Should there be a Mecha-Godzilla 4?

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Re: Should there be a Mecha-Godzilla 4?

Postby Destroyer » Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:45 am

Goji wrote:How does it make sense for games? It doesn't make sense in any context. That's whole point.

It's dubbed "Mechagodzilla" in the film because the "MG II" title was simply used for marketing. The film was dubbed in Hong Kong in the early 90's, and the films international title is simply GODZILLA VS. MECHAGODZILLA. An English translation of the Japanese title.

Clearly, you didn't read any of my previous posts explaining this in detail. This isn't some "fan theory" of mine. It's a fact.


It makes sense cause there would have been two Mechagodzillas in Unleashed, having the II separates it. II makes sense for the normal consumer, as Legionmaster said.

I never believed it was a fan theory, I just didn't know that the international title didn't have the II.
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Re: Should there be a Mecha-Godzilla 4?

Postby Living Corpse » Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:45 am

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Goji wrote:Sony's funny.


Yeah no kidding. "Let's brighten the print for Mges. Oh shit we can see the wires, should we digitally delete them? Nah our costumers our stupid they won't notice." I mean even Sci-Fi channel wasn't that lazy, they brighten the print and deleted the wires. SCI-FI CHANNEL! :lol:

Twas terrible. OTOH, of all the contemporary films that could've had that error, at least it was Megaguirus, which was so goofy anyway that you'd almost expect it.


I like that movie, it feels like a nice throwback to Showa to me. And Megs has a wonderfully sadistic personality like when she dropped that pyrmaid bulding thing on Godzilla right after taunting him and widening her smile. >_>
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Re: Should there be a Mecha-Godzilla 4?

Postby Goji » Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:48 am

I hear that Toho had the wires digitally removed before the the theatrical release of MEGAGUIRUS. The R2 release is reflective of that.

The reason they're so visible on the R1 could be a number of factors. While people point to the brightness being the issue, I think it's entirely possible that Toho's international print of the film simply didn't receive the same wire-removal treatment, which is why they're visible. The JP version wasn't simply darkened to hide them. The wires were literally removed, as far as I remember. If the export print wasn't based on this version, then the wires were sure to show up on it no matter what medium you're watching the film on, whether it be via 35mm, or on a DVD.

The only way to be sure would be to either A) See a screening of the international version, and if the wires are still visible, then my theory is correct or B) If another country releases the international version of DVD. So far, the copies available in other countries have all been soured from the "doctored" Japanese print.

Anyways, that was waaaay off topic.

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It makes sense cause there would have been two Mechagodzillas in Unleashed, having the II separates it. II makes sense for the normal consumer, as Legionmaster said.

I never believed it was a fan theory, I just didn't know that the international title didn't have the II.


M'kay. This doesn't explain why you're so perplexed about him only being dubbed as "Mechagodzilla" in the film. This isn't a sequel to the 70's film, so why would that moniker make any sense? Logic. Use it.
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Re: Should there be a Mecha-Godzilla 4?

Postby Legionmaster » Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:48 am

Living Corpse wrote:I like that movie, it feels like a nice throwback to Showa to me. And Megs has a wonderfully sadistic personality like when she dropped that pyrmaid bulding thing on Godzilla right after taunting him and widening her smile. >_>

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Re: Should there be a Mecha-Godzilla 4?

Postby Tohosaurus » Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:50 am

In the future, games or otherwise, they should just stick to Legion1979's list of Mechagodzilla (74), Mechagodzilla II (75), UN Mechagodzilla (93) or Super Mechagodzilla with Garuda on it, and Kiryu (02-03).

Living Corpse wrote:I like that movie, it feels like a nice throwback to Showa to me. And Megs has a wonderfully sadistic personality like when she dropped that pyrmaid bulding thing on Godzilla right after taunting him and widening her smile. >_>


I liked it when it first came out back in 04 or whenever they had first released the R1 DVD, but after a few viewings it fell down the list fast to where it now ranks as one of the "worst" G films. Just my opinion though. Barry from Barry's Temple loved it and is a more dedicated fan than me, for example.
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Re: Should there be a Mecha-Godzilla 4?

Postby Living Corpse » Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:51 am

Destroyer wrote: It makes sense cause there would have been two Mechagodzillas in Unleashed, having the II separates it.


You mean three? Kiryu was in the game too and thankfully they dropped the "Mechagodzilla 3" title from STE and just call him by his code name, Kiryu.
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Re: Should there be a Mecha-Godzilla 4?

Postby Destroyer » Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:55 am

Goji wrote:M'kay. This doesn't explain why you're so perplexed about him only being dubbed as "Mechagodzilla" in the film. This isn't a sequel to the 70's film, so why would that moniker make any sense? Logic. Use it.


But I wasn't perplexed. I didn't mean for it to sound like I was perplexed, I just found it a little funny how they marketed it as II when in the film it's just MG.


