Godzilla King of the Monsters Speculation Thread [NO SPOILERS]

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Re: The Godzilla 2 Speculation Thread [NO SPOILERS]

Postby Godzilla2000Zero » Fri May 24, 2019 7:20 pm

I'm not surprised about these negative reactions their are some legitimate pacing issues in the final battle the action moves so first and switch back and forth so much that a couple don't get enough. Characters are fine certainly the best in the Monsterverse but I think they were expecting a more serious tone like G14. Just wait to reiterate that my full house screening everybody clapped it's a fun movie that the GA can enjoy and the critics more mixed and a few haters which I can't really blame them
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Postby cloverfan98 » Fri May 24, 2019 7:21 pm

_JNavs_ wrote:
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KingKaiju wrote:
That seems to still be the same. Ah well, should be fine.


The human characters were pretty great in this. There's a whole lot of them who only say one or two lines but the main characters are well done if nothing original.

Without delving into spoilers of course, would you say Kyle Chandler was a standout favorite?

Was Charles Dance a favorite?


Are we comparing them to all characters from every Godzilla film? Kyle Chandler is someone who I always enjoy seeing and his character is probably my favorite of all the new ones. Nothing too new a father who lost a child to Godzilla or the MUTOs in 2014 who hates Godzilla for it. Unlike Joe Brody he actually gets to struggle with these feelings for more than 25 min. Charles Dance was pretty great and felt pretty ruthless. We could have been shown doing more but you don't want the human villain to compete with Ghidorah for the spotlight so I can understand why he doesn't have more screen time. I could see that changing and him growing more in the future.

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Postby Godzilla2000Zero » Fri May 24, 2019 7:22 pm

_JNavs_ wrote:
cloverfan98 wrote:
KingKaiju wrote:
That seems to still be the same. Ah well, should be fine.


The human characters were pretty great in this. There's a whole lot of them who only say one or two lines but the main characters are well done if nothing original.

Without delving into spoilers of course, would you say Kyle Chandler was a standout favorite?

Was Charles Dance a favorite?


Kyle Chandler was good very emotional as was Vera and Millie
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Postby Vandarker » Fri May 24, 2019 7:23 pm

Godzilla2000Zero wrote:I'm not surprised about these negative reactions their are some legitimate pacing issues in the final battle the action moves so first and switch back and forth so much that a couple don't get enough. Characters are fine certainly the best in the Monsterverse but I think they were expecting a more serious tone like G14. Just wait to reiterate that my full house screening everybody clapped it's a fun movie that the GA can enjoy and the critics more mixed and a few haters which I can't really blame them

Yeah, the movie definitely does have minor issues and if one chooses to dwell on those, I can understand why that person would dislike this movie. It's a fun move but not flawless.

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That seems to still be the same. Ah well, should be fine.


The human characters were pretty great in this. There's a whole lot of them who only say one or two lines but the main characters are well done if nothing original.

Without delving into spoilers of course, would you say Kyle Chandler was a standout favorite?

Was Charles Dance a favorite?

Chandler did good acting, though I think the script could have given him some more character development.

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Postby GodzillavsZilla » Fri May 24, 2019 7:56 pm

Heads up, don't post spoiler reviews in non-spoiler threads.
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Postby LockBite » Fri May 24, 2019 8:40 pm

cloverfan98 wrote:
_JNavs_ wrote:
cloverfan98 wrote:
The human characters were pretty great in this. There's a whole lot of them who only say one or two lines but the main characters are well done if nothing original.

Without delving into spoilers of course, would you say Kyle Chandler was a standout favorite?

Was Charles Dance a favorite?


Are we comparing them to all characters from every Godzilla film? Kyle Chandler is someone who I always enjoy seeing and his character is probably my favorite of all the new ones. Nothing too new a father who lost a child to Godzilla or the MUTOs in 2014 who hates Godzilla for it. Unlike Joe Brody he actually gets to struggle with these feelings for more than 25 min. Charles Dance was pretty great and felt pretty ruthless. We could have been shown doing more but you don't want the human villain to compete with Ghidorah for the spotlight so I can understand why he doesn't have more screen time. I could see that changing and him growing more in the future.

