Are we really still in the Millennium Series?
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Are we really still in the Millennium Series?
(This is more so commentary on the title of this forum section)
I mean, wasn't the 10 year gap between 2004 and 2014 enough to warrant the end of an era of Godzilla/Kaiju movies and the beginning of another?
There was Clover and Pacific Rim in between, but they didn't involve any of the classic kaiju we all know and love and certainly didn't spark the massive return to popularity as we see today.
I just find it hard to say that the 2017 Anime, Shin, and 2014 are part of the Millennium Series. Or, if they aren't, then would a film that would come out later that is unrelated to the previously mentioned movies be a part of the Millennium Series?
It kinda seems like too big a big gap, you know?
I mean, wasn't the 10 year gap between 2004 and 2014 enough to warrant the end of an era of Godzilla/Kaiju movies and the beginning of another?
There was Clover and Pacific Rim in between, but they didn't involve any of the classic kaiju we all know and love and certainly didn't spark the massive return to popularity as we see today.
I just find it hard to say that the 2017 Anime, Shin, and 2014 are part of the Millennium Series. Or, if they aren't, then would a film that would come out later that is unrelated to the previously mentioned movies be a part of the Millennium Series?
It kinda seems like too big a big gap, you know?
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Re: Are we really still in the Millennium Series?
NateZilla10000 wrote:(This is more so commentary on the title of this forum section)
I mean, wasn't the 10 year gap between 2004 and 2014 enough to warrant the end of an era of Godzilla/Kaiju movies and the beginning of another?
There was Clover and Pacific Rim in between, but they didn't involve any of the classic kaiju we all know and love and certainly didn't spark the massive return to popularity as we see today.
I just find it hard to say that the 2017 Anime, Shin, and 2014 are part of the Millennium Series. Or, if they aren't, then would a film that would come out later that is unrelated to the previously mentioned movies be a part of the Millennium Series?
It kinda seems like too big a big gap, you know?
No, we are not in the Millennium series. While this post is very old, and I don't expect a reply, I'll still say something anyway. The Millennium series was produced and created from 1999-2004, hence the name " Millennium ". Cloverfield and Pacific Rim don't have anything to do with this, G2014 is part of the officially confirmed Monsterverse, and Shin Gojira, and Godzilla: MONSTER PLANET aren't currently part of any era at all. No film that is upcoming is part of the series, either.
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Godzilla would be the only Toho franchise/series that's "beyond" Millennium. Other movies like AoT would still be in Millennium, as far as I know anyway. Pacific Rim or anything from Hollywood would be even less within Heisei or Millennium, etc. The original Showa/Heisei naming is for something outside of the movie industry in Japan. Anything from Legendary's current series is from the MonsterVerse, not Millennium or something else. If there are numerous Godzilla movies from Japan maybe there will be a name (bring back Shinsei!) to be associated with that collective of movies. With Godzilla's anime not being from Toho though I don't know how they'd categorize it. On TK it'd probably be placed in whatever "era" Shin becomes a component of, IF they make more, like Sony's Godzilla being in the Heisei forum. It isn't a Heisei movie but it was in theaters during Toho's Heisei movies like Mothra.
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Re: Are we really still in the Millennium Series?
We will know the current era's name when a new emperor ascends the Chrysanthemum Throne.
The present situation is the same as when Return of Godzilla came out. It was the first entry in the Heisei series but it was actually released in the Showa era.
The present situation is the same as when Return of Godzilla came out. It was the first entry in the Heisei series but it was actually released in the Showa era.
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Re: Are we really still in the Millennium Series?
It's Millennium until 3000, I think that's quite clear.
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Re: Are we really still in the Millennium Series?
I think the Millennium series of Godzilla movies is over since 2004.
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Re: Are we really still in the Millennium Series?
If you really want to get technical, we're actually still in the Heisei era! But, given the gap between GFW and G2014, safe to say we're in a new era for Godzilla, though there hasn't really been a definitive name for it yet.
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Re: Are we really still in the Millennium Series?
