Godzilla: The Look/Appearance Speculation

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Re: Godzilla: The Look

Postby ZillaEra » Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:10 am

Patrick Alan wrote:I've seen so many pictures of Godzilla 201X but does anyone actually officially know what he'll look like

No, unfortunately, no one knows what he'll look like, and no one has an official final design image. The only image that Legendary Pictures has officially released is this:

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They have been clear that even this is not yet the decided upon final design. We are all starving for more information.
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Re: Godzilla: The Look

Postby Rody » Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:01 am

^ It looks more like concept art than a final product anyway.
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Re: Godzilla: The Look

Postby ZillaEra » Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:42 am

Rody wrote:^ It looks more like concept art than a final product anyway.

Yeah, it does, which basically it is. I personally loved it.
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Re: Godzilla: The Look

Postby ZillaMaster91 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:41 am

While I'm happy that the T-Shirt art depicted Godzilla more traditionally, an indication that Legendary is one step closer at not repeating Tristar's fiasco, it's definitely not what I want as the final design. Despite showing Godzilla, as GODZILLA, there are still some areas of improvement such as skin texture (too smooth in my opinion), head design (too short and pudgy), and hands (the fingers are too long). Other than that, I'm fine with it. But it can be better.
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Re: Godzilla: The Look

Postby Godzillais#1 » Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:32 pm

I think Godzilla should have his Godzilla: Final Wars look, but I think the Spines should be done a little bit better.
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Re: Godzilla: The Look

Postby Gyaos » Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:59 pm

Came across this on DeviantART

http://the-great-mm.deviantart.com/#/d4ple8v

Personally, I dig the design (Awesome picture too)
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Re: Godzilla: The Look

Postby HayesAJones » Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:53 pm

^ Yeah, the electrical beam is weird, but he has this really lean, lanky, solid look that I love. I could totally see that in full CGI, tearing through buildings, tanking military fire, generally kicking ass... the works.
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Re: Godzilla: The Look

Postby ZillaEra » Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:03 am

Gyaos wrote:Came across this on DeviantART

http://the-great-mm.deviantart.com/#/d4ple8v

Personally, I dig the design (Awesome picture too)

Cool find, whenever I see pictures like this, I always think about how truly epic this movie could be. They just need to set up plenty of scenes like this, along with making you emotionally invested in between.
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Re: Godzilla: The Look

Postby Megaton17 » Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:31 am

Gyaos wrote:Came across this on DeviantART

http://the-great-mm.deviantart.com/#/d4ple8v

Personally, I dig the design (Awesome picture too)


Love this design.

The electric breath weapon seems off though. I've always wanted to see a monster that uses bioelectricity like an eel, but it doesn't work for Godzilla. I could see Godzilla using some kind of organic napalm though.

It also looks like Godzilla is injured in this picture.

Otherwise, this is awesome and I'd definitely want to see something like this in the new film.
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Re: Godzilla: The Look

Postby Legion1979 » Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:05 am

I don't like Godzilla having a color separation on his chest and stomach like that.
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Re: Godzilla: The Look

Postby SuperSaiyan4Godzilla » Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:07 am

Speaking biologically, Godzilla's beam would look closer to a bolt of lightning or similar to that beam. There's a high chance that his beam would be some form of bioelectrogenesis. Some radioactive gas he generates could be ionized and released through an electric current he generates.

Could be. I've been fiddling around with plasma generation myself.

Legion1979 wrote:I don't like Godzilla having a color separation on his chest and stomach like that.


I like it. It gives him a bit of a more natural feel. A lighter color underbelly makes sense on an amphibious creature.
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Re: Godzilla: The Look

Postby Legion1979 » Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:11 am

SuperSaiyan4Godzilla wrote:
I like it. It gives him a bit of a more natural feel. A lighter color underbelly makes sense on an amphibious creature.


LOL But since when does Godzilla actually make sense? I don't think Godzilla should be made to look realistic in such a scientific way. I think one of the worst things anyone could do with Godzilla is to over-analyze what makes him work and try to present him in as scientifically/biologically accurate a way as possible. Godzilla shouldn't look naural, because nothing about him is natural. I guess we'll just wait and see what LP ends up doing.
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Re: Godzilla: The Look

Postby SuperSaiyan4Godzilla » Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:42 am

Legion1979 wrote:
SuperSaiyan4Godzilla wrote:
I like it. It gives him a bit of a more natural feel. A lighter color underbelly makes sense on an amphibious creature.


LOL But since when does Godzilla actually make sense? I don't think Godzilla should be made to look realistic in such a scientific way. I think one of the worst things anyone could do with Godzilla is to over-analyze what makes him work and try to present him in as scientifically/biologically accurate a way as possible. Godzilla shouldn't look naural, because nothing about him is natural. I guess we'll just wait and see what LP ends up doing.


