Worries about the film.

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Re: Worries about the film.

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:03 pm

Gojira21 wrote:I dont see how the worry that this be like GINO necessary. Unlike, Devlin and Emmerich who said they wanted a newer, realistic looking Godzilla, Edwards has stated times over again that they are going to stay truthful to the original and have classic design, e.t.c.


Plenty of other filmmakers have said the same thing about other famous movie franchises, yet still made products which fans hated, for example, the Star Wars prequels, Star Trek (2009), Terminator 3 and Terminator: Salvation, Spider-Man 3, etc.

In all of these films, and more, the filmmakers said the same things Edwards is saying at the moment, yet those films were not loved by all fans. So, history has shown that just because Edwards is saying he's going to stay truthful to the original does not necessarily mean the product is going to be good or that fans will love it. This is especially true when Hollywood tries to do an updated version of originals.
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Re: Worries about the film.

Postby Gojira21 » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:07 pm

Well...you got me there lol BUT...the only reason why i believe this time it be different is specifically because of Toho. I highly doubt they would want a repeat of Tristars disaster to happen again and bring more shame to their proud creation.
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Re: Worries about the film.

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:10 pm

Gojira21 wrote:Well...you got me there lol BUT...the only reason why i believe this time it be different is specifically because of Toho. I highly doubt they would want a repeat of Tristars disaster to happen again and bring more shame to their proud creation.


And how does Toho know that exactly? Are they physic? Can they predict the future and know this won't be repeat of what happened with GINO? Because, from what I've seen, this film can still go either way. It could be good for the franchise and revitalize it, or it could be bad and ridicule the franchise. We don't know yet and neither does Toho.
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Re: Worries about the film.

Postby Gawdziller » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:18 pm

Gojira21 wrote:Well...you got me there lol BUT...the only reason why i believe this time it be different is specifically because of Toho. I highly doubt they would want a repeat of Tristars disaster to happen again and bring more shame to their proud creation.


It could be argued that Toho already repeated it with Final Wars...
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Re: Worries about the film.

Postby Gojira-Fan » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:24 pm

My main worry would Edwards not receiving enough creative control and just being hired because he would be easier to manipulate by the producers.
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Re: Worries about the film.

Postby Hellspawn28 » Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:33 pm

GotengoXGodzilla wrote: Star Trek V


Fixed that for you ;). I'm worry about that most major films in 2014 will over shadow this film. Yeah Godzilla is popular but I don't think Godzilla is strong enough to have the same targeted audience that Harry Potter, Transformers, Hunger Games, and Marvel Superheros have. GINO was the third highest grossing movie of 1998 because 1998 didn't had million sequels and comic book movies coming out that year. I want LPG to be one of the top 10 highest grossing movies of 2014.
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Re: Worries about the film.

Postby Godzilla165 » Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:17 pm

Well, there really isn't anything to worry about, when we don't have alot of news ;). Besides, I have complete faith in Gareth Edwards, to bring us a truely awesome, and epic reboot.
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Re: Worries about the film.

Postby JVM » Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:26 pm

I worry that this film will be made, period.
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Re: Worries about the film.

Postby XxComablack1937xX » Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:35 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:
GotengoXGodzilla wrote: Star Trek V


Fixed that for you ;). I'm worry about that most major films in 2014 will over shadow this film. Yeah Godzilla is popular but I don't think Godzilla is strong enough to have the same targeted audience that Harry Potter, Transformers, Hunger Games, and Marvel Superheros have. GINO was the third highest grossing movie of 1998 because 1998 didn't had million sequels and comic book movies coming out that year. I want LPG to be one of the top 10 highest grossing movies of 2014.


I'm sure that's what Legendary want's to happen too, but being realistic this is the first Godzilla film is 10 years, an it's coming off of a Really bad Reboot from 1998.

Godzilla doesn't need to be one of the highest grossing films to be a success or get a sequel... Batman Begins was in the same position as Godzilla is now... an it was far from a major success (not a flop either) an now look at the franchise. I'm sure there hoping Godzilla will at-least hit the 400$ million mark, an as long as they don't pull a ''John Carter'' with a seriously ridiculous budget they should make a profit.
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Re: Worries about the film.

Postby Jacob Kaiju X » Sat Jul 21, 2012 9:45 pm

off topic: Why do some people hate the Star Trek reboot anyway?

On-Topic: I have pretty much the fear of the movie not being good or too focus on the human characters. Not saying it has to be monster action all the way through, but I don't want the action to be only minutes long towards the end. I'm also fearful that this movie could easily turn into another GINO or worst off, a KOM.
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Re: Worries about the film.

