Favorite Godzilla Design

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Favorite Godzilla suit from Millenium?

Godzilla 2000- vs. Megaguirus
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28%
GMK
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32%
Godzilla X MechaGodzilla- Tokyo S.O.S.
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18%
Godzilla Final Wars
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22%
 
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Re: Favorite Godzilla Design

Postby GiganKing2 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:11 am

In the showa era they were rubber suits but in the millenimumm era they arwe animation not rubber suits or puppets.
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Re: Favorite Godzilla Design

Postby Cimmerian Dragon » Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:28 am

^ Excuse me?

Of course the millenium Godzilla films utilized rubber suits. Jesus, you can look up making-of clips that show the damn things.

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Re: Favorite Godzilla Design

Postby skuzzy-punk-kid » Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:34 pm

GiganKing2 wrote:In the showa era they were rubber suits but in the millenimumm era they arwe animation not rubber suits or puppets.


My favorite Shinsei suit has to be the MireGoji/GiraGoji (the one that represented Godzilla in Godzilla 2000 and Godzilla vs. Megaguirus). I always felt Godzilla needed a more reptilian look, while maintaining traits from the ShodaiGoji (the 1954 Godzilla). Take into account the 4 toes and the small ears, adding the bulk and the reptilian look from the KingGoji, Godzilla here is at his most imposing in my opinion. However, there is one thing I do need to address here...

GiganKing2; referring to your previous comment, you said in the Shinsei series, Godzilla was animated. Some of his swimming scenes were animated, but the majority of the scenes were suit-mation. I honestly hope you're not confusing the Shinsei Godzilla costumes with the American Zilla. Also, you forgot to include the Heisei Godzillas, as they also were primarily suit-mation.
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Re: Favorite Godzilla Design

Postby Goji » Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:17 pm

skuzzy-punk-kid wrote: Godzilla here is at his most imposing in my opinion.


Uhhh...I don't know about that. :?
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Re: Favorite Godzilla Design

Postby Rody » Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:22 pm

^ Well, he did say in HIS opinion. I don't agree, personally, but he's free to think as he chooses.

My vote still goes to Sokogecki-Goji.
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Re: Favorite Godzilla Design

Postby Goji » Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:43 pm

Sokogecki-Goji most imposing? Most definitely. 8-)

I'd put Goji-'84 is up there too.
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Re: Favorite Godzilla Design

Postby skuzzy-punk-kid » Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:09 pm

Goji wrote:Sokogecki-Goji most imposing? Most definitely. 8-)

I'd put Goji-'84 is up there too.


The 84Goji had that sinister quality to him (the brows and the fangs). I wonder if merchandise regarding this incarnation is in high demand? Heretell has it the suit used for the film was stolen.
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Re: Favorite Godzilla Design

Postby tymon » Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:04 am

skuzzy-punk-kid wrote:
GiganKing2 wrote:In the showa era they were rubber suits but in the millenimumm era they arwe animation not rubber suits or puppets.


My favorite Shinsei suit has to be the MireGoji/GiraGoji (the one that represented Godzilla in Godzilla 2000 and Godzilla vs. Megaguirus). I always felt Godzilla needed a more reptilian look, while maintaining traits from the ShodaiGoji (the 1954 Godzilla). Take into account the 4 toes and the small ears, adding the bulk and the reptilian look from the KingGoji, Godzilla here is at his most imposing in my opinion. However, there is one thing I do need to address here...


Agreed, I've always loved this suit, overexaggerated spines and all. 8-) My only gripe is the mouth is way too long, and the teeth would have looked better straightened with double-rows IMO. Still, quite the design, very expressive; powerful while still retaining mobility.
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Re: Favorite Godzilla Design

Postby Goji » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:05 am

The Godzilla in your avatar is basically an improved version of the Mire-Goji, as far as I'm concerned.
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Re: Favorite Godzilla Design

Postby Kiryu2012 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:07 am

Definetly GMK and Kiryu Saga gojis. They're both just awesome and badass.
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Re: Favorite Godzilla Design

Postby Rody » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:45 am

Goji wrote:The Godzilla in your avatar is basically an improved version of the Mire-Goji, as far as I'm concerned.

