Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

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Re: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus Thead

Postby Arbok » Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:54 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I wonder why Toho choose GXM not be a sequel to G2k? Seeing how G2k has no origin, and the movie did pretty well at the box office then this movie could have been a sequel to G2k.


In retrospect, G2K did good at the box office. However, back in its day, Toho saw it as a huge disappointment. The film did a lot worse than the end of the Heisei series did, and even made less money than Rebirth of Mothra (or so it seems, although there was a shift in how figures were reported around that time).

For the first film in a new series, Toho expected more.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus Thead

Postby Legion1979 » Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:20 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I wonder why Toho choose GXM not be a sequel to G2k?


Because one reason the Heisei series didn't get international releases was due to the tight continuity. It's no surprise that G2K - the first film that broke continuity - got a US theatrical release.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus Thead

Postby Gorosaurus Rex » Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:21 pm

Legion1979 wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:I wonder why Toho choose GXM not be a sequel to G2k?


Because one reason the Heisei series didn't get international releases was due to the tight continuity. It's no surprise that G2K - the first film that broke continuity - got a US theatrical release.


I never heard any realy talk of releasing GXM internationally until several years following the Japanese release. I've also never heard this about the Hesei saga.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus Thead

Postby DaikaijuSokogeki! » Sat Aug 14, 2010 1:33 am

Finally re-watched this film for the first time yesterday and, while it held up better than my first viewing, I'm still not too fond of the film. The music score here is the best part, although the usage of Ifukube's music is, quite honestly, tacky and unnecessary. The acting here is good, but the characters are pretty flat so the actors aren't given much room to work with. Finally, the big fight between Godzilla and Megaguirus is admittedly fun. It's energetic, inventive, and exciting.

As for the negatives, there are...quite a few. First off is just the dubious amount of plot holes in this film. IHow can our lead survive the radiation from Godzilla's body when she grasps onto him? Why did the kid grab the egg and was then intent on getting rid of it so quickly when he got to Tokyo? Why was Megaguirus never mentioned again after her defeat? Was her role in the film that trivial in the grand scheme of things? Finally, how in the HELL could Godzilla stop a black hole with his atomic breath? It's a black hole, the breath should've been sucked in...then again, it IS Godzilla.

The SPFX are extremely crummy too. The CG is dreadfully bad, the suits and props are stiff, the miniatures are unconvincing, and so on. From a special effects standpoint, this film is one of the laziest looking ones in the franchise.

So yeah, while it may no longer be my least favorite Godzilla film, it's still in my bottom five. I just can't bring myself to enjoy this one considering I love the '70s films to death. Maybe it's because those films weren't really trying to be anything more than just kid's fare whereas this one aims at a more mature audience.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus Thead

Postby GodzillaDude » Sat Aug 14, 2010 7:50 am

DaikaijuSokogeki! wrote:Finally re-watched this film for the first time yesterday and, while it held up better than my first viewing, I'm still not too fond of the film. The music score here is the best part, although the usage of Ifukube's music is, quite honestly, tacky and unnecessary. The acting here is good, but the characters are pretty flat so the actors aren't given much room to work with. Finally, the big fight between Godzilla and Megaguirus is admittedly fun. It's energetic, inventive, and exciting.

As for the negatives, there are...quite a few. First off is just the dubious amount of plot holes in this film. IHow can our lead survive the radiation from Godzilla's body when she grasps onto him? Why did the kid grab the egg and was then intent on getting rid of it so quickly when he got to Tokyo? Why was Megaguirus never mentioned again after her defeat? Was her role in the film that trivial in the grand scheme of things? Finally, how in the HELL could Godzilla stop a black hole with his atomic breath? It's a black hole, the breath should've been sucked in...then again, it IS Godzilla.

The SPFX are extremely crummy too. The CG is dreadfully bad, the suits and props are stiff, the miniatures are unconvincing, and so on. From a special effects standpoint, this film is one of the laziest looking ones in the franchise.

So yeah, while it may no longer be my least favorite Godzilla film, it's still in my bottom five. I just can't bring myself to enjoy this one considering I love the '70s films to death. Maybe it's because those films weren't really trying to be anything more than just kid's fare whereas this one aims at a more mature audience.


This is kinda off topic but what is your least favorite Godzilla film?
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus Thead

Postby DaikaijuSokogeki! » Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:30 am

GodzillaDude wrote:This is kinda off topic but what is your least favorite Godzilla film?


Godzilla: Final Wars. Surprised? :P
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus Thead

Postby edgaguirus » Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:25 pm

Considering that last paragraph, no.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus Thead

Postby Gigan X3 » Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:43 pm

DaikaijuSokogeki! wrote:
GodzillaDude wrote:This is kinda off topic but what is your least favorite Godzilla film?


