What is Godzilla? His species?

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Re: What is Godzilla? His species?

Postby ILL GREEN » Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:25 am

I don't think Godzilla is really a reptile but you have to admit that the marine iguanas looks a bit like him. With the charcoal skin and silver-like fins, plus the long arms. Only thing is that Godzilla stands straight and doesn't crawl like Anguirus. But that can be faulted to radiation exposure along with his size and atomic breath.

Godzilla probably was once a dragon as in the Book of Daniel but remain hidden within the Earth's crust until the atomic age which altered him into the kaiju-ō he is today.

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Re: What is Godzilla? His species?

Postby junkerde » Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:32 am

more liek a croc lookin bear
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Re: What is Godzilla? His species?

Postby Vatarian » Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:47 pm

ILL GREEN wrote:I don't think Godzilla is really a reptile but you have to admit that the marine iguanas looks a bit like him. With the charcoal skin and silver-like fins, plus the long arms. Only thing is that Godzilla stands straight and doesn't crawl like Anguirus. But that can be faulted to radiation exposure along with his size and atomic breath.

Godzilla probably was once a dragon as in the Book of Daniel but remain hidden within the Earth's crust until the atomic age which altered him into the kaiju-ō he is today.



This version is not mutated.

At all.

They even found another skeleton that was almost identical save for a shorter tale and weird spines.

He's a pre-exising species that came that way and everything.

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Re: What is Godzilla? His species?

Postby Olzh26 » Tue May 14, 2019 10:45 am

Maverick Centigrade wrote:
GTU wrote:Synapsids shared the Permian period with reptiles, and synapsids were the largest land vertebrates of the Permian. I'm sticking with him being a synapsid.


But the credits (the marked out ones) clearly stated he was a reptile...though. That doesn't factor in here? You're welcome to think he's a synapsid, I won't stop ya.

What credits did he say he was a reptile?

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Re: What is Godzilla? His species?

Postby Maverick Centigrade » Tue May 14, 2019 11:01 am

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GTU wrote:Synapsids shared the Permian period with reptiles, and synapsids were the largest land vertebrates of the Permian. I'm sticking with him being a synapsid.


But the credits (the marked out ones) clearly stated he was a reptile...though. That doesn't factor in here? You're welcome to think he's a synapsid, I won't stop ya.

What credits did he say he was a reptile?


I was wrong, I thought I had seen it back then, but the credits make no mention of it. But I've always seen him as a reptile to be honest.
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Re: What is Godzilla? His species?

Postby gottatalktothefake » Tue May 14, 2019 12:44 pm

Honestly the Genus/Species being Titanus gojira with the individual being named Godzilla is perfect.
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Re: What is Godzilla? His species?

Postby Tyrant28 » Tue May 14, 2019 1:11 pm

For an actual binomial nomenclature naming, it makes zero sense at all. Since all of the other titans have Titanus as their binomial, which would be for the Genus. Would have been better as Gojira titanus, but it just something only zoology nerds are going to care about anyways.
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Re: What is Godzilla? His species?

Postby Dv-218 » Tue May 14, 2019 1:40 pm

Tbh the "Titanus" designation, as little biological sense it makes, does make sense from a practical point of view for Monarch- much easier to organize all of the data when it's just "Titanus_", and without going through the hardship of coming up with a scientific name for every new Titan. That, and "Titanus Gojira" just sounds badass.

As for classification...dunno, a basal Archosaur related to Dinosaurs and Crocodiles perhaps? Maybe a Pseudosuchian? Going by the scalation, looks very croc-esque. The gills could be a secondary evolution rather than a remnant.

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Re: What is Godzilla? His species?

Postby Olzh26 » Tue May 14, 2019 7:41 pm

Dv-218 wrote:Tbh the "Titanus" designation, as little biological sense it makes, does make sense from a practical point of view for Monarch- much easier to organize all of the data when it's just "Titanus_", and without going through the hardship of coming up with a scientific name for every new Titan. That, and "Titanus Gojira" just sounds badass.

As for classification...dunno, a basal Archosaur related to Dinosaurs and Crocodiles perhaps? Maybe a Pseudosuchian? Going by the scalation, looks very croc-esque. The gills could be a secondary evolution rather than a remnant.