I never quite understood the idea of "Well, since this is impossible, lets make it totally in left field" philosophy with design. Its part of the reason why I don't like half of the Tsuburaya Ultraman creations.

And if I wanted him to look completely natural, I'd suggest this:

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But that's not what I suggested, is it?

I merely suggested that Godzilla have a natural coloration.

I'll just say it now: the idea that "Godzilla isn't natural, therefore, he should look as unnatural as possible" is a totally dipshit excuse. Its covering up a lack of creativity, a lack of critical thought, and/or a conservative mindset that hinders ideas. I've no qualms if you don't like the concept, but your reasoning is totally unfounded. Hell, Godzilla may not be natural, but doing things as unnatural as possible is just a bad idea. You have to create a believable narrative and sequence for a film. Therefore, in a Godzilla narrative, he should at least reflect some type natural law present in the narrative.

In fact, it has been done in the Godzilla films before. Heisei Godzilla's all-black coloration fits in for the swimming and deep sea reptile that he was. Its hard to see a black creature in the dark abyss.
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Re: Godzilla: The Look

Postby Tohosaurus » Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:43 am

Gyaos wrote:Came across this on DeviantART

http://the-great-mm.deviantart.com/#/d4ple8v

Personally, I dig the design (Awesome picture too)

I like the picture, but as a Godzilla design it doesn't work for me personally. At least in this picture, that design looks too much like a glorified lizard.
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Re: Godzilla: The Look

Postby Legion1979 » Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:48 am

SuperSaiyan4Godzilla wrote:I'll just say it now: the idea that "Godzilla isn't natural, therefore, he should look as unnatural as possible" is a totally dipshit excuse.


But...that's not what anyone is saying. Just because there are people saying Godzilla doesn't have to be designed from a very realistic scientific/biological standpoint doesn't mean they want want something that veers off too far in the opposite direction either. It doesn't have to be so black and white.
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Re: Godzilla: The Look

Postby Petezilla » Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:12 pm

This. Godzilla always was an unexplainable being and thus he doesn't need to be designed too reasonably, that just results in another Gino, just like too many designs shown here already do. He's a monster after all. Monsters aren't realistically explainable. That's what makes them monstrous, basically. We neither want a T-Rex ripoff nor a giant Pinocchio with a huge hammer, but some kind of freaking, spikey dinosaur with humanoid stance, because that's what always made Godzilla recognizeable as Godzilla. And one can do so much with just this basic formula.
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Re: Godzilla: The Look

Postby TokyoVigilante » Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:19 pm

That doesn't mean you can't add naturalistic or biological flourishes. I've expressed several times that I think giving Godzilla some minor webbing between his fingers and toes would emphasize his amphibious nature. One of the things I love about the '62 suit are the beefy, thick arms. If you web those, they could reasonably be seen as very primitive fins, like a transitional animal might have. The Ambulocetidae had similar arms and they were the transitional animal between land animals and whales.

This is all perfectly natural and perfectly faithful design ideas taken from information we are told in the much hailed and beloved first film.

Building a Godzilla from the ground up to be realistic is where you get stupid things like Godzillasaurus Rex; but taking the standard design and adding flourishes and justifying its current design elements with science and emphasizing those is the way to go.
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Re: Godzilla: The Look

Postby NSZ » Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:27 pm

TokyoVigilante wrote:That doesn't mean you can't add naturalistic or biological flourishes. I've expressed several times that I think giving Godzilla some minor webbing between his fingers and toes would emphasize his amphibious nature. One of the things I love about the '62 suit are the beefy, thick arms. If you web those, they could reasonably be seen as very primitive fins, like a transitional animal might have. The Ambulocetidae had similar arms and they were the transitional animal between land animals and whales.

This is all perfectly natural and perfectly faithful design ideas taken from information we are told in the much hailed and beloved first film.

Building a Godzilla from the ground up to be realistic is where you get stupid things like Godzillasaurus Rex; but taking the standard design and adding flourishes and justifying its current design elements with science and emphasizing those is the way to go.


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Re: Godzilla: The Look

Postby Giga Kaiju » Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:42 pm

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He looks fresh, something the movie needs to show. Somethings can be changed but he looks ok
the Atomic Ray (or Electro Ray in this case) is cool but i prefer how it looks as it is a Ray instead
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Re: Godzilla: The Look

Postby HeiseiGodzilla117 » Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:02 pm

The only thing I REALLY like about that design is the color scheme. I'd be all for those colors on LP's Godzilla.
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