Godzilla vs. Destoroyah (1995)

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Re: Godzilla vs. Destoroyah (1995)

Postby Jeff-Goldblum1 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:15 pm

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Jeff-Goldblum1 wrote:I was watching Godzilla Vs Destroyah once again and a thought occurred to me whilst doing so.

Why do Miki and the telepath girls dote over Little Godzilla like a puppy?

At the final stage of his growth he is capable of the same amount of destruction as his father.


........did you even watch the Heisei series? Seriously.

Sure but he's not a baby dinosaur anymore and basically a post-office building short of being a full grown Godzilla. Capable of many destruction on Tokyo like his father.

It's like a little girl adopts a baby crocodile but by the time it grows into a full blown Saltwater Crocodile it might be time to step out of the wading pool with it. HaHa.

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Re: Godzilla vs. Destoroyah (1995)

Postby Maritonic » Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:21 pm

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Maritonic wrote:
Jeff-Goldblum1 wrote:I was watching Godzilla Vs Destroyah once again and a thought occurred to me whilst doing so.

Why do Miki and the telepath girls dote over Little Godzilla like a puppy?

At the final stage of his growth he is capable of the same amount of destruction as his father.


........did you even watch the Heisei series? Seriously.

Sure but he's not a baby dinosaur anymore and basically a post-office building short of being a full grown Godzilla. Capable of many destruction on Tokyo like his father.

It's like a little girl adopts a baby crocodile but by the time it grows into a full blown Saltwater Crocodile it might be time to step out of the wading pool with it. HaHa.


Eabaker's pitbull analogy works so well here it's actually sad.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Destoroyah (1995)

Postby jackzilla » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:52 am

Does anyone know about how well this movie did box office wise in Japan when it came out back in 1995? Since they plastered the marketing of the movie with GODZILLA DIES, I assume this movie made some decent coin when it came out.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Destoroyah (1995)

Postby szmigiel » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:38 am

jackzilla wrote:Does anyone know about how well this movie did box office wise in Japan when it came out back in 1995? Since they plastered the marketing of the movie with GODZILLA DIES, I assume this movie made some decent coin when it came out.


Attendance was 4 million tickets, the 2nd highest for the Heisei series , Godzilla Vs Mothra being the highest of the Heisei at 4.2 million tickets. However even Godzilla Vs Space Godzilla pulled in 3.4 million, the Heisei low point was was Godzilla Vs Biollante at 2 million tickets.


I have the charts for attendance at the bottom of this post for more information http://jokercluster.blogspot.com/2017/09/updated-charts-screen-time-first_7.html
Or you can check on wikipedia for the Godzilla Franchise https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godzilla_(franchise)

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Re: Godzilla vs. Destoroyah (1995)

Postby MikeSTZillak » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:34 pm

Does anyone know where I could find the alternate ending? I looked all over YouTube and I couldn't find it.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Destoroyah (1995)

Postby GigaBowserG » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:14 pm

MikeSTZillak wrote:Does anyone know where I could find the alternate ending? I looked all over YouTube and I couldn't find it.


The first minute and a half of (this video) shows the Destoroyah chest beam sequence, but after that is probably what you're looking for.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Destoroyah (1995)

Postby Maritonic » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:25 am

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MikeSTZillak wrote:Does anyone know where I could find the alternate ending? I looked all over YouTube and I couldn't find it.


The first minute and a half of (this video) shows the Destoroyah chest beam sequence, but after that is probably what you're looking for.


Thank you so much for sharing this, I've never seen it. So cool.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Destoroyah (1995)

Postby Zarm » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:06 am

Whoa! Talk about 'respect Burning Godzilla'-

Spoiler:
His retaliation is to just straight-up blast a hole all the way through Destroyah's chest in one shot, like he did to that skyscraper in 1985. Dang, that was epic!
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Re: Godzilla vs. Destoroyah (1995)

Postby Maritonic » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:41 am

Zarm wrote:Whoa! Talk about 'respect Burning Godzilla'-

Spoiler:
His retaliation is to just straight-up blast a hole all the way through Destroyah's chest in one shot, like he did to that skyscraper in 1985. Dang, that was epic!