Actually, you bring up a pretty good point, maybe we are still in the Millennium series. However, considering that Legendary just revealed the upcoming Godzilla films produced in America are part of the ' Monsterverse ' I don't really think we are.Ivo-goji wrote:We will know the current era's name when a new emperor ascends the Chrysanthemum Throne.
The present situation is the same as when Return of Godzilla came out. It was the first entry in the Heisei series but it was actually released in the Showa era.
EDIT: I just realized this might have been what the G-Fans in '84 felt like about the newest movie whether it was part of a previous era or not.
SoleMan wrote: I feel like with his passing, it finally lays the era of Godzilla to rest. No more are there guys in rubber suits, no more are there fun, silly, kid-friendly Godzillas, no more are the days when you could make out in the back row with your sweetheart and your kid brother could be in the front, eyes glued to the screen. Instead we're left with the gritty, cold world of Hollywood and apocalyptic visions of nightmare creatures.
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Re: Are we really still in the Millennium Series?
No. Godzilla movies are interesting now.
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Re: Are we really still in the Millennium Series?
G14 don't count just as Gino isn't considered part of the Heisei series. Same will probably be applied to the upcoming anime.
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Re: Are we really still in the Millennium Series?
Technically in terms of culture eras we're still Heisei given Emperor Heisei is still thankfully still alive and ruling, aren't we?
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I feel like if Toho continues making films around this time we'll just end up calling this the Shin series.
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Re: Are we really still in the Millennium Series?
The way these movies are split into eras is so damn inconsistent. We really should have come up with a better way to split these movies up in the past.
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Well...Tarbosaurus wrote:Technically in terms of culture eras we're still Heisei given Emperor Heisei is still thankfully still alive and ruling, aren't we?
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Huh. Well, he's lived a long life and ruled well, gotten up there in years. Better to pass it along smoothly. Wonder what name his heir will take for the new era. And come to think of it, would this new era be named after him and have Shin Godzilla included in it? Kind alike how 1984 was technically a Showa era film but it was added to the Heisei era.tbeasley wrote:Well...Tarbosaurus wrote:Technically in terms of culture eras we're still Heisei given Emperor Heisei is still thankfully still alive and ruling, aren't we?
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Re: Are we really still in the Millennium Series?
That's a good idea, and solves a lot of problems with this division.Tarbosaurus wrote:Huh. Well, he's lived a long life and ruled well, gotten up there in years. Better to pass it along smoothly. Wonder what name his heir will take for the new era. And come to think of it, would this new era be named after him and have Shin Godzilla included in it? Kind alike how 1984 was technically a Showa era film but it was added to the Heisei era.tbeasley wrote:Well...Tarbosaurus wrote:Technically in terms of culture eras we're still Heisei given Emperor Heisei is still thankfully still alive and ruling, aren't we?
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Re: Are we really still in the Millennium Series?
Personally, I like to call this post-2014 as The Resurgence era.
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Re: Are we really still in the Millennium Series?
Definitely think "Resurgence Era" has a great ring to it. The first film, G14, came out during a time when Godzilla was practically dead and it, along with Pacific Rim, revitalized the kaiju genre.
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Cheers m8UltramanGoji wrote:Definitely think "Resurgence Era" has a great ring to it. The first film, G14, came out during a time when Godzilla was practically dead and it, along with Pacific Rim, revitalized the kaiju genre.
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Re: Are we really still in the Millennium Series?
The Showa and Heisei eras are denoted by the emperor, but I think continuing that trend is arbitrary. Technically Millenium Movies still exist within the Heisei era, but clearly there's a difference between Heisei era G films and the series of films that came out from 1999-2004.
I also, while understanding the differences between the 3 current series, really think we should title them all under one envelope, as it's the current ongoing succession of films. The Millenium series was the 3rd, now we are on the 4th.
I also, while understanding the differences between the 3 current series, really think we should title them all under one envelope, as it's the current ongoing succession of films. The Millenium series was the 3rd, now we are on the 4th.