Y'know I know the idea gets a lot of hate. But I'd love to see this universes Godzilla take on Bagan in the future.Godzilla21 wrote:come on. If we are going for really obscure things it just might as well be BaganGodzillaFan1990's wrote:As an easter egg/hidden hint (Like the tank that had Mothra's name labeled when Joe and Ford goes to that supposed contaminated zone) I could possibility see.daveblackeye15 wrote:Maybe the turtle-skeleton from Mothra vs. Godzilla will cameo?
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^This. I went to see it on black Friday and there were 3 other people in the theater other than me. Btw It did suck.Tyrant_Lizard_King wrote:Justice League isn't doing well because it sucks and nobody cares anymore.
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Yeeeeah, there are a lot more variables as to why Justice League isn’t doing well. Having Coco as its competition is the least of its concern, I think. And I’m a guy who really enjoyed it.
Anyways, I just listened to Michae Dougherty on Mick Garris’ podcast. I didn’t realize that he was such a Godzilla fan. I know a lot of actors and directors will do the old “oh yeah!! I’ve liked this franchise since I was little,” but Dougherty seems like a genuine fan. I’ve never been crazy about his films, but that makes me wonder if maybe a Kaiju film like this will be here he really shines.
Anyways, I just listened to Michae Dougherty on Mick Garris’ podcast. I didn’t realize that he was such a Godzilla fan. I know a lot of actors and directors will do the old “oh yeah!! I’ve liked this franchise since I was little,” but Dougherty seems like a genuine fan. I’ve never been crazy about his films, but that makes me wonder if maybe a Kaiju film like this will be here he really shines.
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Dougherty being a Godzilla fan does enlighten the mood. Shows he'll make it deliver for sure.
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I don't mean to sound obnoxious, but why do people like Bagan? He strikes me as a cross between Spacegodzilla and Destoroyah.ernesth100 wrote:Y'know I know the idea gets a lot of hate. But I'd love to see this universes Godzilla take on Bagan in the future.Godzilla21 wrote:come on. If we are going for really obscure things it just might as well be BaganGodzillaFan1990's wrote: As an easter egg/hidden hint (Like the tank that had Mothra's name labeled when Joe and Ford goes to that supposed contaminated zone) I could possibility see.
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Well, a majority of the uninformed Godzilla fanbase (Shin's a microorgansim,, Zilla's the same as G98, and There are 2 endings for KKvG) Think Bagan is a superkaiju that could destroy every other kaiju in the Godzilla universe thanks to super Godzilla and badly written fanfiction. As for educated fanbase members, that's up to their individual preferences.Loganrules115 wrote:I don't mean to sound obnoxious, but why do people like Bagan? He strikes me as a cross between Spacegodzilla and Destoroyah.ernesth100 wrote:Y'know I know the idea gets a lot of hate. But I'd love to see this universes Godzilla take on Bagan in the future.Godzilla21 wrote:
come on. If we are going for really obscure things it just might as well be Bagan
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I'm also up for seeing Bagan as unlikely as it is. This could also prove to be an advantage. The general audience will think he's just another original monster that Legendary cooked up.
That and you could have his origin be similar to that in the game being this created hybrid of Godzilla and King Ghidorah whose DNA samples were taken to create him supposedly by Jonah (Monarch's supposed evil counterpart and rivals) which could work as a post-credits such as Jonah members discussing their plans and one of them showing vials with monster name labels on them among those being Godzilla and King Ghidorah.
Or...If you just want to go the simple naturalism route, introduce Bagan as this superpredator of Godzilla's kind.
That and you could have his origin be similar to that in the game being this created hybrid of Godzilla and King Ghidorah whose DNA samples were taken to create him supposedly by Jonah (Monarch's supposed evil counterpart and rivals) which could work as a post-credits such as Jonah members discussing their plans and one of them showing vials with monster name labels on them among those being Godzilla and King Ghidorah.
Or...If you just want to go the simple naturalism route, introduce Bagan as this superpredator of Godzilla's kind.
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Save bagan for a toho film. I feel like they owe him that much.