Don't think you have to worry about spoiling a movie from '95, Zarm ;)

But yeah, this scene was really pretty fantastic.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Destoroyah (1995)

Postby Zarm » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:00 am

Well, didn't want to spoil this scene before someone gets a chance to view it. :)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl37XiY ... e=youtu.be

Didn't really feel like make a whole topic for this so I'm dumpin' it here. This is how I think Heisei Godzilla turned into Burning Godzilla.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Destoroyah (1995)

Postby GigaBowserG » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:20 pm

PopInPicsPresents wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl37XiYpJJ0&feature=youtu.be

Didn't really feel like make a whole topic for this so I'm dumpin' it here. This is how I think Heisei Godzilla turned into Burning Godzilla.


You know, for as often as Burning G comes up in conversation, not once did I ever think of how the "burning" look would've developed on his body. Extremely well done! :)
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Re: Godzilla vs. Destoroyah (1995)

Postby Zarm » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:46 pm

PopInPicsPresents wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl37XiYpJJ0&feature=youtu.be

Didn't really feel like make a whole topic for this so I'm dumpin' it here. This is how I think Heisei Godzilla turned into Burning Godzilla.


WHOA. That was awesome!
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Re: Godzilla vs. Destoroyah (1995)

Postby NEWvicegriptyrano » Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:32 am

I think it would have been better if Godzilla and Junior had survived

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Re: Godzilla vs. Destoroyah (1995)

Postby Maritonic » Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:35 am

NEWvicegriptyrano wrote:I think it would have been better if Godzilla and Junior had survived


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Why? This takes away arguably the best thing about the film which is the impact of Godzilla's death. Not to mention the emotional impact of Junior's death and how that effects Godzilla and his fight against Destroyah.

I'm sure someone's going to chime in about how Godzilla vs. Destroyah is trash but meh, I love it.

Both deaths are arguably the most important/emotional parts of the film. Removing them leaves literally what? Not to mention Junior is resurrected at the end.

How would you have ended it? Godzilla just walks away?
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Postby Godzillian » Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:54 am

NEWvicegriptyrano wrote:I think it would have been better if Godzilla and Junior had survived

except he does, have you not seen the end of the film?
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Re: Godzilla vs. Destoroyah (1995)

Postby eabaker » Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:56 am

Maritonic wrote:Both deaths are arguably the most important/emotional parts of the film. Removing them leaves literally what? Not to mention Junior is resurrected at the end.


Yeah, recall that the movie's tagline was "GODZILLA DIES!" That was the entire thrust of the project. The impetus for even introducing a monster linked to the Oxygen Destroyer was to bring things full circle to the first time that Godzilla died.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Destoroyah (1995)

Postby edgaguirus » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:12 pm

It's very appropriate. The first Godzilla death was achieved by the OD, and then multiple attempts were made to destroy/defeat Godzilla. They all failed, and then a monster version of the OD arrives and pushes Godzilla to his limits before he dies.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Destoroyah (1995)

Postby Zarm » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:12 pm

Except it kind of fails, too, because he doesn't actually cause the death, or even really contribute to it; he just incidentally shows up while Godzilla's unrelated death is already in progress. It's kind of like having the Joker (or maybe Joe Chill) show up to harass Batman and kill another Robin in a story where Batman's dying of cancer. It's kind of symbolically confused, because the full-circle element is kind of a redundant add-on to the actual death story. Like an extremely-glorified cameo.

To me, that's why the 'full circle' aspect fails. because the OD never really has anything to do with anything; remove it from the movie, and nothing changes for Godzilla or humanity except for the subplot over Junior.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Destoroyah (1995)

Postby eabaker » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:38 pm

Zarm wrote:Except it kind of fails, too, because he doesn't actually cause the death, or even really contribute to it; he just incidentally shows up while Godzilla's unrelated death is already in progress. It's kind of like having the Joker (or maybe Joe Chill) show up to harass Batman and kill another Robin in a story where Batman's dying of cancer. It's kind of symbolically confused, because the full-circle element is kind of a redundant add-on to the actual death story. Like an extremely-glorified cameo.

To me, that's why the 'full circle' aspect fails. because the OD never really has anything to do with anything; remove it from the movie, and nothing changes for Godzilla or humanity except for the subplot over Junior.


I totally get where you're coming from, and I've had the same thought, when my logic brain is steering. But the movie still manages to do its job, for me, by totally giving me the feels; that comes down in part to D's presence as a reminder of the series' history, and in part to the realization that this Godzilla is now beyond even the forces that killed the original, that things have reached truly apocalyptic heights.

The bigger problem, for me, is that Shinichi's idea to recreate the OD - which is probably the biggest, most compelling moment of human drama in the movie - doesn't go anywhere, because the presence of Destroyah promptly abrogates it.
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