Considering that Godzilla appeared earlier than pseudosuchians, he most likely has a separate line of development of archosaurs.

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Postby Mr_Goji_and_Watch » Tue May 14, 2019 7:51 pm

junkerde wrote:more liek a croc lookin bear


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Re: What is Godzilla? His species?

Postby Olzh26 » Tue May 14, 2019 8:20 pm

What about muto? they have a structure like that of vertebrates, but a life cycle like that of arthropods. the question "who are they " remains open
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Re: What is Godzilla? His species?

Postby Maverick Centigrade » Wed May 15, 2019 5:56 am

Olzh26 wrote:What about muto? they have a structure like that of vertebrates, but a life cycle like that of arthropods. the question "who are they " remains open


I don't think we'll ever get an answer on that one.
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Re: What is Godzilla? His species?

Postby Dv-218 » Wed May 15, 2019 6:27 am

I heard an idea that they might be heavily derived, terrestrial Placoderms once. Obviously just a speculation and far from confirmed (we'll never know lol), but a pretty neat one. Might explain why they have such a unique look and biology despite being vertebrates.
Not to mention, MUTO Prime's face does look somewhat like that of a bony fish, Dunkleosteus in particular.
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Re: What is Godzilla? His species?

Postby Olzh26 » Wed May 15, 2019 7:43 am

Maverick Centigrade wrote:
Olzh26 wrote:What about muto? they have a structure like that of vertebrates, but a life cycle like that of arthropods. the question "who are they " remains open


I don't think we'll ever get an answer on that one.

Sooner or later, producers must disclose the classification of titans. And in GvK, judging by the synopsis, they should reveal the origin of the kaiju, then maybe we will be told about their classification and evolution.

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Dv-218 wrote:I heard an idea that they might be heavily derived, terrestrial Placoderms once. Obviously just a speculation and far from confirmed (we'll never know lol), but a pretty neat one. Might explain why they have such a unique look and biology despite being vertebrates.
Not to mention, MUTO Prime's face does look somewhat like that of a bony fish, Dunkleosteus in particular.

If they are vertebrates, why is their life cycle like that of arthropods? or is such a life cycle possible in vertebrates?

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Re: What is Godzilla? His species?

Postby Gawdziller1954 » Wed May 15, 2019 9:02 am

Olzh26 wrote:If they are vertebrates, why is their life cycle like that of arthropods? or is such a life cycle possible in vertebrates?

The vertebra of the female MUTO is visible in high-res as her decapitated corpse falls under the water
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Re: What is Godzilla? His species?

Postby Ben Shapiro » Wed May 15, 2019 9:42 am

Olzh26 wrote:why is their life cycle like that of arthropods? or is such a life cycle possible in vertebrates?

Why are you trying to apply real world logic to crazy made-up monsters?

The answer is always- they just do.
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Re: What is Godzilla? His species?

Postby Dv-218 » Wed May 15, 2019 9:47 am

Ben Shapiro wrote:
Olzh26 wrote:why is their life cycle like that of arthropods? or is such a life cycle possible in vertebrates?

Why are you trying to apply real world logic to crazy made-up monsters?

The answer is always- they just do.


Percisely. Movie science at it's finest. Nobody is going to question the ability of Godzilla to breathe an atomic breath, or Ghidorah's ability to generate lighting storms- and this is no different.

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Re: What is Godzilla? His species?

Postby Gerdzerl » Wed May 15, 2019 9:52 am

Ben Shapiro wrote:Why are you trying to apply real world logic to crazy made-up monsters?


Well, that’s because it’s fun to do. Kaiju are weird and that makes trying to figure what they are and how they function all the more interesting. :D

Sure, you don’t have to question it, but why not? It’s fun!
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Re: What is Godzilla? His species?

Postby Ben Shapiro » Wed May 15, 2019 10:02 am

Gerdzerl wrote:
Ben Shapiro wrote:Why are you trying to apply real world logic to crazy made-up monsters?


Well, that’s because it’s fun to do. Kaiju are weird and that makes trying to figure what they are and how they function all the more interesting. :D

Sure, you don’t have to question it, but why not? It’s fun!

In some cases, maybe, but in others it takes away the novelty of these monsters.
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Re: What is Godzilla? His species?

Postby Mr_Goji_and_Watch » Wed May 15, 2019 10:05 am

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