gamera vs godzilla & 60th anniversity flim

[Legion1979]

45 YEARS. FORTY. FIVE.

*a-hem*

Damn, you're right. Still, that's a long time too.

If they ever do it, there's no way they can end the movie with one beating the other. Godzilla can't beat Gamera because Gamera WILL be the good guy, and Gamera can't beat Godzilla because....he's Godzilla. So, throw in Gyaos and King Ghidorah and we could make this crossover work.

Yup.

[miguelnuva]

Gamera was not a good guy in the 90's movie he protects the earth not the people thus Gamera could end up being a villian while godzilla could take a showa style role.

Plus Godzilla vs gamera would be like wwe againts tna. Tna has a huge fanbase but its the wwe their going to win same with godzilla and gamera I don't know anyone where I live that knows gamera but me but almost everyone has seen atleast one godzilla movie.

[Tyler]

Would anybody else agree that Gamera has gotten better over time while Godzilla has only become mediocre?

[Kuroneko-sama]

^Yes, I would have to say that, overall, the Gamera films have gotten better over the years, even though the last film, Gamera the Brave didn't do as well as the Heisei films did. I think Gamera had more to work with: less films and a mediocre Showa track record gave plenty of opportunity to experiment and break barriers. With Godzilla, there isn't that much luxury.

Godzilla vs. Gamera wouldn't hold for an entire movie. Like as not, the two may eventually clash, but I think that they would end up teaming together to combat a much bigger threat, most likely some Gyaos hybrid or King Ghidorah or even both if it came down to it. I can see Godzilla and Gamera clashing at first, but not for entire movie. That just wouldn't do well at all. King Kong going up against Godzilla was fine, and I think a rematch would be great, but you can't use that same kind of formula if you were to put Godzilla and Gamera in the same film. Gamera would inevitably end up being a heroic figure - the only times Gamera was seen as a threat was almost always due to a misunderstanding. Look at its track record:

Daikaiju Gamera/Gammera the Invincible/Gamera: The original film, and I've seen two different American versions, one being Sandy Frank's dubbing. Gamera was set up as a villain, although this is a bit debatable, considering it saved a child. Mostly Gamera was the villain only because of the damage it created, and it needed to be stopped.

Gamera vs. Barugon: Seen as a villain only somewhat, and being more of an anti-hero than anything else. Gamera is seen dishing out destruction early in the film, but when Barugon shows up, Gamera sort of becomes the hero, although not as much as later films would later depict it.

Gamera vs. Gaos through Gamera: Super Monster: Gamera is now full-fledged hero, and the only times you see Gamera treated as a threat is mostly from the antagonist's side. Only a few times has Gamera been seen as a potential threat: Gamera vs. Viras, when Viras has Gamera under a mind control and sends it to destroy things. Gamera is not a real threat, however, and perceived as such only because of Viras. In Gamera vs. Jiger, Gamera is only momentarily seen as a threat when attempting to stop the excavation of the Devil's Whistle on Wester Island, but, there again, it is a misunderstanding, and Gamera is only trying to prevent future events - and fails.

Gamera: Guardian of the Universe, Gamera 2: Advent of Legion, Gamera 3: Incomplete Struggle: In all films, Gamera is a bit of an anti-hero, but not the villain, although it is initially perceived as such in G:GotU. The only time Gamera seems like a villain is to Ayana in G3, and that is because of her perception of events surrounding the death of her parents and blaming Gamera as a result.

Gamera the Brave: Gamera returns to being a hero, and not perceived as a villain, although still a bit of a threat (self-destruction being the primary concern).

Truthfully, while Gamera offers a great deal in giving a person freedom to experiment, the character itself would be difficult to change. I cannot see Gamera successfully being pulled off as villain, to be honest.

Toho, however, would not want to have Gamera in the same film is Godzilla, unfortunately, as evidenced by Toho's continuous refusal to have the two together. I can see from a business perspective why they would do that, although, as a fan of both franchises, it is rather disappointing. If LP can pull off this upcoming Godzilla film (and I hope they do), then we may get a crack at Gamera possibly gaining entry through LP, although this is pure conjecture and unlikely to ever occur.

