Anyone else kind of like the FW version of Zilla?

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Re: Anyone else kind of like the GFW version of Zilla?

Postby GodzillaDude » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:18 pm

Godzillakuj94 wrote:
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Goji wrote:They're simply not that different. Zilla is "cooler" in that he wasn't a chicken shit, actually had an atomic ray (which he didn't even get to use in FINAL WARS), and a 'fighting spirit'. However, the CGI used for Zilla in FINAL WARS was a lot cheaper looking than what was used for GINO (for reasons already explained by Hellspawn).

Zilla's finest hour was in the cartoon series. It had a good run, but it's a shame it didn't last longer.


The only version of Zilla that truly had a form of an Atomic Ray/Breath was Zilla Jr./Toonzilla in the animated series. The animated series was a good show I agree. I own a few DVDs of it. There is a chance Zilla can appear again in a Toho/kaiju film at least in a cameo role. I understand that the main reason they had him in Final Wars was for him to be defeated by the Japanese Godzilla but Toho has brought back their kaiju characters from the dead before. You will probably see Zilla in a video game, he was going to be in Godzilla Unleashed but they pulled him out so there is a decent chance they will have him in the next Godzilla fighter game. I guess what I'm trying to say is that Zilla doesn't deserve all the bashing he gets which is mainly due to many people still thinking of him as an attempt for a new version of Godzilla. Once you get that thought out of your head and start thinking of Zilla both in GINO and Final Wars he is a pretty cool monster/kaiju.

The director said that FW Zilla had acidic fire.


Oh yeah I forgot about that.

Living Corpse wrote:My thoughts on this guy.

Well at least he managed to jump over the first atomic breath and cause more damage to Sydney in 2 minutes then what GINO did to New York in the whole 2 hour film. Hell the army and air force caused more damage to New York in G'98 then GINO.


Very good points indeed. It shows FW Zilla had very good reflexes and a killer jumping ability that is better than most if not all kaiju. FW ZIlla also seemed to be less cowardly or at least more aggressive than GINO. I would love to see how FW Zilla would handle another kaiju that is weaker than Godzilla.
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Re: Anyone else kind of like the GFW version of Zilla?

Postby Living Corpse » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:38 pm

Have him fight GMK Baragon and we might have a fun "runt of the litter" styled match.
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Re: Anyone else kind of like the GFW version of Zilla?

Postby Tyler » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:18 pm

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Godzillakuj94 wrote:The director said that FW Zilla had acidic fire.


Oh yeah I forgot about that.


When was this?
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Re: Anyone else kind of like the GFW version of Zilla?

Postby edgaguirus » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:04 pm

And why did we not see it used?
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Re: Anyone else kind of like the GFW version of Zilla?

Postby GodzillaDude » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:28 pm

I remember reading somewhere that the director said FW Zilla had sort of an acid fire breath which he used to take down that tower when he first appeared in Final Wars. It's debatable though.
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Re: Anyone else kind of like the GFW version of Zilla?

Postby Goji » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:37 pm

That's the first I've heard of that..in 8 years.

I'm going to assume it's some kind of wikipedia-sourced lie that some fan made up.
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Re: Anyone else kind of like the GFW version of Zilla?

Postby GodzillaDude » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:39 pm

Goji wrote:That's the first I've heard of that..in 8 years.

I'm going to assume it's some kind of wikipedia-sourced lie that some fan made up.


It could very well be. I don't really think it's true I just read it somewhere awhile ago.
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Re: Anyone else kind of like the GFW version of Zilla?

Postby Ethan » Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:23 pm

Godzilla 2000 wrote:I like Zilla in the sense that he is now his own monster, instead of a bad Godzilla imitation.

It's funny when you think about it; GINO will never go away, and Zilla will never come back.

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I'm not sure what do you mean by this, neither of them will come back.
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Re: Anyone else kind of like the GFW version of Zilla?

Postby Godzilla 2000 » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:55 pm

Ethan wrote:
Godzilla 2000 wrote:I like Zilla in the sense that he is now his own monster, instead of a bad Godzilla imitation.

It's funny when you think about it; GINO will never go away, and Zilla will never come back.

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I'm not sure what do you mean by this, neither of them will come back.


GINO (as in, the atrocity that was G98) will never go away, no matter how much we try to forget it existed. It cant be erased from Godzilla's history.

And Zilla obviously wont return because, well, it's Zilla (even though some people actually do want this one to come back).
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Re: Anyone else kind of like the GFW version of Zilla?

