Talkback: Godzilla 2000 Millennium (1999)

[Brian4205]

I remember when I got the DVD for it on Christmas when I was in 1st Grade. When I saw it then, it looked incredible (at the time, I only had Classic Media's original DVDs)

You are talking about the DVD's from 2002 or are you getting confused with the DVD's from Simitar?

I tink I was talking about the 2002 DVDs if they had a similar cover design to this one.
http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Terror-Mechagod ... 286.c0.m14

Dude, I think you got a knock off.

[Varan 1958]

What makes you think that? These were around a lot longer than the newer classic media DVDs of Godzilla. I am positive that these are NOT knockoffs so when you give me proof, I might believe your claim.

[Legion1979]

Dude, I think you got a knock off.

That's not a knockoff.

What's with the knockoff paranoia around here?

[KaneLocke]

I'm not even sure why it would matter if it was a knock-off.

But, no, it's not. I remember having that DVD a few years back.

[The Midnight Man]

This film is associated with so many good memories I can't help but have a soft spot for it. Was feeling pretty blue the first day after moving to a new city, so to cheer me up my dad took me to see Godzilla 2000. Now, this was the first time I had ever seen one of his movies on the big screen, and to see my hero on the big screen going what he did best, it pretty much made my day.

So in my eyes, it's hard to completely dismiss a movie that made an experience like that easier to cope with.

[YonggaryRGG]

I also saw this film in theaters. I have next to no memory of the experience (for instance, I didn't recognize Orga in Destroy All Monsters Melee despite having seen the film until my brother told me he was from Godzilla 2000, and even then I had to look him up on the internet to get the 411 on him), but I do remember liking the film more than I would when I next saw it again. I would see the Japanese version the next time I saw it and was very underwhelmed. The film was boring for the most part and only picked up when Godzilla got to Tokyo for the final battle. Plus I was amazed at how bad the CGI was. I do think that Organizer G1 was a neat way to explain Godzilla's invulnerability, and I do appreciate the film for being one of the few in the millennium series to introduce a new, original monster. But other than that, the film is pretty mediocre and only occasionally interesting.

As for the American version. I don't like cheesy bad dubbing or localization alterations (aside from voice dubbing of course) and prefer to watch these films in their native language so I have no reason to see the American version again. Though I might check it out again someday out of morbid curiosity.

[JoshK]

Not counting the US Godzilla film, this is the only true Godzilla film I saw in theaters. I like it. I just wish I had it in its original language with subtitles.

[Legion1979]

I saw it on opening day, sat in a nearly empty theater and was bored silly by it.

Don't get the appeal.

[Tohosaurus]

I feel like the movie would've been much better if a lot of small and moderate details were fixed/changed/addressed otherwise. Still like it though. It actually has grown on me more recently.

[wrongnote85]

i was the first person in line at the theater the day that it opened. what a great day that was.

[Rody]

Well, I just watched this movie again. My opinion is: no, it is not a masterpiece. In fact, it's quite the opposite. It looks very rushed and overall sloppy, especially with the special effects. It's very obvious when a shot is superimposed, the coloration is all over the place in some scenes, and the CGI looks very poor. If this was from the 1980's, I wouldn't criticize; but considering that Gamera 3 came out this same year, G2K looks very poor.

That's not the film's only problem, though. The dubbing is downright awful, and the dialogue is pretty stupid sounding at times. Whether or not this is only present in the dubbed version, I can't say. The soundtrack is mediocre; nothing noteworthy.

The film has its good points: the Mire-Goji suit is pretty good, and the battle scenes are nice. Overall though, the cons outweigh the pros, and this is a pretty weak entry in the franchise. I would actually watch Godzilla vs. Megaguirus over this, at least for sheer entertainment value.

[MothraPeanuts]

I would actually watch Godzilla vs. Megaguirus over this, at least for sheer entertainment value.

