Lost Project Discussion: Godzilla vs Giant Monster Varan

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Lost Project Discussion: Godzilla vs Giant Monster Varan

Postby GodzillavsRayquaza » Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:41 pm

Rather late to make a thread for this, I know, but eh. Better late than never.

https://www.tohokingdom.com/cutting_room/godzilla_vs_giant_monster_varan.html

So, how crazy would this have been? Varan as some kind of apocalyptic beast, who is apparently too strong for Godzilla to defeat solo.

I actually rather like this one. Would I have preferred it to vs Destoroyah? No, but it’s still quite interesting.

Would have been nice seeing Godzilla and Little Godzilla fight side by side, and what would Varan have even been like and done? Would he have been anything like the Showa version, or would they only share a name and a similarity in appearance. And I definitely wouldn’t have hated the Heisei series ending the way this movie would have, but maybe i’m alone on that front.
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Re: Lost Project Discussion: Godzilla vs Giant Monster Varan

Postby GigaBowserG » Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:57 am

Varan being a harbinger of the apocalypse feels really out of character for the monster, I think. Imagine like Anguirus or Baragon in such a role. Doesn't seem right. I do like the description of the ending, though, a quiet ushering in of the new millennium and the Heisei series ending that way.
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Re: Lost Project Discussion: Godzilla vs Giant Monster Varan

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:41 am

GigaBowserG wrote:Varan being a harbinger of the apocalypse feels really out of character for the monster, I think. Imagine like Anguirus or Baragon in such a role. Doesn't seem right. I do like the description of the ending, though, a quiet ushering in of the new millennium and the Heisei series ending that way.

I’d argue it fits the “lore” of the original Varan, that worshipped him as an evil god, but I agree with you that I just don’t see it without giving him a ton of bullshit powers. Now thinking about it a little more, what if they gave him white pupils, and made him look more creepy similar to the GMK Goji?

I do find it fascinating how Varan has been clung to and repeatedly brought up in a multitude of scrapped Godzilla films. I wonder if he’ll ever actually reappear again.

Edit: just remembered the far too brief, but great appearance of Varan in Godzilla in Hell issue 2:

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I still think Varan would need more to be done; maybe make him physically larger than Godzilla, make the spikes just a little more crazy, and change his colors up a bit. It would be cool to give him some wonky ass powers; maybe when he’s in his gliding form, anything that his shadow touches, are hit by some sort of beam that corrodes/melts it. You could do a cool literal image of Varan being the monster that “blocks” out the Japanese sun.
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Re: Lost Project Discussion: Godzilla vs Giant Monster Varan

Postby tyrantgoji » Sat Jul 06, 2019 6:12 am

i would imagine liking this movie. though really, the plot fits Bagan WAY better than Varan. still i would like to see what it could have been

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Re: Lost Project Discussion: Godzilla vs Giant Monster Varan

Postby edgaguirus » Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:22 pm

Varan doesn't feel like a big time destroyer of life. Whether it's from a mediocre film or natural design, I'm not sure, but he'd need some major updates to fit the role.
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Re: Lost Project Discussion: Godzilla vs Giant Monster Varan

Postby Dino-Mario » Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:15 pm

Nope, Varan doesn't seem like a demonic god of destruction at all.
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Re: Lost Project Discussion: Godzilla vs Giant Monster Varan

Postby Godzillian » Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:32 am

I actually really love this idea. Wonder how Varan would've looked in the movie. Wouldn't say it's a better ending to the heisei era but def would've been a step up (hopefully) from the previous two films.

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tyrantgoji wrote:i would imagine liking this movie. though really, the plot fits Bagan WAY better than Varan. still i would like to see what it could have been

Considering Bagan has had a bunch of different ideas and concepts for being used and then discared in films, nothing really fits him :lol:
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Re: Lost Project Discussion: Godzilla vs Giant Monster Varan

Postby GojiDog » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:09 am

Poor Varan. Always the bridesmaid, never the bride.

I will say this though. If they ever did use Varan in a movie again, it would come with a ton of creative freedom.

Unlike Ghidorah, Mothra, Mechagodzilla, Gigan, or of the other upper-tier monsters, Varan is a bit more of a blank slate. He's never fought any other monsters on film. He's never even technically interacted with any other monsters on film. Everything he's ever done has been relegated to a mediocre film that isn't that widely viewed, even among fans.

So if they ever use Varan again, they can pretty much make him as powerful as they want. There's a huge (mostly) blank slate there as the character comes with hardly any expectations.
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Re: Lost Project Discussion: Godzilla vs Giant Monster Varan

Postby Stump Feet » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:59 am

There's some interesting things you could do with him if you got the chance.

iirc, a windstorm accompanied his first appearance in the film before he stepped on the priest, so I could see Varan being a weather or disaster monster of sorts, bringing strong winds and rains wherever he goes.
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Re: Lost Project Discussion: Godzilla vs Giant Monster Varan

Postby tyrantgoji » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:07 am

coming back to this... the ideas that lead up to Destoroyah is something in itself. so many different ideas being tossed around, some we don't even know about! Wonder what Godzilla vs Chaos and Godzilla vs The Divine Beast could have been like...

This film, Varan of all monsters being a destructor God is cool, but it's still off to think about. Hope one day we have a G-film with a similar plot though.

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Re: Lost Project Discussion: Godzilla vs Giant Monster Varan

Postby Ivo-goji » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:10 am

Baradagi-sanjin has tons of potential to be a powerful supernatural kaiju, but with his powers played subtly instead of making him a flashy magic show like the GMK guardians.

Somewhere between Showa Mothra and Daimajin in terms of godliness.
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Re: Lost Project Discussion: Godzilla vs Giant Monster Varan

Postby Eel221 » Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:58 am

Varan's role as a god of destruction kind of fits him, he was praised as a god in his original movie after all.


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