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:25 pm

Why do some people hate the Star Trek reboot anyway?


I personally don't hate it, but I know lots of Star Trek fans hate Star Trek (2009), because it resets the universe they know and love. It basically made it so the Original Series, The Next Generation, Deep Space 9, Voyager and all of the movies don't happen exactly how they happened originally. The only thing that wasn't effected was Enterprise, which most fans consider to be the worst Star Trek series. That would be like if there were a Godzilla movie where MechaGodzilla goes back in time to 1954 and kills Godzilla before he destroys Tokyo. It messes up everything and makes it so that nothing is ever the same.

On top of that, Star Trek is an incredibly unoriginal movie. I've seen someone go plot point by plot point of Star Trek and showed it is nearly identical to Star Wars: A New Hope. As such, most don't see it as a "Star Trek" movie. And, to be honest, as a "Star Trek" movie, Star Trek (2009) does suck. As an ordinary movie though, I find it to be enjoyable. It's when you add in the Star Trek mythos where things get bad. It feels like an space-action movie with the name "Star Trek" slapped on to make more money.

As a Star Trek movie, it sucks. As a regular movie, its good. I think Linkara summarized it up best: "It's the best Star Wars movie I've ever seen!"
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Re: Worries about the film.

Postby Hellspawn28 » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:19 am

Most fans that I talk to and seen enjoy the newest Star Trek movie. The people who hate it are the really nitpicky fans since Star Trek V and Insurrection are much worst IMO. As long Godzilla gets good reviews and does well at the box office then that's what Legendary most likely cares about. The Terminator sequels after T2 and Spider-Man 3 didn't do that well because they had weak stories.
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Re: Worries about the film.

Postby Mincecraft » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:11 am

I got a new worry.

That the fandom won't give this movie a chance.
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Re: Worries about the film.

Postby Gawdziller » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:11 am

Everyone I know loves the new Trek movie. Fans and non-fans alike.

Even I'm an angry Trek nerd, and I had a blast watching it.
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Re: Worries about the film.

Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:17 am

To be honest, I don't see the hate. Its like the Ultimate universe version of the Star Trek universe. Its a different take on the world with its own sort of canon.

Godzilla films do this consistently. So having changes like that in the newer film wouldn't be a big deal at all.

I'm honestly worried that we won't get monster battles. This was something that I was looking forward to. I like Gareth Edwards's idea, but I don't know if I want a doom and gloom Godzilla film for the entire time.
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Re: Worries about the film.

Postby Gyaos » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:19 am

^ But didnt they explicitly say that there will be monster battles? Heck in the trailer theres a dead centepede monster that Godzilla killed.
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Re: Worries about the film.

Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:21 am

The centipede is something I've only seen mentioned on this site. I'm not sure how viable that is.

And they never really said. They hinted at it years ago, but I was just concerned that the direction Edwards hinted at might exclude this
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Re: Worries about the film.

Postby Gyaos » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:27 am

Well Edwards said that this film is going to be nothing like GINO and the problems it had. One of the problems was that GINO had no monster to fight, and thats typically what we want Godzilla to do: To blow stuff up and to kick another monster's ass. So it's safe to assume Godzilla is going to fight another monster.
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Re: Worries about the film.

Postby Hellspawn28 » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:41 am

GotengoXGodzilla wrote:. It basically made it so the Original Series, The Next Generation, Deep Space 9, Voyager and all of the movies don't happen exactly how they happened originally.


But the movie was a reboot, it was supposed to a fresh start so that the movie can sell more to a bigger target audience. Star Trek before 2009 was pretty much a dead series since Star Trek Nemesis did poorly at the box office and fans hated the movie. And that even Enterprise didn't last that long neither. I remember SF Debris saying in his review that Nemesis was showing the series age and that people didn't care for the series anymore by 2002. I think with JJ's new film then Star Trek would have never made people more interested with the franchise. I hope Godzilla does the same that if the movie does well enough then it could spawn new fans of the franchise.
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Re: Worries about the film.

Postby Sav » Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:58 am

GotengoXGodzilla wrote:The second worry is Gareth Edwards himself. Namely, the guy has very little experience. He's made one indie movie. To me, it's not a good sign they're giving someone who never really worked with Hollywood before so much control over such a big film. It's like in a financial business, if someone from a low level position was suddenly promoted to the head of the company. And that worries me.

Yeah, he's going from indie films to filming Godzilla with 3D cameras..

I hope he nails it out of the park though.
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