How Did The Xillians Controll King Caesar?

[Cimmerian Dragon]

I'm the opposite. Mothra, Daimajin...I love 'em all. Plus, I've always gotten a kick out of combining magic and sci-fi. That's why I wish we'd seen Godzilla go up against a genuine demon or devil at some point.

[Living Corpse]

I'm the opposite. Mothra, Daimajin...I love 'em all. Plus, I've always gotten a kick out of combining magic and sci-fi. That's why I wish we'd seen Godzilla go up against a genuine demon or devil at some point.

Gabera could have easily filled the oni role had Toho thought of it at the time.

[Patrick Alan]

Oh that Gabara...

[Megalon-5]

Honestly, if they ever do bring Gabara back, I'd love to see him return as an oni. It'd be cool (in my opinion) to see him come back as a traditional Japanese demon.

[Chompamunchasaurus]

I for some reason, have gotten this sense that people don't want dieties in their kaiju films (with the exception of Daimajin)...

I don't like dieties. What gives some cosmic entity the right to tell me what to eat?

[King Caesar]

Honestly, if they ever do bring Gabara back, I'd love to see him return as an oni. It'd be cool (in my opinion) to see him come back as a traditional Japanese demon.

Gabara probably has the closest resemblance to a traditional Oni out of the entire kaiju crew. Now, let's say Gabara does come back as an Oni. It would be an interesting idea to throw in King Caesar as a defender. But the. Does how Godzilla fit in? Reluctant hero (Anti-Hero)? Villain? It's debatable, but a really cool idea that I think Toho should probably take up if they make another Godzilla movie.

[Megalon-5]

I could easily see a heroic or anti-hero Godzilla joining forces with King Caesar against a redone Gabara. Like they could tie in Gabara's story to Caesar's story about defeating a monster and then when Gabara reawakens and Godzilla tangles with him, the Shisa wakes up to aid the Big G. I think it'd make a neat idea for a film, but I have a feeling Toho isn't gonna go for it sadly.

[hammysammy59]

Yeah, I was just going to say, if you wanted to reinvent Gabara as a traditional Japanese demon, it almost seems like a requirement that you'd have to bring in King Caesar too... jeez, not to fan-fic out, but here's how I'd do this movie: basically make it like a remix of Ghidrah the Three-Headed Monster (with shades of GMK). In Ghidrah's villain role you have the destructive Godzilla, and in the roles of Godzilla and Rodan (constantly battling each other instead of focusing on the real threat) you have the revamped Gabara and King Caesar. The two traditional/Japanese monsters realize they're being idiots, and join forces to drive the atomic mutant Godzilla off their homeland.

On a vaguely-related tangent, now that I know more about what he's based on, I wish Toho would have made KC's official international name King Shisa. OH WELL

[Megalon-5]

Toho really should've called him King Shisa. The Caesar/Seesar naming seemed really random to me until I learned his roots in Japanese legend.

Also, for the hypothetical Godzilla X Gabara X King Caesar, perhaps Manda could be thrown in as the fourth monster

[King Caesar]

^ Is there any reason behind it besides personal preference? I'm all for it, but I'm just curious.

[Megalon-5]

I think a trio of an Oni, Shisa and Oriental Dragon would make for an interesting group of monsters working together. That's basically my reasoning behind it.

[King Caesar]

Works for me. I feel like we might've drifted away from the topic a little bit. In the good way.

[hammysammy59]

Real talk: GKCG (Godzilla, King Caesar, Gabara) would have been cooler than GAV (Godzilla, Anguius, Varan). That said, it was nice to see Baragon come back.

[Megalon-5]

Yeah it was nice to see Baragon come back in GMK. Although I would've loved to see GAV, a GGK movie would've made more sense and it'd would've been an interesting way to bring King Caesar and Gabara back.

[skuzzy-punk-kid]

From my understanding, the Showa, Heisei and the Shinsei are 3 separate continuities. The Showa films did follow a set continuity. The notable exception would be Destroy All Monsters; it's time period being set at 1999, 27 years after the events of Godzilla vs. Gigan...despite the fact DAM being filmed roughly 5 years before GvG. But, for all intents and purposes, DAM is still in the Showa continuity.
The Heisei was supposed to be a reboot of the Godzilla franchise altogether; Godzilla 1985 was intended to be a sequel to the original Godzilla. Each subsequent Heisei film followed the same continuity established in Godzilla 1985. One shred of proof for this being the growing up of Godzilla Jr., and the development of the first G-Force mechas following the template of Mecha King Ghidorah.
The Shinsei, on the other hand, each and every film in the Shinsei series was supposed to be a direct sequel to the original Godzilla; each one having no connection to the preceding movie; the notable exceptions being Godzilla x MechaGodzilla and Godzilla: Tokyo S.O.S., those 2 followed their own continuity, again following the events of the original Godzilla.

[Legion1979]

The Showa films did follow a set continuity.

Not really. They all star the same Godzilla, and you can link up several of the movies. But I wouldn't say the series follows a "set continuity".

The Shinsei, on the other hand, each and every film in the Shinsei series was supposed to be a direct sequel to the original Godzilla

That's not exactly true. They all use the basics of the original film as a jumping-off point, but I wouldn't say they're direct sequels, especially since GxM and GxMG change the ending of the original film.

[Ethan]

When I watch a film, I try to enjoy the monsters breaking things. Continuity with other movies is the least of my concerns.

[skuzzy-punk-kid]

Not really. They all star the same Godzilla, and you can link up several of the movies.

That the specific continuity I was referring to. They are not following the human storyline, which is different in every Showa movie. The events of the kaiju battles has an semi-direct consequence which leads into the next movie; for example: Godzilla in GRA being trapped in a glacier...for Godzilla to appear again from the glacier in KKvG, to be cast into the sea and wash up with the silt in Godzilla vs. Mothra. Maybe I used the 'set continuity' words out of context, but what you said was (again) the specific continuity I was referring to.

That's not exactly true. They all use the basics of the original film as a jumping-off point, but I wouldn't say they're direct sequels, especially since GxM and GxMG change the ending of the original film.

Okay, I take it back; they're INDIRECT sequels to the original Godzilla. Again, I apologize for using words out of context, but what you said...

They all use the basics of the original film as a jumping-off point

...was exactly what I had intended to say in the first place.

[Killswitch]

Some things are just better off not being explained!

[edgaguirus]

In the words of MST3K...

" Tell yourself it's just a show, so sit back and relax."