Should Biollante ever return?

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Re: Should Biollante ever return?

Postby Giga Kaiju » Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:33 pm

One way or another, Yes she should return but if its only "just cause" then No, it needs to be really well done (Story, Effects, etc).

I already post this video of Biollante in the Web video topic but i think it needs to be seen again just to realize how much effort it was put in her
Movements in GvsB.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkwUOcnhpQI
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Re: Should Biollante ever return?

Postby HikizuruBeat » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:51 pm

I think it might be cool to see biollante again. I really liked both of her forms, but for some reason I really love her rose form.
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Re: Should Biollante ever return?

Postby Cimmerian Dragon » Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:32 am

HikizuruBeat wrote:I think it might be cool to see biollante again. I really liked both of her forms, but for some reason I really love her rose form.


Same here. The rose is so attractive that it's hard to call it a monster, even with the teeth and tentacles. It's certainly a nice way of getting across the idea of Erica's benevolent soul being in Biollante. I don't think that would have worked so well if she looked like an acid-spewing flora-gator right off the bat.
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Re: Should Biollante ever return?

Postby wataru » Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:38 am

Wouldnt it rawk if Biollante comes back and settles on Mars, turning it into a green planet covered in monsterous plants and she sends spore Biollantes to take out Goji but he totally turns into Super Godzilla, flies to Mars and takes over the planet?!

...sounds like a fan fic.
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Re: Should Biollante ever return?

Postby Rody » Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:08 pm

Giga Kaiju wrote:One way or another, Yes she should return but if its only "just cause" then No, it needs to be really well done (Story, Effects, etc).

I already post this video of Biollante in the Web video topic but i think it needs to be seen again just to realize how much effort it was put in her
Movements in GvsB.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkwUOcnhpQI

Wow. Well, at least if they do bring her back in the future, they might be able to use lighter material.
I fully agree with what you say, though. Biollante was fantastic; I don't want her to return if she's only poor shadow of her original appearance.
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Re: Should Biollante ever return?

Postby Living Corpse » Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:19 pm

Rody wrote:Wow. Well, at least if they do bring her back in the future, they might be able to use lighter material.
I fully agree with what you say, though. Biollante was fantastic; I don't want her to return if she's only poor shadow of her original appearance.


That's one of the few good things GFW did, they learned to make suits out of a new and lighter material.

Hopefully they'll do that for future films assuming they'll still use suits.
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Re: Should Biollante ever return?

Postby HikizuruBeat » Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:25 pm

Cimmerian Dragon wrote:
HikizuruBeat wrote:I think it might be cool to see biollante again. I really liked both of her forms, but for some reason I really love her rose form.


Same here. The rose is so attractive that it's hard to call it a monster, even with the teeth and tentacles. It's certainly a nice way of getting across the idea of Erica's benevolent soul being in Biollante. I don't think that would have worked so well if she looked like an acid-spewing flora-gator right off the bat.

Yeah I agree. Though I do still like Biollante's second form it's very interesting how they came up with a plant/godzilla type hybrid, but yeah I really love the rose form. It's a shame there's not many figures of it either. The marmit rose biollante looks so nice, but it's really hard to find.
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Re: Should Biollante ever return?

Postby FlamingZilla23 » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:03 pm

HikizuruBeat wrote:
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HikizuruBeat wrote:I think it might be cool to see biollante again. I really liked both of her forms, but for some reason I really love her rose form.

Same here. The rose is so attractive that it's hard to call it a monster, even with the teeth and tentacles. It's certainly a nice way of getting across the idea of Erica's benevolent soul being in Biollante. I don't think that would have worked so well if she looked like an acid-spewing flora-gator right off the bat.

Yeah I agree. Though I do still like Biollante's second form it's very interesting how they came up with a plant/godzilla type hybrid, but yeah I really love the rose form. It's a shame there's not many figures of it either. The marmit rose biollante looks so nice, but it's really hard to find.
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Re: Should Biollante ever return?

Postby DaddlerTheDalek » Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:38 pm

It would be Great to see Biollante again.
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Re: Should Biollante ever return?

Postby Irys X » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:08 pm

Id certainly like to see Biollante again, though as was said before only if done right. I think there's still a lot more that could be done with her and I always thought the idea of a human merged with a monster was interesting.
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Re: Should Biollante ever return?

Postby Biogoji89 » Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:09 pm

TheSecondComing wrote:Hell no. Biollante's one of those monsters that was so perfect (interesting origin story, great execution, good design and character) that why risk ruining it all to show up as a second banana.

