Explaining the Heisei Timeline (Official)

[omgitsgodzilla]

(like what was going on with the Dorats/Ghidorah from 1954-1992).

Yeah, where the frack was King Ghidorah that whole time?

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You know what, I give up. King Ghidorah's quite possibly the second worst written Godzilla film, only behind Megaguirus.

Probably dormant. Who knows, the Dorats were supposed to be pets. Perhaps King Ghidorah was actually a peaceful creature until the time travelers placed him under their control in 1992. Though I'm not quite sure offhand of the timing of Godzilla killing King Ghidorah vs. Godzilla destroying MOTHER.

[wataru]

If I remember correctly, when M11 and the gang came back to 1991, everyone in the present KNEW who KG was, but they never discussed WTF he was doing there from 1941 til 1991.

[omgitsgodzilla]

Wilson and Glenchico did. They probably first unleashed him during the period when the others were on Lagos moving the Godzillasaurus. This would've given the Japanese some time to give him one of their famous Instant Snappy Monster Names before Emi, Miki and the rest returned.

[kpa]

There's nothing in the movie claiming King Ghidorah attacked in the past. It's pretty clear that the monster first appears in 1992 under the control of the Futurians.

[omgitsgodzilla]

Right. It just seems to me watching the movie that there was a considerable amount of (linear 1992) time between when Emi and the rest left and when they returned, probably to avoid that two-of-the-same-person time paradox thing. I'm saying Ghidorah (who would have existed the whole time in the stable time loop) could have been unleashed in that time.

[Legionmaster]

I'm wondering what the hell KG was doing from 1954-1992. Other than having lovely tea parties by himself.

[Lord Gappa]

I'm wondering what the hell KG was doing from 1954-1992. Other than having lovely tea parties by himself.

Mutating.

[Hedorah]

I'm wondering what the hell KG was doing from 1954-1992. Other than having lovely tea parties by himself.

I was always under the impression they had him hidden somewhere with mind control, waiting for orders

[Legionmaster]

I'm wondering what the hell KG was doing from 1954-1992. Other than having lovely tea parties by himself.

I was always under the impression they had him hidden somewhere with mind control, waiting for orders

Except the mind control device didn't exist until 1992.

[Lord Gappa]

Like kpa already stated, whos to say the mutations weren't immediate? He could have been stowed away on said island while he grew into King Ghidorah.

[Hedorah]

I'm wondering what the hell KG was doing from 1954-1992. Other than having lovely tea parties by himself.

I was always under the impression they had him hidden somewhere with mind control, waiting for orders

Except the mind control device didn't exist until 1992.

Well...........shit

[Lord Gappa]

^
They DO come from the future. Perhaps mind control devices are as common as iPods.

[SuperSaiyan4Godzilla]

^
They DO come from the future. Perhaps mind control devices are as common as iPods.

That's kinda fudged up.

[Lord Gappa]

^
They DO come from the future. Perhaps mind control devices are as common as iPods.

That's kinda fudged up.

The whole film is fudged up.

[kpa]

Like kpa already stated, whos to say the mutations weren't immediate? He could have been stowed away on said island while he grew into King Ghidorah.

Exactly. Since King Ghidorah was a genetically engineered creation intended as a weapon, it would have been designed to function as the Futurians' needed. And since they didn't need it until 1992, it seems unlikely a flying monster would be left to act on its own for 50 years (with no one noticing, to boot). So I would go with simple options, which would include Ghidorah being dormant (perhaps undersea) until summoned, or the gestation from Dorats to Ghidorah being a slow process that took decades to complete. Neither of those options are official but they don't contradict anything shown in the movie.

[Cimmerian Dragon]

I would go with simple options, which would include Ghidorah being dormant (perhaps undersea) until summoned, or the gestation from Dorats to Ghidorah being a slow process that took decades to complete. Neither of those options are official but they don't contradict anything shown in the movie.

Since King Ghidorah managed to maintain its integrity under the ocean without much apparent decay until the time of the Futurians, it seems more than possible that it could survive a 50 year hibernation. Of course, being a genetically engineered weapon from the future, Ghidorah could be capable of just about anything.

[Titanosaurus75]

Excellent article, kpa. However, I do have one question regarding it. Are you suggesting that the '54 Godzilla and the Heisei Godzilla are different species, with '54 Godzilla being the terrestrial/aquatic intermediate proposed by Yamane, and the Heisei Godzilla being a mutant Godzillasaurus?

Hey Titanosaurus75, I'm just catching up on this thread so hopefully my answer isn't too late. Whether the 54 and 84 Godzillas were completely different species is open to speculation, and I tried to avoid any personal guessing in that article and stick only to what was shown in the movies. Honda, Murata, and the others directly involved in creating Godzilla provided its backstory in GODZILLA '54. What Omori invented for GODZILLA VS KING GHIDORAH doesn't fit with G'54 (the movie)... the Godzillasaur is clearly not a terrestrial/aquatic intermediate species living in the manner described by Yamane, and it wouldn't have inspired the legend of Odo Island... even the islands in G-54 and GvsKG are nowhere near each other. So my opinion (and it's just an opinion) is that the two Godzillas would have to be different species or Omori just ignored parts of G'54 that didn't fit his story and therefore Godzilla 54 in the Heisei series (but not the Showa) was also a Godzillasaur. Toho's played fast and loose with continuity before and since so whatever works for you would likely be fine.

Well, I guess it's my turn to catch up late. Thanks for the reply kpa. It was very helpful.

[Gojira21]

It good to read this article. This whole series confused the heck out of me, especially with the confusing plot of Godzilla vs King Ghidorah...

[Irys X]

Wow. Now I can actually watch the Heisei movies and know what is going on. I had my own theories, but this makes perfect sense. Thanks.

[Svitska Donkun]

I never scratched my head over the continuity. My brain created some kind of nonsensical explanation when I was a kid, but as I got older I just wrote them off as terrible plot holes. Nice that there;s an official explanation though.

One thing that pisses me off in Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah is Shindo. He only looks 5 years younger in 1944 as he does in 1992. Its funny because you can go look at film s he did in the 50's and see how majorly different Yoshio Tsuchiya looked. But according to Godzilla vs. KG, he was always old.