How Did The Xillians Controll King Caesar?

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How Did The Xillians Controll King Caesar?

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In Godzilla: Final Wars King Caesar was one of the monsters being controlled, but is that even possible? The Xillians controlled the monsters by screwing with their DNA, but King Caesar should'nt even have DNA, he's a golem! A giant rock! How did they controll him?
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It's a different version. Just like how Heisei King Ghidorah and Showa King Ghidorah are different.
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Yeah, for all we know Final Wars KC might be a golem from Planet X. Or a different type of being all together... that might explain the different eyes.
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I love it how, to this day, some fans can't grasp the concept of more than one continuity in the series.
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TokyoVigilante wrote:It's a different version. Just like how Heisei King Ghidorah and Showa King Ghidorah are different.
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Thank you....
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Admittedly, I used to think all the films were connected; but that was several years ago, when I was maybe 10 or 12, and before I really started using the internet.

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SuperSaiyan4Godzilla wrote:
Legion1979 wrote:
Ethan wrote:I love it how, to this day, some fans can't grasp the concept of more than one continuity in the series.
If you've seen only half the Godzilla movies, you've seen enough to know that there are multiple continuities. Bizarre.
FALSE

The Showa series consists of 15 films. There are 28 films in the Japanese Godzilla series. If you know your multiplication and division, you know that 14 is half of 28.

Therefore, with over half of the series consisting of one universe, there is a reasonable chance that a fan may only know of one continuity.

Therefore, your statement is invalid.
Godzilla's Revenge is technically a dream sothat in itself is its own continuity ;) .

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Oooooh I dont want ro hear anything about Godzillas Revenge, that kid humped a vehicle, and He acted like he just drank a bunch of freaking Nyquill! And who in the hell was Godzilla getting revenge on anyway?
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GODZILLA'S REVENGE was simply a U.S. title. The film was originally released in the U.S. under the title "MINYA:SON OF GODZILLA". (Godzilla artist Bob Eggleton even saw a print under this title in his youth), but it failed to make an impact, so it was re-released under the title GODZILLA'S REVENGE, in an attempt to lure people to theaters. No existing prints of with the original "MINYA" title are known to exist. Not even the elusive Baradagi owns a print of that version.
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It makes sense, thanx for the info :)
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The GFW Caesar is a different version of the Showa one. Remember that directors and producers take liberties with characters and timelines when it's convenient for the plot.
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Geezus, lighten up, Legion.
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Cant we all just get along?
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Primevalgodzilla V2 wrote:Geezus, lighten up, Legion.
His was a perfectly valid response to a completely ridiculous post.

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Primevalgodzilla V2 wrote:Geezus, lighten up, Legion.
Uh, no. That doesn't even apply.
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Patrick Alan wrote:In Godzilla: Final Wars King Caesar was one of the monsters being controlled, but is that even possible? The Xillians controlled the monsters by screwing with their DNA, but King Caesar should'nt even have DNA, he's a golem! A giant rock! How did they controll him?
A lot of fans make the mistake of trying to make everything fit between the films, and get confused or have a lot of questions when they don't fit. And that's understandable, because American TV shows and film series generally maintain some kind of continuity with recurring characters and (more or less) consistent storylines, history, etc.

But Japanese studios and audiences often have a different approach. Rather than maintain continuity from one season to the next, popular TV franchises like Ultraman, Sentai or Kamen Rider will reinvent themselves over and over... they'll take the basic concept and create new characters and stories separate from what has gone before. This allows them to maintain a successful franchise while not being locked to everything about it, and the creative teams and audiences seem to like it that way.

Toho has generally treated Godzilla and their other monster/FX films the same way. When Tanaka, Honda, Tsuburaya etc were making the early films they just wanted to make each movie as good and profitable as possible. Continuity was not a concern, and the filmmakers would just pick what they wanted to use and discard what they didn't. So monsters would die and come back; they would be different sizes or change their appearance, all without explanation. Godzilla is hurt by electricity in some films, powered by it in other movies, and unaffected in others. Minya doesn't age between 1967-1999. One of the Mothra larvae goes missing. And so on and so on. Some fans want explanations, but in most cases there aren't official answers because this stuff didn't matter to Toho.

The only time Toho really focused on continuity was with the Heisei series. Some American fans seem to love the tight continuity in those films, but the filmmakers complained that having to make everything fit was a hindrance. On the other hand, some American fans complain that the constant rebooting in the Millennium Series was confusing, but Japanese fans and filmmakers grew up with this style so it wasn't an issue.

I think these films are less frustrating and more enjoyable if you take them as intended. Trying to force them into being what they're not is a fool's errand because there's no real answer for most continuity questions to be found in the context of the stories. You have to step back and look at the filmmakers' options and choices to best understand why something was done for a specific film.

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Well going back to the original post, there's no way to get Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla and Godzilla Final Wars mixed up. For instance, in Kitamura's film it's made clear that the Xilliens' attack is the first alien invasion on Earth.
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Oh you two. I mean, you're both intelligent, productive members, why are you so bitter to each other?
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