I second this notion.
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Re: Favorite Godzilla Design

Postby tymon » Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:13 am

Goji wrote:The Godzilla in your avatar is basically an improved version of the Mire-Goji, as far as I'm concerned.


It comes damn close IMO, and the face is better in that angle (though the frontal angle is even worse than Mire-Goji's frontal). Mire-Goji seems a bit more lively to me, and I think the more extreme colors match the extreme design better than traditional colors. Also, I like Mire-Goji's larger head, whereas Kiryu-Goji has a bit of a pinhead.
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Re: Favorite Godzilla Design

Postby skuzzy-punk-kid » Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:24 pm

tymon wrote:
Goji wrote:The Godzilla in your avatar is basically an improved version of the Mire-Goji, as far as I'm concerned.


It comes damn close IMO, and the face is better in that angle (though the frontal angle is even worse than Mire-Goji's frontal). Mire-Goji seems a bit more lively to me, and I think the more extreme colors match the extreme design better than traditional colors. Also, I like Mire-Goji's larger head, whereas Kiryu-Goji has a bit of a pinhead.


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[sees the front view of the head] Okay, this one seems imposing. I like the whited-out eyes; gives him this unnatural-demonic feel to it.
[sees the neck] Good, good; I like where this is going.
[sees the shoulders] Um...something's not quite right here.
[finally pans out to see the entire suit in one frame] Okay, those shoulders are definitely too narrow.
[sees the side view of the suit] That pot-belly needs to go!

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Re: Favorite Godzilla Design

Postby Rody » Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:25 pm

The first time I saw GMK, I thought it looked a lot like Heisei Godzilla too. As time has progressed, however, and I paid closer attention, I've found it bears a much greater resemblance to Shodai-Goji and the early 60's suits.
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Re: Favorite Godzilla Design

Postby skuzzy-punk-kid » Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:17 am

Rody wrote:The first time I saw GMK, I thought it looked a lot like Heisei Godzilla too. As time has progressed, however, and I paid closer attention, I've found it bears a much greater resemblance to Shodai-Goji and the early 60's suits.


The head does have the imposing quality to it; I won't argue with that one. The fangs at the front of its snout definitely calls out loud "ShodaiGoji."
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Re: Favorite Godzilla Design

Postby JAGzilla » Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:20 pm

I agree that the GMK suit's body is badly proportioned. The head looks pretty good, with the fangs and dead, white eyes, but everything else is just odd-looking.
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Re: Favorite Godzilla Design

Postby Goji » Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:44 am

God forbid we have a Godzilla that looks different from the norm? Ohh nooooooooooooo's! What a horrible, horrible thing!
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Re: Favorite Godzilla Design

Postby Ethan » Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:33 am

I'm convinced that if people didn't know about the history of GMK Godzilla (being supposed to stand like a dinosaur, not fitting the suit actor, etc) they wouldn't bring such criticisms on the design/execution. This not unlike people saying the 1984 suit barely moved, when they learned about Kenpachiro Satsuma having much trouble with the size of the suit. It's practically a psychological thing.
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Re: Favorite Godzilla Design

Postby skuzzy-punk-kid » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:15 pm

Goji wrote:God forbid we have a Godzilla that looks different from the norm? Ohh nooooooooooooo's! What a horrible, horrible thing!


I hope it's not another Zilla...oy vey.
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Re: Favorite Godzilla Design

Postby Tyler » Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:24 pm

Goji wrote:God forbid we have a Godzilla that looks different from the norm? Ohh nooooooooooooo's! What a horrible, horrible thing!


Well he never said anything about that. He just thought it was oddly proportioned.
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