Godzilla: Final Wars. Surprised? :P


Yeesh at Godzilla Vs. Mothra being preferred D:
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus Thead

Postby DaikaijuSokogeki! » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:47 am

Gigan X3 wrote:
DaikaijuSokogeki! wrote:
GodzillaDude wrote:This is kinda off topic but what is your least favorite Godzilla film?


Godzilla: Final Wars. Surprised? :P


Yeesh at Godzilla Vs. Mothra being preferred D:


To be fair, not by too much.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus Thead

Postby Steven Sloss » Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:51 pm

Just finished watching this one again. I enjoyed it a lot more than memory led me to believe. It's nothing particularly memorable or outstanding, but I think it had a few nice new ideas (the Dimension Tide in particular). But as much as I love Megaguirus' design (sort of reminds me of Battra a bit), her execution really doesn't hold up.

I'm also really not keen on the idea that the original Godzilla was never killed (or so we are to assume). To me, it sort of undermines the original film, both the drama and message.

Still, I like this one :)
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus Thead

Postby HeiseiGodzilla117 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:00 pm

To be quite honest... I really find this movie to be a fun one. It's nothing special... and it's silly, almost Showa silly. But also like most Showa films, it shares some of those charming campy qualities. It's a fairly good movie in my opinion.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus Thead

Postby Steven Sloss » Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:10 pm

HeiseiGodzilla117 wrote:It's nothing special... and it's silly, almost Showa silly. But also like most Showa films, it shares some of those charming campy qualities. It's a fairly good movie in my opinion.


Godzilla's big belly-flop reeks of the Showa era, the 1970's films in particular... and it always puts a big grin on my face :D
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus Thead

Postby HeiseiGodzilla117 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:11 pm

Steven Sloss wrote:
HeiseiGodzilla117 wrote:It's nothing special... and it's silly, almost Showa silly. But also like most Showa films, it shares some of those charming campy qualities. It's a fairly good movie in my opinion.


Godzilla's big belly-flop reeks of the Showa era, the 1970's films in particular... and it always puts a big grin on my face :D


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Re: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus Thead

Postby Steven Sloss » Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:24 pm

HeiseiGodzilla117 wrote:
Steven Sloss wrote:
HeiseiGodzilla117 wrote:It's nothing special... and it's silly, almost Showa silly. But also like most Showa films, it shares some of those charming campy qualities. It's a fairly good movie in my opinion.


Godzilla's big belly-flop reeks of the Showa era, the 1970's films in particular... and it always puts a big grin on my face :D


I know right? It's great.


It is. It's also great that G also has a bit more personality in this film - I love the scene when he emerges from the wreckage and shakes his head wildly.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus Thead

Postby edgaguirus » Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:20 pm

It's a fun film, and the tooth and claw battle was full of energy.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus Thead

Postby omgitsgodzilla » Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:38 am

Steven Sloss wrote:I love the scene when he emerges from the wreckage and shakes his head wildly.

Oh my god, I hate that. We're having an epic battle... Godzilla's been knocked down... Megaguirus is beating him mercilessly... Godzilla finally gets back up, growls and OMG GOOFY HEAD SHAKE! Seriously, it could have worked if kept at about the same speed as the rest, but it was obviously sped up and I despise it.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus thread

Postby MothraRocks » Sat May 14, 2011 11:30 am

Does anyone know what the Meganulon spat out? Was is tar or acid or what?
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus thread

Postby Tyler » Sat May 14, 2011 5:14 pm

I've wondered about that. Maybe it was digestive juices.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus Thead

Postby Goji » Sat May 14, 2011 5:23 pm

omgitsgodzilla wrote:
Steven Sloss wrote:I love the scene when he emerges from the wreckage and shakes his head wildly.

Oh my god, I hate that. We're having an epic battle... Godzilla's been knocked down... Megaguirus is beating him mercilessly... Godzilla finally gets back up, growls and OMG GOOFY HEAD SHAKE! Seriously, it could have worked if kept at about the same speed as the rest, but it was obviously sped up and I despise it.


Yeah, I can't stand it either. I still remember the first time I saw that..it was just "...what the hell was that?" :eh:. I somehow found it more random that Godzilla's infamous body slam on Megs.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus thread

Postby King Caesar » Sat May 14, 2011 7:10 pm

I still to this day think there is somethin wrong with my DVD player when he rips off Megaguiras's tail. Everything, even the music, just stops. It's so freakin weird...
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