Would you agree with Godzilla2000Zero’s assessment? Is there a pacing issue in the final battle, with too much cutting back and forth? Is it too lighthearted overall?

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Postby scandisk_ » Fri May 24, 2019 9:22 pm

One thing these early reviews have in common is that, it's Propping Aladdin on a Godzilla review. And it's not like a short remark, they BLATANTLY say ALADDIN HAD WON em OVER on a Godzilla video.

To each his own, I guess

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Postby _JNavs_ » Fri May 24, 2019 9:24 pm

scandisk_ wrote:One thing these early reviews have in common is that, it's Propping Aladdin on a Godzilla review. And it's not like a short remark, they BLATANTLY say ALADDIN HAD WON em OVER on a Godzilla video.

To each his own, I guess

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Which is interesting since Aladdin just came out today, and Godzilla had screenings that technically can't be "reviewed" yet.
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Postby scandisk_ » Fri May 24, 2019 9:26 pm

_JNavs_ wrote:
scandisk_ wrote:One thing these early reviews have in common is that, it's Propping Aladdin on a Godzilla review. And it's not like a short remark, they BLATANTLY say ALADDIN HAD WON em OVER on a Godzilla video.

To each his own, I guess

/evildisney

Which is interesting since Aladdin just came out today, and Godzilla had screenings that technically can't be "reviewed" yet.


One reviewer gave it a 7/10. But it doesn't sound like it warranted a 7 based on his review (more like a 5). Weird.

Anyhoo, we'll see.
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Postby Dv-218 » Fri May 24, 2019 9:35 pm

Yeah, after actually looking into all 4 reviews it seems that all of them follow the basic theme- no serious criticisms in regards to actual issues, just the same mindset of "wtf I paid to watch a Godzilla movie, what are the humans doing here it sucks ffs I wanna see MORE FIGHTS". The fact that one of them is literally getting roasted in the comments says a lot lmao. I'm definitely curious to see if there are more actual negative reviews, but these 4 might aswell be ignored completely lol.

Also, the last one is 10% review, 90% praising Aladdin. I would have asked what's the connection exactly, but it seems pretty clearly to be a homemade commercial.
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Postby Hokmuto » Fri May 24, 2019 11:00 pm

Chinese screening ends in an hour I believe.
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Postby daveblackeye15 » Fri May 24, 2019 11:12 pm

I thought that said 'Chinese screaming' as in happy raving and I was ready to say 'well hold on now let's not expect them to fall head over heels for it.'

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Postby Godzilla2000Zero » Sat May 25, 2019 12:00 am

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cloverfan98 wrote:
_JNavs_ wrote:Without delving into spoilers of course, would you say Kyle Chandler was a standout favorite?

Was Charles Dance a favorite?


Are we comparing them to all characters from every Godzilla film? Kyle Chandler is someone who I always enjoy seeing and his character is probably my favorite of all the new ones. Nothing too new a father who lost a child to Godzilla or the MUTOs in 2014 who hates Godzilla for it. Unlike Joe Brody he actually gets to struggle with these feelings for more than 25 min. Charles Dance was pretty great and felt pretty ruthless. We could have been shown doing more but you don't want the human villain to compete with Ghidorah for the spotlight so I can understand why he doesn't have more screen time. I could see that changing and him growing more in the future.

Would you agree with Godzilla2000Zero’s assessment? Is there a pacing issue in the final battle, with too much cutting back and forth? Is it too lighthearted overall?

The tone wasn't really an issue for me although the trailers did make it seem like it was a slightly more serious film than it actually is it just depends on your taste as far as the pacing it concerned it not there's not enough action there's plenty of it more than G14 and Kong but it's the way they cut between the human scenes and monster scenes and very fast which I have stated earlier that G14 and Kong I thought did a better job at but at least the human characters are superior this time so it's just a personal nitpick with me that may go away with a second viewing but I can understand why some hated it
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Postby LockBite » Sat May 25, 2019 12:54 am

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cloverfan98 wrote:
Are we comparing them to all characters from every Godzilla film? Kyle Chandler is someone who I always enjoy seeing and his character is probably my favorite of all the new ones. Nothing too new a father who lost a child to Godzilla or the MUTOs in 2014 who hates Godzilla for it. Unlike Joe Brody he actually gets to struggle with these feelings for more than 25 min. Charles Dance was pretty great and felt pretty ruthless. We could have been shown doing more but you don't want the human villain to compete with Ghidorah for the spotlight so I can understand why he doesn't have more screen time. I could see that changing and him growing more in the future.