GODZILLA VS MEGAGUIRUS has entertainment value?!?

It's his opinion, and I'm not going to knock it, but that movie was downright painful. Outside of Yuriko Hoshi's cameo, there is not one aspect of it that appeals to me on any level whatsoever. Easily my least favorite Godzilla film, I saw it once and I never want to see it again. GODZILLA 2000, on the other hand, is my favorite Millenium film. Hardly a masterpeice, however; the Millenium as a whole is easily the poorest of the three series. GMK is the only one I'd call "good' in a critical sense, but I'd take any Showa or Heisei film (outside of BIOLLANTE and SPACEGODZILLA) over it. That's drifting into off-topic territory, though, so I'll just leave it there.

[TokyoVigilante]

Godzilla vs. Megaguirus is easily the worst film in the franchise. It really manages to do nothing right. It's probably my least favourite films ever made.

[Goji]

Well, GODZILLA 2000 and MEGAGUIRUS are both pretty damn mediocre..but the later is more "fun" overall, even if it's definitely overlong, and cheaply made.

If I had to choose, it would easily be GxM simply because it doesn't bore me to tears the way G2K does, so I can understand where Rody is coming from.

Don't get me wrong though, I think they both suck. I don't see myself revisiting either of them anytime soon though.

[tymon]

^Meh, I still don't see how these major "issues" with G2K are anything different than what plagues all modern Godzilla films. The Kiryu films manage to beat it in special effects consistency (GMK does too, though not by much), but that's all I can think of. All of the movies (Heisei included) have boring characters, poor pacing, laughable dialogue and hit-or-miss acting...these aren't critically great movies, and they aren't supposed to be.

On the other hand, G2K has things that other modern G-films don't have: excellent lighting, miniatures that are convincing 90% of the time (like I said before, it looks like a real city as opposed to the lifeless sets and backdrops of Heisei, GMK and the Kiryu films), and a sense of atmosphere. It's not overly long (the US version anyway) and doesn't take itself too seriously (*coughcoughGMKcoughcoughKIRYU*). The score rocks, too, especially mixed with J. Peter Robinson and Ifukube's cues.

[DaddlerTheDalek]

G2K was nice. Orga was Cool.

[Goji]

^Meh, I still don't see how these major "issues" with G2K are anything different than what plagues all modern Godzilla films. The Kiryu films manage to beat it in special effects consistency (GMK does too, though not by much), but that's all I can think of. All of the movies (Heisei included) have boring characters, poor pacing, laughable dialogue and hit-or-miss acting...these aren't critically great movies, and they aren't supposed to be.

I don't really get how this applies to anything I said, but okay. I almost never watch the 90's films anymore anyway, so take that into consideration. I never said anything about the Heisei films in the first place, nor would I ever insinuate that they were "critically great", because they clearly weren't.

On the other hand, G2K has things that other modern G-films don't have: excellent lighting, miniatures that are convincing 90% of the time (like I said before, it looks like a real city as opposed to the lifeless sets and backdrops of Heisei, GMK and the Kiryu films), and a sense of atmosphere.

I agree with this, but it still bores me to tears nonetheless. I mean, it's not like I'm alone here. The film only seems to be moderately popular with fans to begin with.

[kaiju_wars]

Eh. Godzilla 2000 is still my second fav Godzilla movie (right behind the original King of the Monsters)
It was my first Godzilla movie and what ultamitly got me into godzilla.

[Goji]

That's called nostalgia. This film is a favorite of a lot of younger G-fans because it was one of their first exposures to the character, and not necessarily because it's a "good" Godzilla movie. Same applies with me and MEGALON.

[kaiju_wars]

That's called nostalgia. This film is a favorite of a lot of younger G-fans because it was one of their first exposures to the character, and not necessarily because it's a "good" Godzilla movie. Same applies with me and MEGALON.

Dude, I know what nostalgia is. I had it the other day when I saw this commercial with a N64 in it.