Postby GodzillaDude » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:36 am

Toho Zilla is a lot more likely than other characters to come back like for example Gabara, Giant Condor, Toho's Kong, Mechani-Kong right off the top of my head. I'm not saying I guarantee that Toho Zilla will come back I'm just saying he is more possible than others.
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Re: Anyone else kind of like the FW version of Zilla?

Postby Goji » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:07 am

..Not really. If anything, his appearance in any future Godzilla-related films would only amount to a cameo like it was in FINAL WARS, and even that's stretching it big time.

The difference between him and the monsters you mentioned is that Zilla is another version of Godzilla, and not (necessarily) an opponent of the Japanese Godzilla. Him appearing in anything but a 'mish mash' type of film like FINAL WARS or DESTROY ALL MONSTERS simply wouldn't make any sense.

Again, if he makes any more appearances, it will be regulated to things like video games, card games, comics, etc. The odds of him making another film appearance are astronomically low.
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Re: Anyone else kind of like the FW version of Zilla?

Postby Chompamunchasaurus » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:28 am

Poor Zilla was a lightweight hit and run kaiju (like Kamakuras) and the Xiliens sent him on a suicide attack against Godzilla. I'm sure it will never happen, but Zillas may be pack kaiju, like there were at least three Showa kamakuras. And since the original GINO laid hundreds of eggs it could even have been some kind of hive queen. And it's dead. No more hive. My ideas self-destruct as usual.
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Re: Anyone else kind of like the FW version of Zilla?

Postby GodzillaDude » Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:55 pm

Goji wrote:..Not really. If anything, his appearance in any future Godzilla-related films would only amount to a cameo like it was in FINAL WARS, and even that's stretching it big time.

The difference between him and the monsters you mentioned is that Zilla is another version of Godzilla, and not (necessarily) an opponent of the Japanese Godzilla. Him appearing in anything but a 'mish mash' type of film like FINAL WARS or DESTROY ALL MONSTERS simply wouldn't make any sense.

Again, if he makes any more appearances, it will be regulated to things like video games, card games, comics, etc. The odds of him making another film appearance are astronomically low.


I would be happy with another Zilla cameo in a Toho movie. I still think there is a good chance he will appear in a Godzilla fighting game considering he was almost put into Unleashed and he has more fans than he did a few years ago. I prefer the Final Wars version of Zilla due to him seeming more brave or at least more aggressive and he seemed even more agile than before as he jumped over the first Atomic Ray and got a great height and distance with it which is even better than other kaiju.
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Re: Anyone else kind of like the FW version of Zilla?

Postby Ethan » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:03 pm

Godzilla 2000 wrote:GINO (as in, the atrocity that was G98) will never go away, no matter how much we try to forget it existed. It cant be erased from Godzilla's history.

No film can be erased from history, regardless its quality. GINO however, will stop being the only American film to bear the character's name.
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Re: Anyone else kind of like the GFW version of Zilla?

Postby Hellspawn28 » Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:36 pm

Tyler wrote:GINO's starting to show its age


I think the CG for G98 still holds up and it still looks good. The detail on GINO looks good, the CG does not look super outdated and fake looking like the CG in Spawn or Mortal Kombat: Annihilation for example.
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Re: Anyone else kind of like the FW version of Zilla?

Postby edgaguirus » Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:47 pm

It's not outdated..yet. Ten years from now, people will look at CG and wonder why it looks so fake, though.
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Re: Anyone else kind of like the FW version of Zilla?

Postby Hellspawn28 » Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:54 pm

Not to mention the film is only 14 years old. It's not even that old of a film, the CG still looks better then the CG in the CG in The Avengers (The movie based on the old UK show) and Star Trek: Insurrection which also came out the same year. GINO uses both CG and practical effects which is why it looks good in my opinion.
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Re: Anyone else kind of like the FW version of Zilla?

Postby GodzillaDude » Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:32 pm

Okay guys we are getting a bit off track here. My main thoughts being that alone Zilla is a cool kaiju and he doesn't deserve all the hate he gets.
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Re: Anyone else kind of like the FW version of Zilla?

Postby Chompamunchasaurus » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:16 pm

Zilla also teaches us a lesson. Never, ever start a fight with someone whose name is like yours but with "God" as a prefix.
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Re: Anyone else kind of like the FW version of Zilla?

Postby edgaguirus » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:33 pm

" Ray, next time someone tells you his name is god------, you run like heck."
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