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Agreeded. Togo could even go the original, Began, Mothra and Godzilla universe now in the shin universe.SenseiTeriyakiV wrote:Save bagan for a toho film. I feel like they owe him that much.
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Why is Bagan even still being brought up, let alone why would anyone in the right mind even think that Legendary would even "consider" him for one of their films?SenseiTeriyakiV wrote:Save bagan for a toho film. I feel like they owe him that much.
Honestly that sounds awful and more like something that would be done in a comic rather a multi-million dollar Hollywood movie.GodzillaFan1990's wrote:I'm also up for seeing Bagan as unlikely as it is. This could also prove to be an advantage. The general audience will think he's just another original monster that Legendary cooked up.
That and you could have his origin be similar to that in the game being this created hybrid of Godzilla and King Ghidorah whose DNA samples were taken to create him supposedly by Jonah (Monarch's supposed evil counterpart and rivals) which could work as a post-credits such as Jonah members discussing their plans and one of them showing vials with monster name labels on them among those being Godzilla and King Ghidorah.
Or...If you just want to go the simple naturalism route, introduce Bagan as this superpredator of Godzilla's kind.
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I'd go with the superpredator route. Heck they've already gone the hollow Earth route, now we just need Bagan at the core.GodzillaFan1990's wrote:I'm also up for seeing Bagan as unlikely as it is. This could also prove to be an advantage. The general audience will think he's just another original monster that Legendary cooked up.
That and you could have his origin be similar to that in the game being this created hybrid of Godzilla and King Ghidorah whose DNA samples were taken to create him supposedly by Jonah (Monarch's supposed evil counterpart and rivals) which could work as a post-credits such as Jonah members discussing their plans and one of them showing vials with monster name labels on them among those being Godzilla and King Ghidorah.
Or...If you just want to go the simple naturalism route, introduce Bagan as this superpredator of Godzilla's kind.
^Also, the reason we bring up Bagan is 'cause we think he's cool. That's it. I don't think there are any requirements for throwing around ideas for one monster or another.
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This is what I'm saying. If the studio is afraid to the point of delaying the movie a year every time there's some major competition, we would never see it. It did seem like a delay could still be necessary after the director change and all, but as a poster above stated, most movies are released within a year of completed filming, and G2 has completed filming. If they legitimately delayed it because it needed a lot more work (I admit this is very possible), than that's all well and good, but if they delayed it to avoid competition, well, like you said, there will always be competition, and I wish they had stuck to 2018.Pacfanweb wrote:Can't be afraid, though. Marvel isn't going to stop, they're steadily releasing movies the next few years, and they're all pretty much going to beat any monster movie. Everything else besides Star Wars is on a lower level.
Can't be afraid of Aquaman, surely. I don't think even Justice League is going to beat Kong or Godzilla 2014. Certainly not much better, if any. DC just doesn't have it like Marvel does.
The next year isn't going to be any easier. 2019's going to have Gambit, How to Train Your Dragon, Captain Marvel, Avengers, Aladdin (which will likely be just ridiculously big), Spiderman, Star Wars 9, and a load of others. I don't see it being any less loaded. Just odd they'd wait so long. Bring it out while Kong SI is still in everyone's mind.
edit: saw someone else posted basically the same thing right above this one. should have scrolled all the way down first, lol
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They have to market the universe more as shared. Let people know what this is all leading up to. I promise if they pull it off right. I see nothing but success for all these films. They've been doing pretty damn good so far.
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Dumbo is no Beauty and the Beast, not to mention the fact that Captain Marvel is a full two weeks ahead of KotM as opposed to Logan's one week ahead of KSI. How to Train your Dragon is even earlier than that. None of these movies are going to make a dent in Godzilla's box office. But we still have over a year before the embargo even drops on KotM, so let's not piss our pants now.GodzillaFan1990's wrote:*Cough*How to Train Your Dragon 3*Cough*miguelnuva wrote:2019 is safer because KOTM is coming in March before the big stuff takes over.