Would you agree with Godzilla2000Zero’s assessment? Is there a pacing issue in the final battle, with too much cutting back and forth? Is it too lighthearted overall?

The tone wasn't really an issue for me although the trailers did make it seem like it was a slightly more serious film than it actually is it just depends on your taste as far as the pacing it concerned it not there's not enough action there's plenty of it more than G14 and Kong but it's the way they cut between the human scenes and monster scenes and very fast which I have stated earlier that G14 and Kong I thought did a better job at but at least the human characters are superior this time so it's just a personal nitpick with me that may go away with a second viewing but I can understand why some hated it

Wait, the movie is actually LIGHTER than the trailers made it out to be? How many wisecracks are in this skreeonking thing, man? Is it darker than Avengers Endgame at least?

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Postby Godzilla2000Zero » Sat May 25, 2019 1:19 am

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LockBite wrote:Would you agree with Godzilla2000Zero’s assessment? Is there a pacing issue in the final battle, with too much cutting back and forth? Is it too lighthearted overall?

The tone wasn't really an issue for me although the trailers did make it seem like it was a slightly more serious film than it actually is it just depends on your taste as far as the pacing it concerned it not there's not enough action there's plenty of it more than G14 and Kong but it's the way they cut between the human scenes and monster scenes and very fast which I have stated earlier that G14 and Kong I thought did a better job at but at least the human characters are superior this time so it's just a personal nitpick with me that may go away with a second viewing but I can understand why some hated it

Wait, the movie is actually LIGHTER than the trailers made it out to be? How many wisecracks are in this skreeonking thing, man? Is it darker than Avengers Endgame at least?

It's slightly darker than your typical Marvel film but not by much and would maybe comparable with Endgame and is certainly some dark scenes but the humor is surprisely good if you liked Kong's tone you'll enjoy this
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Postby Dv-218 » Sat May 25, 2019 1:22 am

I'm quite baffled people were actually expecting this to be dark and gritty in the first place. Nothing about the trailers gave that particular vibe lol.

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Postby LockBite » Sat May 25, 2019 1:40 am

Godzilla2000Zero wrote:
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Godzilla2000Zero wrote:The tone wasn't really an issue for me although the trailers did make it seem like it was a slightly more serious film than it actually is it just depends on your taste as far as the pacing it concerned it not there's not enough action there's plenty of it more than G14 and Kong but it's the way they cut between the human scenes and monster scenes and very fast which I have stated earlier that G14 and Kong I thought did a better job at but at least the human characters are superior this time so it's just a personal nitpick with me that may go away with a second viewing but I can understand why some hated it

Wait, the movie is actually LIGHTER than the trailers made it out to be? How many wisecracks are in this skreeonking thing, man? Is it darker than Avengers Endgame at least?

It's slightly darker than your typical Marvel film but not by much and would maybe comparable with Endgame and is certainly some dark scenes but the humor is surprisely good if you liked Kong's tone you'll enjoy this

I found Kong to be WAY too goofy. To the point where everything came off as a big joke. I don’t want to see anything like that, and it sucks if this film’s tone is comparable at all. Sorry to be such a downer, that’s just my opinion.

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Postby Godzilla2000Zero » Sat May 25, 2019 1:49 am

The humor is better in this film and retains some of the serious nature of G14 in several scenes so it's slighty more serious than Kong but not much. They are some wisecracks from Middleditch and Whitford and others but I didn't find it distracting just ironic how these guys were dealing with a skreeonked up situation
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Postby Can of Conspiracy » Sat May 25, 2019 2:58 am

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Can of Conspiracy wrote:Anyone care to link some of these? I know I'm being a lazy sod, but you guys got me intrigued. Thanks of the replies, in any case.

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Thanks a bunch! Dance is fast becoming one of the things I'm the most excited to see. Really wish they had more of his lines plastered all over the ads instead of the endless dammrights and thatsmessedups.
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