Scrapped Monster Discussion: Anguirus (2001)

[GodzillavsRayquaza]

With the main site talking about the scrapped monsters for GMK's original draft, I figured it would be cool to bring discussion to the forums.

So, how do you feel about this idea for Anguirus? Would you have preferred this to GMK's Ghidorah? Is this too radical a redesign, or would it have been great to see?

I personally am neutral. I like the idea for the powers, but attached to Anguirus? I don't know. I like the design, certainly would've been better than the GFW redesign. I think I prefer Ghidorah in GMK over this concept.

[LegendZilla]

The things I would do to get GAV get made instead of GMK.

[Ivo-goji]

I feel like none of the proposed monsters for GMK made any sense for the roles they were given.

On the one hand giving Anguirus supernatural powers completely screws up the kaiju's whole appeal as the 'no frills' monster, as badly as making King Ghidorah a hero screws up his villain cred. On the other hand, it would have placed Anguirus in the biggest role he'd ever had since his debut film. I'm kind of on the fence myself.

[KingZillla]

I feel like none of the proposed monsters for GMK made any sense for the roles they were given.

On the one hand giving Anguirus supernatural powers completely screws up the kaiju's whole appeal as the 'no frills' monster, as badly as making King Ghidorah a hero screws up his villain cred. On the other hand, it would have placed Anguirus in the biggest role he'd ever had since his debut film. I'm kind of on the fence myself.

Completely agree

[LSD Jellyfish]

While it's always cool to think about what could've been, I really think the final product was one of the best Godzilla movies, and I don't mind that Varan and Anguirus got scrapped.

Ironically by adding more overused monsters the film feels more original. Baragon, Mothra and Ghidorah ads both three completely different monsters in terms of physical nature and powers. Imagery of a golden orochi/dragon, a giant moth god, and the canine dog like Baragon mix way better than three reptilian monsters. In fact they would've added so much powers, particularly ice Anguirus, to make the whole thing make more diverse.

Besides, it's not like Anguirus, Baragon or Varan are original monsters. If I found out that original monsters for the film were scrapped in favor for something like this perhaps I'd be upset.

[SonOfGorgo]

I feel like none of the proposed monsters for GMK made any sense for the roles they were given.

On the one hand giving Anguirus supernatural powers completely screws up the kaiju's whole appeal as the 'no frills' monster, as badly as making King Ghidorah a hero screws up his villain cred. On the other hand, it would have placed Anguirus in the biggest role he'd ever had since his debut film. I'm kind of on the fence myself.

No frills? Don't know what that means, but okay.

I'm kind of open to the idea of making Anguirus a guardian monster similar to Gamera's Heisei rendition, complete with a sub-zero breath.

[Godzillian]

I really love the design they would have used for Anguirus in this movie. The powers were nice and would have made sense in the context of the movie

[Ivo-goji]

I feel like none of the proposed monsters for GMK made any sense for the roles they were given.

On the one hand giving Anguirus supernatural powers completely screws up the kaiju's whole appeal as the 'no frills' monster, as badly as making King Ghidorah a hero screws up his villain cred. On the other hand, it would have placed Anguirus in the biggest role he'd ever had since his debut film. I'm kind of on the fence myself.

No frills? Don't know what that means, but okay.

I'm kind of open to the idea of making Anguirus a guardian monster similar to Gamera's Heisei rendition, complete with a sub-zero breath.

No-frills = no flashy extra powers and what not, a giant animal in its purity. The Batman of the kaiju kingdom.

[Cybermat47]

I feel like none of the proposed monsters for GMK made any sense for the roles they were given.

On the one hand giving Anguirus supernatural powers completely screws up the kaiju's whole appeal as the 'no frills' monster, as badly as making King Ghidorah a hero screws up his villain cred. On the other hand, it would have placed Anguirus in the biggest role he'd ever had since his debut film. I'm kind of on the fence myself.

I think I would have preferred Anguirus to Mothra, if they didn't give him any super-duper powers. The only new aspect of him would hopefully be the guardian monster spirituality stuff.

[Godzillian]

So according to Matt Frank the Angurius would have been made with a giant mechanical puppet like the wolf in "An American Werewolf in London"

[GigaBowserG]

So according to Matt Frank the Angurius would have been made with a giant mechanical puppet like the wolf in "An American Werewolf in London"

One of the books just scarcely touched on this, saying they debated using "models" as opposed to suits, but I never would've guessed that entailed puppets like that

[SonOfGorgo]

So according to Matt Frank the Angurius would have been made with a giant mechanical puppet like the wolf in "An American Werewolf in London"

I guess that would explain the stance that may seem impossible for even a suit actor.

[G1G4N_27]

I would've preferred Angurius and Varan over Mothra and King Ghidorah. Even though Ghidorah and Mothra are some of my favorite characters, I would've liked to see some not-so popular monsters every once in a while. Varan has only had 1 major role and that was in his own movie. He was gonna have a bigger role DAM but his suit was deteriorating and Toho could only use a small immobile puppet. Angurius really hasn't had any major roles except in GRA. The other movies he was in Angurius was either a supporting or minor character.

Conclusion: Would've preferred GAV instead of GMK.

[SonOfGorgo]

This may or mayn't be on topic, but as some people here may know, I'm planning a spin-off fanfic story about this specific Anguirus.

[Godzillian]

For those interested here is a size comparison between Anguirus and Godzilla for this film. Anguirus would have been a rather massive beast in this one if he wasn't scrapped

[GigaBowserG]

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For those interested here is a size comparison between Anguirus and Godzilla for this film. Anguirus would have been a rather massive beast in this one if he wasn't scrapped

A better look of that can be found on the main site Baragon was meant to be exactly half Godzilla's height (~109cm tall suit to Godzilla's 217cm), so Anguirus would've stood about... 36 meters?

[SonOfGorgo]

Baragon was meant to be exactly half Godzilla's height (~109cm tall suit to Godzilla's 217cm), so Anguirus would've stood about... 36 meters?

Yeah, seems about right. And also apparently roughly 45 metres long.

[Relair]

Anything to get Anguirus some more spotlight would have been good. Haven't seen the poor guy in so long except his joke beach volleyball cameo in FW.

[edgaguirus]

I wish Angy would get more roles. He may not have any thrilling powers, but he has a great design.

[Maritonic]

As much as I LOVE everything I hear about GAV, I really have to agree with a previous statement that the Golden Dragon/Giant Moth/Underground Dog Creature seem to fit better with cultural lore than two land-bound reptile-like creatures and one flying one. There just isn't enough diversity between Anguirus, Varan and Baragon as there is between Ghidorah, Mothra and Baragon.
That being said, I DO wish we could have maybe seen a sequel or something with this vision of Anguirus. Always curious about what could have been with this project.