Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)
Heisei Mechagodzilla is just really cool. He lacks the "character" thing Kiryu had going on, and he may not be the same level of badass as Showa MechaG, but he's arguably the most powerful Mechagodzilla incarnation thus far. His head, which some have complained has some sort of duck-face going on, actually looks IMO appropiate and kind of looks like Godzilla's head. In fact, most of his body is just Heisei Godzilla's covered in tin foil, but seeing how it IS a doppleganger of Goji, it's actualy appropiate. The only complaint i have is the tail, which looks just like Barney's except in metal form. Overall, Heisei Mechagodzilla is a unique powerhouse amongst powerhouses in the Heisei Era.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)
This. Pretty much my opinion on him.Lord Gappa wrote:Heisei Mechagodzilla is just really cool. He lacks the "character" thing Kiryu had going on, and he may not be the same level of badass as Showa MechaG, but he's arguably the most powerful Mechagodzilla incarnation thus far. His head, which some have complained has some sort of duck-face going on, actually looks IMO appropiate and kind of looks like Godzilla's head. In fact, most of his body is just Heisei Godzilla's covered in tin foil, but seeing how it IS a doppleganger of Goji, it's actualy appropiate. The only complaint i have is the tail, which looks just like Barney's except in metal form. Overall, Heisei Mechagodzilla is a unique powerhouse amongst powerhouses in the Heisei Era.
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This is probably my least favorite Mechagodzilla. Doesn't look as cool as Kiryu or the Showa version, and it lacks personality (which I guess is appropriate for the context of the film).
Also, he just has that dopey look on his face...
Also, he just has that dopey look on his face...
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Many of the most awesome villain kaiju have a 'dopey look' on them.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)
I like the machine approach on the 93 MG. He's just cold and unfeeling like a killing machine. He's kind of like the terminator without the accent (or an embarrassing career in politics). I like the personality that Kiryu and especially 74/75, but the 93's character fits the film.
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i loved this MechaGodzilla
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)
My least favorite MechaGodzilla. Good movie! But I have to give Godzilla's mechanical double SOME credit.. unlike the Showa and Millennium MechaGodzilla's, this one ACTUALLY got the job done in crippling and killing Godzilla (til Rodan resurrected him). Other than that, I think he's boring and has no personality and the design is ugly. Showa MechaGodzilla all the way
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)
This is my least favorite Toho mech. His design is just so incredibly boring, and unappealing. I recalling someone on these boards coining the "MechaDuckzilla" name a while back, and I think it's actually pretty fitting. He may be more powerful than Kiryu, but that means nothing to me. Kiryu was a refreshing take on Mechagodzilla, and was a huge improvement over this walking tank.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)
I liked MG2 a little more than Kiryu. MG2 just seemed to have a bit more to offer as a monster. It had the laser eyes, Mega-Buster, Plasma Grenade, Paraylzer missiles, a Garuda super mode, and one of the only weapons to ever kill Godzilla, the G-Crusher. Although I think that he was responsible for the supposed "beam wars" of the Heisei series, it kind of felt appropriate for his character. He's a military machine designed to shoot stuff at Godzilla until he fell down. T&C weren't really options when he weighed so much and could have his weapons damaged in a up-close fight. It's a pretty good monster, if a tad bland in appearance.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)
^Remember that the Heisei series was infamous for having kaijuu with "thunder thighs."
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)
I don't really see what you are referring to Cimmerian dragon...
I look at this photo:
http://www.tohokingdom.com/kaiju/images ... illa93.htm
and I see a proportionally fine mech. Sure it could have used a larger tail and a slightly bigger head but it doesn't really seem bottom heavy. Also, when MechaG turns into Super MechaG, both the top and bottom are perfectly balanced.
http://www.tohokingdom.com/kaiju/images ... illa74.htm
Seems to me, he has no belly either, if the cutter beam hatch ends in his sternum... Just a large diaphragm and a pelvic region. I also noted that MG mach 2 has a different torso built.
I look at this photo:
http://www.tohokingdom.com/kaiju/images ... illa93.htm
and I see a proportionally fine mech. Sure it could have used a larger tail and a slightly bigger head but it doesn't really seem bottom heavy. Also, when MechaG turns into Super MechaG, both the top and bottom are perfectly balanced.
The pictures posted on this site give a different perspective of the portion that is protruding.Huh? Heisei MG doesn't have a gut at all. If anything, Showa MG is the one with the beer belly.
http://www.tohokingdom.com/kaiju/images ... illa74.htm
Seems to me, he has no belly either, if the cutter beam hatch ends in his sternum... Just a large diaphragm and a pelvic region. I also noted that MG mach 2 has a different torso built.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)
I think he's really awesome. Slick, metallic, with those cool ball jointed arms and legs, and some cool weapons to boot. I agree that he is more of a vehicle than an actual monster, but I think he still serves his purpose well and that he is a great looking creation.
My Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla stop motion movie -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fshhA8BWuLw
Rodan vs. F-22 Raptor - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q3V02iy_Xw
Wrath of Mechagodzilla - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4xHP8C_vWw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fshhA8BWuLw
Rodan vs. F-22 Raptor - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q3V02iy_Xw
Wrath of Mechagodzilla - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4xHP8C_vWw
Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)
Of the three MechaGodzilla designs this was by far my least favorite. I loved Kiryu's design/personality the best and Showa MechaG's arsenal and role as antagonist. This design (stumpy tail and all) is just so plain. He may have been the most powerful, but he certainly wasn't the most memorable IMO.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)
You mean the most powerful MechaG? Maybe he was a great danger to Godzilla, but in a one on one fight with the other 2 Mechs hed probably just fall down from his lack of maneuverability. And if they got into hand to hand combat... Even if hes bigger, a few karate chops or punches would floor him for good. And i dont think missiles bode to well for that guy.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fshhA8BWuLw
Rodan vs. F-22 Raptor - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q3V02iy_Xw
Wrath of Mechagodzilla - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4xHP8C_vWw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fshhA8BWuLw
Rodan vs. F-22 Raptor - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q3V02iy_Xw
Wrath of Mechagodzilla - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4xHP8C_vWw
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)
I don't know... Kiryu's mobility might take down MG'93, but I'm pretty sure the plasma grenade would knock over or possibly finish MG'74.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)
MG hits Kiryu with a beam and he falls over and goes out of commish. Again.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)
Well Kiryu was fast but not Megaguirus fast. I'm sure he couldn't avoid the Plasma Grenade forever. There's just too much of a size difference to call this fair at all.
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Im think MG's megabuster would sort him out fast. Unlike the radioactive ray it requires no charge time and Kiryu probably had some memory of the radioactive ray and the more refined areas of the process from his skeleton within. No such luck with Heisei MG here. Or Showa Mechagodzilla for that matter.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)
Like several other people here, Heisei MG is my least favorite incarnation of the monster. Although it resembles Godzilla much better than the original, it does absolutely nothing except spam beams. I know that the Showa version was a beam spammer as well, but that made it stand out in the Showa series. In the Heisei series, everything is a beam spammer; MG just has more beams than most. Also, the Showa version at least has some melee capabilities; Heisei MG is totally inept at this.
BTW, TokyoVigillante wasn't wrong. I watched a VHS of the film in Japanese once, and after the end of the film there were deleted scenes; one of which was the exact scene TV mentioned.
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Re: Monster Discussion #49: MechaGodzilla (Heisei)
Heisei Mechagodzilla lacks the personality of Showa MG, but I still like it nonetheless. He's a cold, soulless machine, but then again that is the point after all. Unfortunately he was too plump to really do much at close range.
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