TheSecondComing wrote:How come every single person who hates GFW can't just accept the fact that some people like it and move on? That's literally the only reason this thread is 56 pages long. Say whatever you want about it, but I like it and so do many others.
Gorosaurus Rex wrote:We've officially reached the state of examining blurry images for clues. I'll go get the Cloverfield monster and Bigfoot over here. They could really help with this.
Legion1979 wrote:BBanzai wrote: Just that the thread had returned to childish name calling.
Rody wrote:Actually, I was just going through a bunch of the old pages of this thread, and things did get pretty heated at times.
BBanzai wrote:Firstly, to kpa: you have made some excellent points regarding the movie, and Toho's expectations and errors in your last post, but I would like to point out that Kitamura-san has had a Hollywood release with Midnight Meat Train, an adaptation of a Clive Barker story, which was in pre-production stages prior to the completion, or even commencement, of LoveDeath. The issue with this movie is that it was banking on all the wrong things as well, but that is beside the point. There are currently 2 more Kitmamura films to be released through US production and distribution as well.
Godzilla 1995 wrote:*reads kpa's post*
There is a reason I respect kpa's opinion on Godzilla possibly more than any other person, and his post pretty much shows why. He is the man when it comes to Godzilla.
TheSecondComing wrote:Is GFW flawed? Absolutely. So what? Virtually every movie has flaws of some kind and in many cases they add to personal enjoyment of a movie or show.
Was it a success at the box office? Nope. So what? There's a lot of factors at play there such as over-saturation of the market, 6 Godzilla movies in 6 years is too many and the most consecutive years with a Godzilla movie since the 1960's, back when demand for monsters was much higher than it is now. If you think about it one way, there only needed to be three: Godzilla 2000 (Toho made it in part from huge fan demand to refresh the character after GINO did so much damage to it), GMK (the first metaphorical/artsy Godzilla movie in decades, which in part led to the biggest box office success in recent Godzilla history) and GFW (50th anniversary). It's entirely possible that if Toho hadn't bothered producing Megaguirus or the Kiryu duology that GFW would've been a much bigger financial success. Even though this is all my own speculation, it still begs the following question: How the heck does the argument "it didn't make any money!" interfere with my enjoyment of it? That's a damned stupid reason to hate a movie and I'd suggest that a lot of our DVD collections would be much smaller if we only liked movies that made money.
I don't have to explain why I like GFW if I don't feel like it. It should be good enough for you if I just said that I did. You can argue with me about it if you want, but that will be just as much a waste of your time, and what is infinitely more important, my time just as it has been for the last seven and a half years. I attended the world premiere and maybe that skewed my opinion of it.
But again, so what?
My screenname is TheSecondComing and I am an unabashed appreciator of Godzilla: Final Wars. I like it.
So sue me.
By all accounts Kitamura did the movie the way he wanted and is pleased with the finished film.
did the movie the way he wanted and is pleased with the finished film.
and is pleased with the finished film.
he next did a smaller film because his plans to work in Hollywood in 2005 fell through.
Ticket sales were lower than the previous year's TOKYO SOS, and the box office take was only about half the film's budget making GFW by far the biggest financial failure in the entire series.
Sony was considering a US theatrical release; after screening the film at the studio they passed on theatrical and only optioned the TV and video rights.
Toho was extremely disappointed, and sees the film as a costly mistake (they could have made three movies from the money lost on GFW's production).
While I never say never, I'd put the chances they'll ever let Kitamura direct a major Godzilla film in Japan at about 1%.
Just when it looked like some well thought out points were being made, we get the above three posts and are returned to childish name calling
Living Corpse wrote:I add nothing new to the table so feel free to just skip all my mumbling.By all accounts Kitamura did the movie the way he wanted and is pleased with the finished film.did the movie the way he wanted and is pleased with the finished film.and is pleased with the finished film.
...Why? I may not be an "expert" on film making but even I know when I've made a decent/meh/OK youtube video and when I've made a shitty youtube video.
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