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Warner Bros films their tentpoles a long time in advance, and there are plenty of factors that go into a release date change. You guys are worrying too much about this stuff when we're still over a year away.JesstrK wrote:This is what I'm saying. If the studio is afraid to the point of delaying the movie a year every time there's some major competition, we would never see it. It did seem like a delay could still be necessary after the director change and all, but as a poster above stated, most movies are released within a year of completed filming, and G2 has completed filming. If they legitimately delayed it because it needed a lot more work (I admit this is very possible), than that's all well and good, but if they delayed it to avoid competition, well, like you said, there will always be competition, and I wish they had stuck to 2018.Pacfanweb wrote:Can't be afraid, though. Marvel isn't going to stop, they're steadily releasing movies the next few years, and they're all pretty much going to beat any monster movie. Everything else besides Star Wars is on a lower level.
Can't be afraid of Aquaman, surely. I don't think even Justice League is going to beat Kong or Godzilla 2014. Certainly not much better, if any. DC just doesn't have it like Marvel does.
The next year isn't going to be any easier. 2019's going to have Gambit, How to Train Your Dragon, Captain Marvel, Avengers, Aladdin (which will likely be just ridiculously big), Spiderman, Star Wars 9, and a load of others. I don't see it being any less loaded. Just odd they'd wait so long. Bring it out while Kong SI is still in everyone's mind.
edit: saw someone else posted basically the same thing right above this one. should have scrolled all the way down first, lol
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You guys are really worrying to much about the box office
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If Disney can pull it off, they can, again they are not to be underestimated. Even then Dumbo was one of their first movies they released when they were just starting.Ryguy wrote:Dumbo is no Beauty and the Beast
This is Disney after all, an multi-billion dollar company, an company who just recently had the potential to have bought the majority of Fox.
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You mean the same movie that scarred a lot of the kids who watched it? Dumbo doesn't have the same charm as Lion King or Beauty and the Beast: all I remember from it was that it scared the living shit out of me as a kid, just like the Heffalumps and Woozles from Winnie the Pooh and the part where the kids were turned into donkeys in Pinnochio
Something about Dumbo just always felt off to me. Like I have very fond memories watching Cinderella, Lion King, Jungle Book, Pixar, Aristocats, etc. during my childhood, and then there's Dumbo. It's like the bastard child of the Disney bunch. All I remember from it was that it was emotionally draining
Something about Dumbo just always felt off to me. Like I have very fond memories watching Cinderella, Lion King, Jungle Book, Pixar, Aristocats, etc. during my childhood, and then there's Dumbo. It's like the bastard child of the Disney bunch. All I remember from it was that it was emotionally draining
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Disney is powerful but even they have limits. Alice though the looking glass was bad for example and with Tim Burton directing its going to turn off a lot of people.GodzillaFan1990's wrote:If Disney can pull it off, they can, again they are not to be underestimated. Even then Dumbo was one of their first movies they released when they were just starting.Ryguy wrote:Dumbo is no Beauty and the Beast
This is Disney after all, an multi-billion dollar company, an company who just recently had the potential to have bought the majority of Fox.
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^Tim Burton is the director. Dumbo has already been filmed, but like I said earlier, the original movie was none of the big powerhouses that Disney has to offer
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Touche.Ryguy wrote:You mean the same movie that scarred a lot of the kids who watched it? Dumbo doesn't have the same charm as Lion King or Beauty and the Beast: all I remember from it was that it scared the living Hedorah out of me as a kid, just like the Heffalumps and Woozles from Winnie the Pooh and the part where the kids were turned into donkeys in Pinnochio
Something about Dumbo just always felt off to me. Like I have very fond memories watching Cinderella, Lion King, Jungle Book, Pixar, Aristocats, etc. during my childhood, and then there's Dumbo. It's like the bastard child of the Disney bunch. All I remember from it was that it was emotionally draining
I suppose that's a good point, can't argue with that.miguelnuva wrote:Disney is powerful but even they have limits. Alice though the looking glass was bad for example and with Tim Burton directing its going to turn off a lot of people.
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