Monster Discussion: Godzilla (2004/Final Wars)

[bananaoil]

Nobody legitimately likes the movie. It's the worst Godzilla film of all time.

Hi, my name's Nobody, nice to meet you!

[JVM]

Nobody legitimately likes the movie. It's the worst Godzilla film of all time.

Hi, my name's Nobody, nice to meet you!

Pleasure to meet you as well.

This topic used to have proof GFW sucked undeniable, but I just edited out the Son of Godzilla option since it had no votes and it removed all the existing votes.

[Gigan X3]

Nobody legitimately likes the movie. It's the worst Godzilla film of all time.

Hi, my name's Nobody, nice to meet you!

Pleasure to meet you as well.

This topic used to have proof GFW sucked undeniable, but I just edited out the Son of Godzilla option since it had no votes and it removed all the existing votes.

Lol, next time get us some evidence instead of a sad forum's poll.

[Goji]

Spacegodzilla does suck, and Fatzilla hardly does it any favors.

Say's the guy with Little Godzilla in his avatar..hmm.

[Mini-Godzilla]

Hey, Little Godzilla almost saves the movie. Go Minilla!

[bananaoil]

Pleasure to meet you as well.

This topic used to have proof GFW sucked undeniable, but I just edited out the Son of Godzilla option since it had no votes and it removed all the existing votes.

In all seriousness, I don't let fan polls tell me which films I should and shouldn't like. Final Wars may be flawed, but it doesn't take itself seriously and, as a result, it's one of my favorite films because it's an effectively glorious love letter to the camp-filled 60s and 70s films.

[HedorahLives]

Pleasure to meet you as well.

This topic used to have proof GFW sucked undeniable, but I just edited out the Son of Godzilla option since it had no votes and it removed all the existing votes.

In all seriousness, I don't let fan polls tell me which films I should and shouldn't like. Final Wars may be flawed, but it doesn't take itself seriously and, as a result, it's one of my favorite films because it's an effectively glorious love letter to the camp-filled 60s and 70s films.

I second this.

[Gigan X3]

Pleasure to meet you as well.

This topic used to have proof GFW sucked undeniable, but I just edited out the Son of Godzilla option since it had no votes and it removed all the existing votes.

In all seriousness, I don't let fan polls tell me which films I should and shouldn't like. Final Wars may be flawed, but it doesn't take itself seriously and, as a result, it's one of my favorite films because it's an effectively glorious love letter to the camp-filled 60s and 70s films.

I second this.

I third this. Proudly, I'm really glad with got a film that's different.

[Gigan X3]

I don't get when people say GFW is campy on purpose, to me it's just unintentionally stupid. It tries way harder than is should to be cool and hip, which is really annoying.

"Sorry, I'm a vegetarian." *vomits*

The fight on Mount Fuji is obviously made for the laughs, they were pretty much playing football with Anguirus!

[Gorosaurus Rex]

I don't get when people say GFW is campy on purpose, to me it's just unintentionally stupid. It tries way harder than is should to be cool and hip, which is really annoying.

"Sorry, I'm a vegetarian." *vomits*

Yet thats what adds to its camp value. Look at the Showa films there are dozens of such scenes.

[JVM]

Lol, next time get us some evidence instead of a sad forum's poll.

What better evidence is there?

In all seriousness, I don't let fan polls tell me which films I should and shouldn't like.

This isn't about liking GFW, this is about thinking it's a good film.

Final Wars may be flawed, but it doesn't take itself seriously and, as a result.

It takes itself very seriously. It's a poor attempt at making a serious movie.

it's one of my favorite films because it's an effectively glorious love letter to the camp-filled 60s and 70s films.

Big whoop. That's not what Godzilla's fiftieth anniversary is about.

I love the '60s and '70s films most of all. So...why don't I like Final Wars?

Odd.

Because you have a brain. I'd say you're the most intelligent person on the board at this point.