Now, as far as a 60th Anniversary film, that is likely to come into play, although with the LP project going on, I couldn't say if it would be done by Toho or if LP would take the helm at that point. Toho hasn't missed any anniversary films to date, so I would think that it would churn out a Godzilla film of its own just to celebrate that. The only question would be, after the LP film and the anticipated 60th Anniversary film, where would Godzilla go from there? Dependant upon how either film would do, Godzilla may make more comebacks, or be reduced to anniversary films. Either way, I do believe that we'll get a 60th Anniversary film, and hopefully it won't end up like GFW.

[Arrow]

Would anybody else agree that Gamera has gotten better over time while Godzilla has only become mediocre?

I've been saying that for the longest time now.

[Hellspawn28]

Do you think a Godzilla vs. Gamera film would work better in the 70's when both characters where very popular at the time?

[Living Corpse]

Do you think a Godzilla vs. Gamera film would work better in the 70's when both characters where very popular at the time?

Yes. Cause back in the 70's more people knew about Gamera in the states. Talk about him around people who were old enough to have seen double creature flicks and they will say "hey I remember him, he was a flying turtle who fought this giant vampire bat and one time this lizard that shoots rainbows", but talk about it to people around our age, I know there are older members here but I'm sure most of us are either young adults or teens , and unless they are fans or even remotely into kaiju they will say "gam-who? I only know Godzilla, Rodan, Mothra, robot Godzilla and that golden dragon dude".

So yeah I think this was a missed chance, not to say they will never try it in the future but I think it would have done better in the showa days then today or the future.

Just my two cents.

[Hellspawn28]

I agree that a Showa Godzilla vs. Gamera movie would have work better back in the 70's. I can see that idea working that Godzilla & Gamera team up later on in the movie to stop Gyaos, KG, Guiron, and Megalon. I doubt Toho will make a 60th anniversity flim though.

[ZigraDude]

Do you think a Godzilla vs. Gamera film would work better in the 70's when both characters where very popular at the time?

Daiei went bankrupt in the 70's so it wouldn't have been possible.

[Hellspawn28]

Oh yeah I forgot . What about in the late 60's instend.

[Living Corpse]

Do you think a Godzilla vs. Gamera film would work better in the 70's when both characters where very popular at the time?

Daiei went bankrupt in the 70's so it wouldn't have been possible.

That's why I said the Showa days.

[omgitsgodzilla]

Yeah, Gamera's first movies never took themselves that seriously to begin with, which is why so much improvement was possible down the road. Godzilla's first movie was so good everything else was basically about which movie could be in second place. And there are just so many of them we've gotten some great ones over the years, so anything new is automatically compared to those, and seems less satisfying.

[ZigraDude]

Do you think a Godzilla vs. Gamera film would work better in the 70's when both characters where very popular at the time?

Daiei went bankrupt in the 70's so it wouldn't have been possible.

That's why I said the Showa days.

The 70's are still part of the Showa Days. But It wouldn't have been possible because Daiei went bankrupt in the 70's.

[Living Corpse]

I know, I'm just saying the 60's would have been good for Gamera vs Godzilla.

[Hellspawn28]

The 70's are still part of the Showa Days. But It wouldn't have been possible because Daiei went bankrupt in the 70's.

Then how where they able to make Gamera: The Super Monster back in 1980?

[ZigraDude]

The 70's are still part of the Showa Days. But It wouldn't have been possible because Daiei went bankrupt in the 70's.

Then how where they able to make Gamera: The Super Monster back in 1980?

They barely had any money to begin with in making Gamera Super Monster. I don't know the specifics of Daiei's history in the 80's (Maybe someone like August would go into better detail). From what I've heard, Daiei made Super Monster in hoping it would be a hit and getting out of bankruptcy, but it backfired.

[miguelnuva]

The 70's are still part of the Showa Days. But It wouldn't have been possible because Daiei went bankrupt in the 70's.

Then how where they able to make Gamera: The Super Monster back in 1980?

because it was 90% stock footage or more.

[bersek9999]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDcwa3Mx ... re=related godzilla vs gamera

[GMK Godzilla]

Godzilla vs Gamera will never happen. Why? Toho has enough kaiju of their own.

[Living Corpse]

Honestly it seems like the only way Gamera vs Godzilla will ever happen is if Toho downright buys the character and makes him part of their roster and since Gamera's current owners are not going bankrupt I don't see this happening anytime soon.