You mean three? Kiryu was in the game too and thankfully they dropped the "Mechagodzilla 3" title from STE and just call him by his code name, Kiryu.


Yes, I'm glad they switched it to Kiryu.
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Re: Should there be a Mecha-Godzilla 4?

Postby Goji » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:03 am

Sometimes I swear you're G2KMaster using an alternate account..you guys seem awfully alike in posting style.


By dumbing down the names of these characters for stupid Americans, Toho is just further confusing the masses. You know, god forbid a Star Wars video game were to call the various droids by simplified names, like "Droid #2", and so on. They all have specific names (Protocal droid, astro droid, etc.), and a rich universe to work with. Godzilla is no different. The various Mechagodzilla's all deserve their own unique names, because they're all completely different, despite all being mechanical Godzilla's.

Generally, they aren't all going to appear together outside of video games, but my point still stands. G:U was the first thing to sort of get things right. The Showa incarnation had the simplified "Mechagodzilla" name. The Heisei one stuck with the "MG II name", which is nonsensical, but was the only way to distinguish it from the original (I still think simply adding a "U.N" before his name would suffice)., and then Kiryu was given his proper title.
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Re: Should there be a Mecha-Godzilla 4?

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:55 am

What's so hard about just saying Showa Mechagodzilla or Heisei Mechagodzilla? Why didn't Pipeworks just do that?
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Re: Should there be a Mecha-Godzilla 4?

Postby Living Corpse » Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:24 pm

PopInPicsPresents wrote:What's so hard about just saying Showa Mechagodzilla or Heisei Mechagodzilla? Why didn't Pipeworks just do that?


Or better yet, just Mechagodzilla and U.N. Mechagodzilla or hell give Heisei one it's Garuda and call it Super-Mechagodzilla.
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Re: Should there be a Mecha-Godzilla 4?

Postby GiganKing2 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:04 am

Well of course it should be called Super-Kiryu or MechaGodzilla 4.
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Re: Should there be a Mecha-Godzilla 4?

Postby Kiryu2012 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:57 pm

I wouldn't mind if Toho ever made a fourth Mechagodzilla. My only hope is that if they ever make one, they should make it the most Godzilla-like of them all, and be the strongest Mechagodzilla created so far.
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Re: Should there be a Mecha-Godzilla 4?

Postby miguelnuva » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:14 pm

Kiryu2012 wrote:I wouldn't mind if Toho ever made a fourth Mechagodzilla. My only hope is that if they ever make one, they should make it the most Godzilla-like of them all, and be the strongest Mechagodzilla created so far.


It's going to be hard to beat Super MechaGodzilla.
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Re: Should there be a Mecha-Godzilla 4?

Postby Kiryu2012 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:17 pm

The fourth Mechagodzilla could have armor that completly reflects energy attacks, weapons that have continuos firing rate, and excellent T&C skills.
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Re: Should there be a Mecha-Godzilla 4?

Postby Tohosaurus » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:37 pm

To each his own, but that sounds so OP it wouldn't be fun. In fact I even had that problem with Heisei MG; it took a strange fantasy plot device (Rodan's "energy sacrifice") to get Godzilla on the same playing field.
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Re: Should there be a Mecha-Godzilla 4?

Postby miguelnuva » Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:15 am

Tohosaurus wrote:To each his own, but that sounds so OP it wouldn't be fun. In fact I even had that problem with Heisei MG; it took a strange fantasy plot device (Rodan's "energy sacrifice") to get Godzilla on the same playing field.


Yeah but G-force had to go power rangers to get over Godzilla's playing field.
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Re: Should there be a Mecha-Godzilla 4?

Postby FlamingZilla23 » Sun May 06, 2012 11:47 am

Goji wrote:^ Thank you.

I'm sure he's just another butt-hurt teenie bopper who can't grasp the simple fact that he's wrong. :roll:

butt-hurt teenie bopper? :eh:

The fourth Mechagodzilla could have armor that completly reflects energy attacks, weapons that have continuos firing rate, and excellent T&C skills


Sounds almost like Mecha-Godzilla 2/Heisei.
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Re: Should there be a Mecha-Godzilla 4?

Postby PopInPicsPresents » Sun May 06, 2012 12:34 pm

Kiryu2012 wrote:The fourth Mechagodzilla could have armor that completly reflects energy attacks, weapons that have continuos firing rate, and excellent T&C skills.


If we get another Mechagodzilla, I think it should basically be Super Mechagodzilla, but give him Kiryu's back story and melee skills and have him built by aliens. Basically an amped up, alien made Kiryu.
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Re: Should there be a Mecha-Godzilla 4?

Postby KiryuDragon » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:16 am

That's an easy answer.... YES! There will also be new Mothras, new King Ghidorahs, etc.
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Re: Should there be a Mecha-Godzilla 4?

Postby antovald20 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:38 am

The new Mecha-G should have a anti-matter cannon.
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