Explaining the Heisei Timeline (Official)

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Re: Explaining the Heisei Timeline (Official)

Postby DaveTheAnalyzer » Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:12 pm

One thing that stuck my mind was when Emi Kano came clean and admitted that Godzilla never attacked again, and Japan became super rich, and bought off South America and Africa, etc. etc.

And judging from the movies that followed, that was no longer the case.

So...the Futurians kept the timeline mostly intact from 1944 - 1992, but everything after that went to hell?
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Re: Explaining the Heisei Timeline (Official)

Postby Living Corpse » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:42 pm

She didn't say he never attacked again she said he never destroyed Japan, as evidenced in Destroyah the reason he never destroyed Japan completely is because he died.
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Re: Explaining the Heisei Timeline (Official)

Postby SuperSaiyan4Godzilla » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:55 pm

Living Corpse wrote:She didn't say he never attacked again she said he never destroyed Japan, as evidenced in Destroyah the reason he never destroyed Japan completely is because he died.


And it can be inferred that the world never gave the third Godzilla a reason to attack. And he had a friendly time with humans when he was younger.
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Re: Explaining the Heisei Timeline (Official)

Postby heiseiGfan » Fri May 04, 2012 10:36 pm

KPA wrote:GODZILLA VS KING GHIDORAH was a big hit at the Japanese box office in 1991, but the story— about time travelers going back to 1944 in an attempt to prevent the creation of Godzilla— was so convoluted and confusing that sixteen years later many viewers are still perplexed by what the movie was about and how it relates to the other films in the Heisei series.

Questions about the GODZILLA VS KING GHIDORAH and the Heisei timeline pop up frequently on the fan forums (there have been a least three threads on the subject in the past month alone) so I revised an old explanation and added some new information, quotes, and screenshots. For anyone who is interested, the report is now on SciFi Japan.

http://www.scifijapan.com/articles/2007 ... -godzilla/


After reading the link the whole timeline of the heisei series made a lot more sense. Thank you so much. :huge:
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Re: Explaining the Heisei Timeline (Official)

Postby ScootaVaran » Sat May 26, 2012 5:19 pm

That actually helps alot, thank you.
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Re: Explaining the Heisei Timeline (Official)

Postby miguelnuva » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:55 am

Living Corpse wrote:She didn't say he never attacked again she said he never destroyed Japan, as evidenced in Destroyah the reason he never destroyed Japan completely is because he died.


According to the timeline 80 meter Godzilla never recovered from the ANEB so most likely when Godzilla is increased in power again to his 100 meter self is when the timeline shifts again to the current Heisei timeline that we see in the movies, that's how I see it.
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Re: Explaining the Heisei Timeline (Official)

Postby ZillaMaster91 » Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:45 am

While that may be true, you have to remember that there was that one scene in Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah where the nuclear submarine that was intended to revive the Godzillasaurus in the Bering Sea was intercepted by Godzilla himself, and destroyed. I always took that incident as the reason behind Godzilla's 20 meter growth spurt. The sub from the 70's that was referenced earlier on in the film was the cause of the mutation of the Godzillasaurus in the first place into the Heisei Godzilla, only 80 meters at the time.
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Re: Explaining the Heisei Timeline (Official)

Postby SuperSaiyan4Godzilla » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:18 am

ZillaMaster91 wrote:While that may be true, you have to remember that there was that one scene in Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah where the nuclear submarine that was intended to revive the Godzillasaurus in the Bering Sea was intercepted by Godzilla himself, and destroyed. I always took that incident as the reason behind Godzilla's 20 meter growth spurt. The sub from the 70's that was referenced earlier on in the film was the cause of the mutation of the Godzillasaurus in the first place into the Heisei Godzilla, only 80 meters at the time.


And that's more or less correct.
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Re: Explaining the Heisei Timeline (Official)

Postby ZillaMaster91 » Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:46 pm

Well, the Heisei timeline is so jumbled up that it's hard to really grasp the general concept of it without reading the 'official' explanation of it.
That's why whenever I watch any of the Heisei films, I just toss continuity out of the window and enjoy the movie rather than wrap my head around the whole idea of the entire continuity.
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Re: Explaining the Heisei Timeline (Official)

Postby Mincecraft » Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:43 pm

That made a lot of sense. The nuclear sub explains a lot. Basically, there were 2 G-saurs; the Lagos one and the 54 one buried somewhere right?
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Re: Explaining the Heisei Timeline (Official)

Postby SuperSaiyan4Godzilla » Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:15 pm

Mincecraft wrote:That made a lot of sense. The nuclear sub explains a lot. Basically, there were 2 G-saurs; the Lagos one and the 54 one buried somewhere right?


Well, depends on what you want to believe.

They never said that the original Godzilla was a Godzillasaurus. The creators didn't say so, at least. And that's the word every has as law.
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Re: Explaining the Heisei Timeline (Official)

Postby Beef Bigshot » Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:23 pm

i really dont even no, the timeline got raped by the time traveling thing and also the movie doesnt even follow the time traveling rules because even tho godzilla "never" existed people still remember him.....soooo it really makes absolutely no sense
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Re: Explaining the Heisei Timeline (Official)

Postby Tyler » Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:33 pm

Beef Bigshot wrote:even tho godzilla "never" existed people still remember him


Did you even read the article? You can just scroll down to the nice little timeline at the bottom.
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Re: Explaining the Heisei Timeline (Official)

Postby miguelnuva » Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:52 pm

Did anyone else watch Gvs KG the first time and understand the time travel plot either almost right or completely right.

I always figure that the futrains are talking about G54's creation and had they not moved G84 at all he would have died on the island.
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Re: Explaining the Heisei Timeline (Official)

Postby Chris55 » Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:11 pm

miguelnuva wrote:Did anyone else watch Gvs KG the first time and understand the time travel plot either almost right or completely right.



I thought it was a weird movie but right when I saw the American soldiers being killed in such a lame way, it took me right out of the movie. Still bugs me.
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Re: Explaining the Heisei Timeline (Official)

Postby ligerzilla2014 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:18 pm

There is one problem though. I just watched GvKG and one of the Futurains says that the same being cannot exist twice at the same time: one of them would dissappear. He says that this is the reason as to why they cannot take Mr. Shindo back in time. If this is true, then when Mecha King Ghidorah goes back in time, there are two Ghidorahs, meaning one of them would have to dissappear. Since Mecha King Ghidorah didn't dissappear, that means that the other one did. And if that Ghidorah dissappeared then it wouldn't exist in the future to be made into Mecha King Ghidorah.

Edit: You know it's really incredible that the plot for this movie hasn't started a black hole.
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Re: Explaining the Heisei Timeline (Official)

Postby Grayshot954 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:37 pm

^ I think it only applied if they met. Only problem is he is a soldier and probably wouldn't feint when he saw himself a la Back to the Future. That concept I understood as a paradox like action which theoretically could cause the older version to disappear.
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Re: Explaining the Heisei Timeline (Official)

Postby eabaker » Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:39 pm

^This is all based on the assumption that the Futurians were telling the truth.
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Re: Explaining the Heisei Timeline (Official)

Postby miguelnuva » Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:18 pm

eabaker wrote:^This is all based on the assumption that the Futurians were telling the truth.


Because they so were right about everything else they said in the movie.
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Re: Explaining the Heisei Timeline (Official)

Postby three » Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:22 pm

excellent explanation.
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