **KaijuFiend** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 2:47 am

Tyrant28 wrote:I would like to see a aquatic kaiju or at least a kaiju who can go into the water. Love for a underwater battle and see how Godzilla fights underwater. Despite Godzilla being a amphibious monster, we rarely actually see him fight underwater. (His battle against Battra is the only real one I can remember while the others were really quick or happen off camera.)

I second this. Water battles have been very limited in the past due to the risks involved with using suits in the water. With CGI, we don't have that limitation.

Giga Kaiju · Post by **Giga Kaiju** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:26 pm

Maybe with Rodan and Mothra, we could maybe ALSO have sky battles. Seems possible, and cool to imagine.

Variola · Post by **Variola** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:06 pm

Giga Kaiju wrote:Maybe with Rodan and Mothra, we could maybe ALSO have sky battles. Seems possible, and cool to imagine.

Not impossible at all, it's been done in the likes of Gamera 3 and Ultraman: The Next.
Modern Hollywood effects would greatly benefit its execution also.

Post by **kindred.dread** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:29 pm

I like the MUTOs but frankly you can't have a Godzilla series without Mothra or King Ghidorah showing up at some point. They're as part of the franchise as he is.
That being said, I feel like 2 bringing in familiar faces and 3 doing that while also introducing a new one would be the best middle ground.

Giga Kaiju · Post by **Giga Kaiju** » Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:48 pm

Variola wrote:
Giga Kaiju wrote:Maybe with Rodan and Mothra, we could maybe ALSO have sky battles. Seems possible, and cool to imagine.
Not impossible at all, it's been done in the likes of Gamera 3 and Ultraman: The Next.
Modern Hollywood effects would greatly benefit its execution also.

Seems very obvious to think that if there more than two flying kaiju, they'd address that. Would be a nice change of pace from land battles.

Up there with the sea-kind of battles (That'd be actually kind of cool to see with the budget of the Legendary series).

Underworld54 · Post by **Underworld54** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 2:25 pm

I want more original monsters, I loved the MUTO's.

Giga Kaiju · Post by **Giga Kaiju** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:08 pm

Funny, considering that many people didn't like them, design wise.

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