The scene where G looks at Ford

[G2000]

I'm fine with the characterization of him in this film. Do think the marketing was most definitely misleading. Still, I enjoy being able to root for him. Would have prefered for him to fight the military a bit more (destroying one or two of the ships firing at him would be enough, maybe swatting at a few helicopters)

[GodzillaDude]

It was one of those scenes that really made the general movie, and Godzilla's character for me. Like others have side, it showed that there is more to Godzilla that makes him a "character" as opposed to simply a monster in the movie.

[Dorkzilla]

I love this scene.

[Shisa Caesar]

I didn't root for him in:

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Mothra vs Godzilla
King Kong vs Godzilla
GMK

Films I rooted for him in despite the will of the screenwriters
GxMechagodzilla
Tokyo SOS
Battle for Earth

I rooting for him in GMK.
That's the point of Gojira, F HUMANS!
YOU SUCK! TAKE IT!

[Dino-Mario]

It's one of the most emotional moments of the franchise for me. The first thing that jumped at my mind when watching that scene was this:

Good thing this Goji didn't do the same with Ford. Anyway, it's this kind of scenes that show you that Godzilla is much more than just a mutant dinosaur.

[KJ Corp]

It's one of the most emotional moments of the franchise for me. The first thing that jumped at my mind when watching that scene was this:
http://horrorcultfilms.co.uk/wp-content ... efault.jpg
Good thing this Goji didn't do the same with Ford. Anyway, it's this kind of scenes that show you that Godzilla is much more than just a mutant dinosaur.

It's a BAD thing Goji didn't do that to Ford. Also, was he really a mutant dinosaur though

I need to stop...

[three]

It's one of the most emotional moments of the franchise for me. The first thing that jumped at my mind when watching that scene was this:
http://horrorcultfilms.co.uk/wp-content ... efault.jpg
Good thing this Goji didn't do the same with Ford. Anyway, it's this kind of scenes that show you that Godzilla is much more than just a mutant dinosaur.

It's a BAD thing Goji didn't do that to Ford.

i agree. we're not supposed to identify with, or even to be able to identify with Godzilla.

[three]

He's a lonely creature and no one understands him. I think I can relate to that.

yup. you aren't supposed to be able to do that. he's not "one of us"; he's a monster. we need him sometimes, sure, but only because we're feeble, and we folly. humanizing him, or making him relateable, IMO removes a crucial part of the character that is Godzilla.

[three]

He's a lonely creature and no one understands him. I think I can relate to that.

yup. you aren't supposed to be able to do that. he's not "one of us"; he's a monster. we need him sometimes, sure, but only because we're feeble, and we folly. humanizing him, or making him relateable, IMO removes a crucial part of the character that is Godzilla.

It does? Haven't some of the greatest Godzilla films presented a very relateable Godzilla? Son of Godzilla, for example?

yea, that's arguable that it's even one of the "greatest" Godzilla films.

in his best film, he was not the least bit relateable. in his worst films, he was not relateable. he was (almost never) really something you could relate to.

in fact, he was "something", but never something we really understood in the sense that we got the "truth" of what he is, but rather we understood him in what he represents. we're edging into "what he is" territory, and we're making him "one of us".

[three]

I could have sworn what made Godzilla a character was little moments. We don't see it often but we see that he is a thinking animal and not some mindless apocalypse who exists soley to be a plague on humanity, he has these little moments as a big of character development so it doesn't feel like random out of the blue when he switches sides.

yea, but this took a step toward humanizing. that is not cool, not cool at all.

[three]

Not humanizing. It took a step towards showing him as a sentient being, not just a big animal.

there was a whole lot more power in that scene to suggest it merely attempted to show him as a sentient being. we already knew he was/is one, so this was much. especially with eye contact and a brief pause.

[Mr. Xeno]

He's a lonely creature and no one understands him. I think I can relate to that.

As for ATJ, I haven't seen his other films so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and say that it might have been a problem with directing or the script.

I haven't seen too many of his films either, but apparently he was only good in Nowhere Boy. He played the titular character in Kick-Ass, and those movies have the same problem as this film: The main character is the least interesting of the entire cast. The big difference being that Kick-Ass gives generous amounts of screentime to the more interesting characters, whereas this film focuses a LOT more on ATJ, and only one character in the entire film is interesting... and he dies 1/3 of the way in.

As for the first part of your post, that interpretation makes me think of this:

[three]

i really don't see what the rant about AJT has to do with the current discussion, xeno.

[Dorkzilla]

He's a lonely creature and no one understands him. I think I can relate to that.

yup. you aren't supposed to be able to do that. he's not "one of us"; he's a monster. we need him sometimes, sure, but only because we're feeble, and we folly. humanizing him, or making him relateable, IMO removes a crucial part of the character that is Godzilla.

Now, I'm sure it's just improper wording....but it almost sounds as if you're telling him that he can't feel what he wants to feel.

[three]

He's a lonely creature and no one understands him. I think I can relate to that.

yup. you aren't supposed to be able to do that. he's not "one of us"; he's a monster. we need him sometimes, sure, but only because we're feeble, and we folly. humanizing him, or making him relateable, IMO removes a crucial part of the character that is Godzilla.

Now, I'm sure it's just improper wording....but it almost sounds as if you're telling him that he can't feel what he wants to feel.

it's improper interpretation on your part.

[three]

So you're saying Godzilla shouldn't have character development, no small peaks into his personality, he should just be a 1 dimensional character?

not at all. i'm saying there are better ways to making his character obvious than a sentimental moment with the main character that makes him a sympathetic hero as opposed to a removed, alien, monsterous creature that he is.

Then he would just be a plot device and not a character. And what's made Godzilla last so long and stand out from other monster movies back in the 50's is that he isn't just a monster plot device, he's a thinking creature.

it's also what he represents. he's our fault. we're imperfect, he reminds us of this, and that has made him enduring, moreso than any characterization of the creature itself ever has.

[junkerde]

So you're saying Godzilla shouldn't have character development, no small peaks into his personality, he should just be a 1 dimensional character?

aka: so people want godzilla to be just like ATJ?

lol

[Vatarian]

So, back to something a number of people said a few pages back, what if Godzilla HAD crushed ATJ?

Just like that.

Splat.

How would you've reacted?

[GR8GODZILLAGOD]

So, back to something a number of people said a few pages back, what if Godzilla HAD crushed ATJ?

Just like that.

Splat.

How would you've reacted?

I wouldn't have seen it coming.... yeah.

[InstinctiveGigan]

Like the scene or not, interpret however you want, but at the end of the day it added to Godzilla's character.