Monster Discussion #70: Gigan 2004

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Monster Discussion #70: Gigan 2004

Postby gigan72 » Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:13 pm

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Discuss the second incarnation of Gigan from Godzilla: Final Wars and both his regular and upgraded forms.
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Re: Monster Discussion #70: Gigan 2004

Postby 3000 » Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:19 am

Favorite incarnation of Gigan right here. For all of GFW's faults, one notable strength of the film in my opinion was the update to alot of the kaiju designs. This Gigan update is a stand out for sure, the design is so dope. Too bad this incarnation is weak as skreeonk :b
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Re: Monster Discussion #70: Gigan 2004

Postby Dannybeane » Tue Jan 12, 2016 2:42 pm

GFW Gigan was a pretty awesome update. I just wish his battle with Mothra was a little more involved. I still think I prefer Showa Gigan but only marginally. Chainsaw hands though are always awesome and his cluster beam was also pretty different from the standard beam rays.

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Re: Monster Discussion #70: Gigan 2004

Postby Giga Kaiju » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:40 pm

While some people thing that Gigan's look might be 'edgy', I don't think that's necessarly true. It gives new life to his appearance for a new generation while retaining traits from his old-memorable look a bit.

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Re: Monster Discussion #70: Gigan 2004

Postby edgaguirus » Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:13 pm

The new look did seem more mechanical than the Showa era, and the scythe hands looks much deadlier. I like that Gigan had his laser, but the kaiju wasn't much of a fighter. They give it a weapon only to use it as fodder.
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Re: Monster Discussion #70: Gigan 2004

Postby Frezgle » Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:46 pm

Cool design (not a fan of red and black, but the shapes are really nice), but man he had none of the personality of Showa Gigan. :/ They also built him up in the movie like this ultimate villain kaiju, but he goes down twice pretty quickly. To Mothra the second time, no less, just for Monster X to show up outta nowhere and be like, "Hi, I'm actually the big bad of this movie :^)"

Just wish his portrayal had been good enough to give the new look more justice.
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Re: Monster Discussion #70: Gigan 2004

Postby Godzillian » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:46 pm

Probably the only major redesign from the movie I really liked. The colors really look good on this version and the chain hook attack is a neat addition.
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Re: Monster Discussion #70: Gigan 2004

Postby Israha » Sat Jan 23, 2016 1:33 pm

Awesome-looking monster (probably my favourite kaiju of the whole Millenium series), but not utilized very well in its movie. While it sort of made sense when FW Godzilla easily overpowered the rest of Xilien monsters (he was billed as the strongest of them all, after all), Gigan got dispatched way too easily for being presented as a major threat for long aeons. The only thing he managed to do was knocking down Gotengo temporarily and set Mothra on fire...not much for one of two main kaiju villains of the movie.

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Re: Monster Discussion #70: Gigan 2004

Postby Coobzilla03 » Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:28 pm

While I like the design, his execution was rather poor. He wasn't that powerful in comparison to the original, who himself exactly that powerful. He didn't seem like much of a threat.
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Re: Monster Discussion #70: Gigan 2004

Postby edgaguirus » Sun Feb 12, 2017 11:26 pm

Gigan wasn't given much opportunity to be a threat. The majority of the kaiju were easy fights for Godzilla to show off his strength and power. Gigan, unfortunately, was treated the same as them.
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Re: Monster Discussion #70: Gigan 2004

Postby SuperPawnageGigan » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:41 am

i love this verison of gigan because i like his upgraded form for the CHAINSAW HANDS!!!! BECAUSE THEY LOOK AMAZING
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Re: Monster Discussion #70: Gigan 2004

Postby ZeppandonConfirmed » Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:57 am

I personally love this incarnation as Gigan, not as much as 72, but it is a cool design nonetheless.
I like the design of Gigan mostly, it's what makes him cool, but that's also the biggest flaw of the design. It was cool, but Toho tried too hard to make it look cool. But I guess it worked since I've seen plenty love this design. And I personally like this version as I said. Same goes for the Upgraded version and gave him chainsaws. Very cool!
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Re: Monster Discussion #70: Gigan 2004

Postby Zarm » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:22 am

Frezgle wrote:Just wish his portrayal had been good enough to give the new look more justice.


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Re: Monster Discussion #70: Gigan 2004

Postby Destorogoji » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:43 am

Design wise, Gigan looks awesome, he has all the characteristic details from the original one, plus new updates that blend prety well in the style of the movie.
But yeah, he has an awful performance throughout the movie. :lol:
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Re: Monster Discussion #70: Gigan 2004

Postby Zarm » Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:56 am

To be fair, at least he didn't run away. :) Maybe his quick, painful deaths in this movie are what what have happened all the time if Gigan hadn't. ;)
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Re: Monster Discussion #70: Gigan 2004

Postby Komenja » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:59 pm

Leather Daddy Gigan is best Gigan!
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Re: Monster Discussion #70: Gigan 2004

Postby latinothor » Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:35 pm

Gigan was extremely powerful in Final Wars. Let me explain, Godzilla as soon as he was awaken from the ice, wasted no time and shot his Atomic breath at Gigan and knock him off his feet but didn't cause major damage. It was only when Gigan held Godzilla with his metal hooks, that the full power of Godzilla's Atomic ray managed to destroy his head. Gigan, inadvertently might have sealed his fate by using his hooks in that manner.

Then Gigan 2.0 easily defeated Mothra, who is one of the most powerful kaijus besides the King himself. Gigan even got extremely cocky at how easily he defeated Mothra. So, this is why I believe this version of Gaigan was definitely up there in the powerhouse department.

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Re: Monster Discussion #70: Gigan 2004

Postby GodzillaFan1990's » Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:06 pm

I'm probably one of those few people who enjoys this design more then the original. Don't get me wrong Showa Gigan is cool and all and works for its time but I like how they make this Gigan look sadistic and menacing the way the cyborg is suppose to represent especially being known for the first monster to make Godzilla bleed.

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Re: Monster Discussion #70: Gigan 2004

Postby Destorogoji » Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:53 am

I've been thinking about how well Gigan's classic colors could fit this design.
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Re: Monster Discussion #70: Gigan 2004

Postby Jatahaxe » Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:06 pm

latinothor wrote:Gigan was extremely powerful in Final Wars. Let me explain, Godzilla as soon as he was awaken from the ice, wasted no time and shot his Atomic breath at Gigan and knock him off his feet but didn't cause major damage. It was only when Gigan held Godzilla with his metal hooks, that the full power of Godzilla's Atomic ray managed to destroy his head. Gigan, inadvertently might have sealed his fate by using his hooks in that manner.

Then Gigan 2.0 easily defeated Mothra, who is one of the most powerful kaijus besides the King himself. Gigan even got extremely cocky at how easily he defeated Mothra. So, this is why I believe this version of Gaigan was definitely up there in the powerhouse department.

First post by the way! :)

While I fail to see exactly how Gigan's hooks made Godzilla's ray stronger, I do second the notion that FW Gigan was more of a victim of GFW's frenzied plot rather than nerfs or Godzilla being too OP in this movie.
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