[Gigan X3]

Lol, next time get us some evidence instead of a sad forum's poll.

What better evidence is there?

In all seriousness, I don't let fan polls tell me which films I should and shouldn't like.

This isn't about liking GFW, this is about thinking it's a good film.

Final Wars may be flawed, but it doesn't take itself seriously and, as a result.

It takes itself very seriously. It's a poor attempt at making a serious movie.

it's one of my favorite films because it's an effectively glorious love letter to the camp-filled 60s and 70s films.

Big whoop. That's not what Godzilla's fiftieth anniversary is about.

I love the '60s and '70s films most of all. So...why don't I like Final Wars?

Odd.

Because you have a brain. I'd say you're the most intelligent person on the board at this point.

Man, You are Godzilla Final Wars.

[bananaoil]

What better evidence is there?

Are you familiar with the term "sample error," JVM?

An opinion poll that received very little participation on a fan forum hardly constitutes strong evidence of anything. Talk to me when you've gathered significant academic and commercial sources that all support a singular consensus.

This isn't about liking GFW, this is about thinking it's a good film.

I also don't let fan polls tell me which films I should or shouldn't consider good cinema.

It takes itself very seriously.

No, it doesn't.

It's an exaggerated, over-the-top action film. By it's very nature it doesn't take itself seriously. I would reference things like the cop/pimp New York scene, the Mt. Fuji battle, or the general tone of the ending, but the film speaks for itself.

Big whoop. That's not what Godzilla's fiftieth anniversary is about.

From dictionary.com:

Anniversary (n):

1. the yearly recurrence of the date of a past event: the tenth anniversary of their marriage.
2. the celebration or commemoration of such a date.

Anniversary (adj):

1. returning or recurring each year; annual.

Couple that with the fact that Final Wars rolls several elements from Toho's sci-fi library into one film, including monsters, technology, plot elements, and a tone that prevailed during the bulk of the Showa series, and you have a film that does more to commemorate the franchise as a whole than Space Godzilla or Godzilla Returns.

[Gigan X3]

The fight on Mount Fuji is obviously made for the laughs, they were pretty much playing football with Anguirus!

I liked that, but...

Yet thats what adds to its camp value. Look at the Showa films there are dozens of such scenes.

It lacks the Showa spirit though. GFW is trying too hard to be GODZILLA 2 THE EXTREME. Even Matt Frank does a better job at doing that.

It does feel edgy indeed, But I liked it and I Believe we both agree that it feels fresh to watch it every now and then among all G-Films.

[G1 Startruck Jonez]

Final Wars may be flawed, but it doesn't take itself seriously and, as a result, it's one of my favorite films because it's an effectively glorious love letter to the camp-filled 60s and 70s films.

I love the '60s and '70s films most of all. So...why don't I like Final Wars?

Odd.

The soundtrack. Music goes a long way.

[gojira012]

You guys are missing the point: the meaning of this topic is saying that the Godzilla in final wars had the best height, power, speed, and skill.

[GodzillaDude]

You guys are missing the point: the meaning of this topic is saying that the Godzilla in final wars had the best height, power, speed, and skill.

But he doesn't. He is just a taller version of Showa Gojira.

[Gigan X3]

You guys are missing the point: the meaning of this topic is saying that the Godzilla in final wars had the best height, power, speed, and skill.

He's really good but not the best either.

[Hipster Thor]

You have to admit the Final wars G is the best all around one out of all of them. I mean it blends the best of all worlds.

No. I don't. It was god awful.
For everything that movie wanted to achieve from a Kaiju basis, (Which is only a third of the film, if not less)Godzilla 2000.

[gojira012]

You have to admit the Final wars G is the best all around one out of all of them. I mean it blends the best of all worlds.

No. I don't. It was god awful.
For everything that movie wanted to achieve from a Kaiju basis, (Which is only a third of the film, if not less)Godzilla 2000.

This topic is not about the movie, but for that version of Godzilla himself