The Future of Suitmation in Toho Godzilla Films

[Goji]

Ha, you're talking to me about maturity on these boards? Oh, the irony..Don't even start man. Seriously.


Anyways, I do agree that a combination of the two is the only way to go at this point. It's up to Toho to decide how much money their willing to spend for something like that. I think as long as Tsuburaya keeps doing things the old way (utilizing suits and miniatures), they're is a chance Toho will follow suit. Of course, that's assuming they'll ever make more Godzilla films, which seems even more unlikely in light of recent events, and the Japanese public's over lack of interest in the genre.

[Chris55]

Ha, you're talking to me about maturity on these boards? Oh, the irony..Don't even start man. Seriously.

There's a difference between joking around and being a dick.

[King Caesar]

Ha, you're talking to me about maturity on these boards? Oh, the irony..Don't even start man. Seriously.

Great Scott! The arrogance levels are off the charts!

[zilla103192]

there...

now. MY opinon on this, i can definetly see motion capture in the future.

and thats almost the exact same thing as suitmation... just digital.

[King Caesar]

^ There isn't anything there...

[Tyler]

I'd also like to direct your attention to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHxzAXaJOtU

If you didn't get goosebumps from that you're just jaded.

[Killswitch]

Ha, you're talking to me about maturity on these boards? Oh, the irony..Don't even start man. Seriously.

There's a difference between joking around and being a dick.

Its hard to distinguish at times. That's the problem with forums. You can't hear somebody's voice or see their facial expressions. Something that comes over as harsh on this board, may actually be a harmless joke.

[Legion1979]

I'd also like to direct your attention to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHxzAXaJOtU

If you didn't get goosebumps from that you're just jaded.

Guess I must be jaded.

[Legionmaster]

I'd also like to direct your attention to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHxzAXaJOtU

If you didn't get goosebumps from that you're just jaded.

Guess I must be jaded.

Well, you have been ruining the fandom since 1986.

[King Caesar]

I'd also like to direct your attention to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHxzAXaJOtU

If you didn't get goosebumps from that you're just jaded.

I've seen this before...and i knew right away it was from Always 2.

[omgitsgodzilla]

I'd personally rather keep with the suitmation and miniatures style just since it has such a unique look to it. Sadly, it'll probably go the way of the Do-do sooner or later.

This. That is all. Practical effects are dying. Even in low-budget, direct-to-video productions (the Asylum's films, for instance), more and more is being done with CGI. I think it's sad.

[Mini-Godzilla]

The time has come to retire the suits. They were only used in the first place because they were the most practical option. How about some nice stop motion instead? Or elaborate puppeteering, a la Alien 3?

[zilla103192]

i don't see why motion capture can't be a nice substitute for suits.

[Killswitch]

If the genre is to grow, it needs to have modern effects. Today's generation of kids & teens have been brought up on films like Star Wars, The Lord of the Rings, The Matrix, Jurassic Park, King Kong, etc.

[Tyler]

Guess I must be jaded.

So you didn't think that was cool? At all?

[EleKaiju]

If Godzilla ever returns to screen, I think they should stick with the suits, but not be afraid to use CGI when necessary. Ultraman Mebius was a great example of how suits and CG can blend together very well to create convincing battles and destruction sequences. (Even if some monsters really do look like... a guy in a suit, the monster and its actions still look very convincing.)

[Gojira-Fan]

The time has come to retire the suits. They were only used in the first place because they were the most practical option. How about some nice stop motion instead? Or elaborate puppeteering, a la Alien 3?

Stop motion used as special effects is deader than suitmation...

[Kameba90]

I'm a bit of a stickler for tradition and authenticity, so I hope more than anything else for the series that suitmation remains key. What I want to see is suitmation and miniature work done as extensively as possible, but with CG filling in the special cracks. I wouldn't mind, for example, if Godzilla's face was CG in long shots for facial movements or his lower tail for more natural, muscular tail motion. I also wouldn't mind a redesigned, more dinosaurian stance for the suit, like the velociraptor harnesses used in JP3. Basically, as long as something tangible remains onscreen, I'll be happy.

[omgitsgodzilla]

i don't see why motion capture can't be a nice substitute for suits.

Actually, I don't either. It has the simple visual realism of CGI, but keeps the organic nature of human movements. And it's easier to move.

[Gojira-Fan]

What would you guys think if the suit more robotic? Like if they had the Godzilla suit moved and blinked his eyes, you could see his nostrils intaking oxygen and see his stomach inhale and exhale to indicate that he is breathing. I think they should experiment with that, and see how more realistic it makes Godzilla look.