Some monsters are only meant to be used once. Biollante's one of those in my book.

It'd be cool but I say no for the same reason.In Final Wars they messed most monsters up.Most of the new movies are messing them up or making a version that isn't as cool as original version.
EXAMPLE:Kiryu doesn't look as cool or is as strong as the other 2.
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Re: Should Biollante ever return?

Postby Living Corpse » Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:13 pm

To be fair Kiryu at least actually had a personallity and could work on his own sometimes instead of just being an empty tank like Heisei Mechagodzilla. Please don't kill me PG.
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Re: Should Biollante ever return?

Postby miguelnuva » Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:19 pm

Biogoji89 wrote:
TheSecondComing wrote:Hell no. Biollante's one of those monsters that was so perfect (interesting origin story, great execution, good design and character) that why risk ruining it all to show up as a second banana.

Some monsters are only meant to be used once. Biollante's one of those in my book.

It'd be cool but I say no for the same reason.In Final Wars they messed most monsters up.Most of the new movies are messing them up or making a version that isn't as cool as original version.
EXAMPLE:Kiryu doesn't look as cool or is as strong as the other 2.
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Re: Should Biollante ever return?

Postby Cimmerian Dragon » Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:40 pm

Biogoji89 wrote:EXAMPLE:Kiryu doesn't look as cool or is as strong as the other 2.


I couldn't disagree any more fiercely. I see Kiryu as making up for the personality-less MechaGodzilla II design. Furthermore (as Living Corpse pointed out) Kiryu was actually a character, not just a bipedal vehicle. I actually cared about that machine, a living creature trapped in steel and exploited. Who can have empathy for a walking weapons platform?
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Re: Should Biollante ever return?

Postby Living Corpse » Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:59 pm

Don't get me wrong though, I still like Heisei MG and it's Garuda.

I just like Showa MG and Kiryu more.
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Re: Should Biollante ever return?

Postby Cimmerian Dragon » Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:16 pm

^ I get that. I come down hard on MGII sometimes (and it will always remain my least-favorite of the three), but I don't mean to suggest that it's totally worthless. As a mecha, it's pretty nifty. As a character, it's lacking.
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Re: Should Biollante ever return?

Postby XxComablack1937xX » Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:36 pm

Biollante.. No.... Given Toho's recent attempt's with new monster's or bringing back old ones they just aren't working (Aside from Gigan)... Biollante is a Classic, It's Unique, Powerful an in a weird sense beautiful an tragic.... there's no way to bring her back without it looking like a half-ass attempt to bring in cash$.

Toho needs New monsters LIKE Biollante, very realistic in both appearance an reasoning.. powerful but sad, an gentle an grotesque.. A great balance so the viewer can actually feel something for the monster.

There recent monster's have been lazy an mostly rehashes of older monsters. Although i'd be excited to see Biollante again i just doubt they'd do the character justice an it's best to leave her gone or let Legendary Pictures (if they wanted) use her in a sequel if it happens.
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Re: Should Biollante ever return?

Postby Arbok » Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:28 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I don't see Toho ever having Biollante coming back seeing that she was a total special effects nightmare and that GvsB did poorly at the box office. The character never seem to be that popular, I doubt LP will bring back the monster neither.


The film was a box office disappointment for its day, but lets keep it in perspective as it did better than all of the Millennium films except G2K (about on par) and GMK. The movie is also well regarded by fans in Japan, as there was a reason it was one of Toho's first releases on Blu-ray alongside the original Godzilla, Rodan, Mothra and the most recent Godzilla film, Final Wars. That's a pretty lofty crowd, save the last one.

Still, the film is seen more as a fan pleaser and lacks the box office power of Toho's most well known characters, which they became fanatically focused on after Megaguirus flopped. So I wouldn't be surprised if she never graces the screen again and frankly that's okay with me. Making a giant rose work as a monster that isn't something to scoff at is damn hard, and its quite a surprise the 1989 film did it so well in the first place.
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Re: Should Biollante ever return?

Postby kaiju115 » Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:55 am

Absolutely, Biollante is an awesome monster, so yeah she should return, & the same for Destoroyah.
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Re: Should Biollante ever return?

Postby anguirusrules356 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:41 pm

No ,first thing if they made one now, biollante would look all new and just different and she never showed up in space, so she probably couldnt survive up there. 8-)
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