Explaining the Heisei Timeline (Official)

[Crocodile]

Man, I wouldn't say this but Godzilla vs. Destoroyah wasn't really great I was sad The Big G went My face at the end: .

What is this I don't even

Godzilla went Dead to make sad

What's not to get?

[omgitsgodzilla]

Man, I wouldn't say this but Godzilla vs. Destoroyah wasn't really great I was sad The Big G went My face at the end: .

What is this I don't even

Godzilla went Dead to make sad

What's not to get?

Yeah, but has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

[Crocodile]

Yeah, but has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

'Man has been asking this question since he first stood upright.

[Godzillatheultimate]

Man, I wouldn't say this but Godzilla vs. Destoroyah wasn't really great I was sad The Big G went My face at the end: .

Godzilla went Dead to make sad

What's not to get?

Yeah, but has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

Best use of this EVAR.

[MothraRocks]

That article explained so much thank u! I got headaches before thinking about how it worked...

[Lord Gappa]

Makes so much sence...
This must make sence because it's not some crazy fanmade idea that doesn't make sence.
It feels like someone opened a air freshner in the middle of a sewer.
Thanks so skreeonking much!

[kpa]

You're welcome, guys! I'm glad you found the article helpful.

[Titanosaurus75]

Excellent article, kpa. However, I do have one question regarding it. Are you suggesting that the '54 Godzilla and the Heisei Godzilla are different species, with '54 Godzilla being the terrestrial/aquatic intermediate proposed by Yamane, and the Heisei Godzilla being a mutant Godzillasaurus?

[Lord Gappa]

@Titanosaurus75.
According to the article kpa wrote, it states the 54 Goji and the Heisei Goji are two SEPARATE beings.
Your right on the money for origins; 54 is a ancient monster, Heisei is a mutated Godzillasaur.

[Titanosaurus75]

@Titanosaurus75.
According to the article kpa wrote, it states the 54 Goji and the Heisei Goji are two SEPARATE beings.
Your right on the money for origins; 54 is a ancient monster, Heisei is a mutated Godzillasaur.

I'm a little confused as to what you mean by "separate beings." If you mean separate individuals, I already knew that. I was making sure I was interpreting the article's statements on the origins of the two Godzillas correctly. I guess I should have worded my post better.

[omgitsgodzilla]

I'm pretty sure there were two Godzillasaurs (a mating pair?) that survived. The one we didn't see was mutated (or awakened after previous mutation) in the Bikini Atoll nuclear test and became the 1954 (50-meter) Godzilla. The one we saw was teleported to the Bering Sea, was mutated by the 1977 sub crash and became the 1984 (80-meter) Godzilla, which was later mutated further by the Teiyo Group's submarine into a 100-meter Godzilla. It's what's referred to on TV Tropes as a Stable Time Loop.

[wataru]

There are TWO Godzillas

1954 Godzilla
1984-1995 Godzilla

End. Fin.

[DaikaijuSokogeki!]

There are TWO Godzillas

1954 Godzilla
1984-1995 Godzilla

End. Fin.

Bzzt, wrong. You forgot Godzilla Jr. turning into the third Godzilla at the end of Destoroyah.

[Lord Gappa]

There are TWO Godzillas

1954 Godzilla
1984-1995 Godzilla

End. Fin.

Bzzt, wrong. You forgot Godzilla Jr. turning into the third Godzilla at the end of Destoroyah.

Two Godzillas who don't serve as pointless plot devices.

[Cimmerian Dragon]

I agree with omgitsgodzilla.

There had to be more than one Godzillasaur present during the fallout of the Bikini test. There is no way two entirely different species (a 2 million year-old sea creature and a mutated relic carnosaur) end up sharing the unique traits possessed by the Godzillas.

In the showa series we know this to be true, there is never any doubt that the monster who attacks in Raids Again is another example of the same type of animal. I always assumed we were dealing with two halves of a mating pair, thus neatly explaining the existence of Minya later.

So, we have more than one Godzillasaurus present on Lagos in 1944. This is not far fetched, we know there had to have been at least two others there in the recent past. Even if the one Shindo encountered was the last of his kind, he still needed parents, being a normal-enough relic animal, not some immortal monster (yet). So let's assume that there are two dinosaurs on the Island. Shindo's men only run into one (it's not that big yet, another could conceivably hide in the jungle) and see it shot down.

In the original continuity, the military departs, leaving the wounded animal to die. Years later the Bikini test occurs, and blankets two Godzillasaurs with radiation. The first creature attacks in 1954, and is killed. Then, around a year later, the other dinosaur, driven by whatever instinct motivated it's mate, also attacks Japan, and goes on to experience the Showa series films.

However, the Heisei films change this. The second Godzilla never appears in 1955, but the attack in 1954 remains a historical fact, as seen in The Return of Godzilla. This is, of course, because after the military departs Lagos, the Futurians teleport the wounded dinosaur into the ocean, not realizing what anyone who saw the first two G-films already knows, that there are two Godzillas. The Futurians only prevent one dinosaur from being irradiated, and since the 1954 attack remains a historical reality in the Heisei continuity, then we can surmise that Godzilla was created from the unseen Lagos Godzillasaur whose existence was never discovered. The dinosaur whose transformation was successfully prevented was the one who would have appeared in 1955, but thanks to the time travelers was nothing but a corpse on the ocean floor by then.

Now we can jump ahead to the submarine disaster in the 1970s, and follow the Heisei continuity to its conclusion. It all fits together by simply accepting the presence of two Godzillasaurs, without us having to believe that a legendary ancient amphibian would share dorsal plates, four fingers/toes, ears, roar, and atomic breath with a mutated form of an unrelated species.

The Odo Island legend was just that, a legend, but one the islanders would have been sure to latch on to explain the bizarre occurrences they were experiencing in the period after Godzilla appeared in their waters. Much like a person who has never heard a sonic boom might point to a jet aircraft and call it the mythical thunderbird, an islander who has never seen an amphibious, mutant, radioactive dinosaur might decide it was the mythical sea monster he had heard stories of throughout his life, and thus he tells everyone that Gojira is out there.

[wataru]

Theory is nice, except Officially that's not what happened.

[Lord Gappa]

I agree with omgitsgodzilla.

There had to be more than one Godzillasaur present during the fallout of the Bikini test. There is no way two entirely different species (a 2 million year-old sea creature and a mutated relic carnosaur) end up sharing the unique traits possessed by the Godzillas.

Sure there can.
If the script calls for it.

[Cimmerian Dragon]

You're right. I should have specified "no way...except for the whim of the screenwriter".

However the sheer, astronomical synchronicity this would require is pushes "willing suspension of disbelief" to the breaking point in a series that already has it under a lot of strain.

[wataru]

Stop trying to apply real life logic and science to a sci fi/fantasy film.

[Tyler]

I don't like tweaking the original when King Ghidorah is the real problem. That film brought in the Godzillasaur. I don't think it's right to go back and say the original had one too just because some other movie changed something. If that makes any sense.