How do you think the Atlanteans created Gamera, Gyaos and Iris?

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How do you think the Atlanteans created Gamera, Gyaos and Iris?

Postby GodzillaFan1990's » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:35 am

Title explains it all. We all know that the ancient lost civilization Atlantis created Gamera but the question remains how? Guess this is a headcanon of ours to how they did it. Personally for me this is what they did.

Considering their features I like to think the Atlanteans created them by using the DNA of various creatures both extant and extinct. Gamera I think they created him using the DNA of turtle (Appearance), saber-toothed cat (Fangs) and human (Standing upright and as intelligent). Whereas with the Gyaos were created with the DNA of that of bird (Bird-like screeching), lizard/snake (reptilian features) and bat (Appearance). As for Iris I feel they did the same like with the Gyaos' but instead modified and tampered with his DNA hence why he looks much more different from them.

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Re: How do you think the Atlanteans created Gamera, Gyaos and Iris?

Postby KaijuCanuck » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:10 am

I never did really understand how Iris was supposed to be a Gyaos...

I'd say they simply took the base animal, and used some engineering tricks to alter them and make them do incredible things. Gamera is a snapping turtle, but altered to have mana/plasma abilities, t obe smart and stand upright, and to be intelligence. I would guess the Gyaos base animal is a bat, or some other now extinct animal that was endemic to the Atlantean continent.
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Re: How do you think the Atlanteans created Gamera, Gyaos and Iris?

Postby King of the Monsters » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:37 am

I believe Shusuke Kaneko has said the Gamera Heisei trilogy takes place in a world where real turtles don't exist or something, so Gamera is seen as especially strange due to matching no known species.

The interpretation I got from accounts of the Gamera vs. Barugon manga is that Iris was an early attempt to engineer a creature to combat Gyaos, so they used the base genome of Gyaos and gave the creature the ability to adapt its own DNA.
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Re: How do you think the Atlanteans created Gamera, Gyaos and Iris?

Postby KaijuCanuck » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:30 pm

King of the Monsters wrote:I believe Shusuke Kaneko has said the Gamera Heisei trilogy takes place in a world where real turtles don't exist or something, so Gamera is seen as especially strange due to matching no known species.


Woah... seriously?
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Re: How do you think the Atlanteans created Gamera, Gyaos and Iris?

Postby King of the Monsters » Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:59 pm

Yeah I'd have to find an actual interview or something where he says it, but I know I've read that multiple times. I've seen it used as proof that Gamera the Brave isn't part of the same continuity, since the characters immediately recognize Toto as a turtle. I don't believe Gamera is ever referred to as or compared to a turtle in any of the films of the trilogy.
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Re: How do you think the Atlanteans created Gamera, Gyaos and Iris?

Postby KaijuCanuck » Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:24 pm

King of the Monsters wrote:Yeah I'd have to find an actual interview or something where he says it, but I know I've read that multiple times. I've seen it used as proof that Gamera the Brave isn't part of the same continuity, since the characters immediately recognize Toto as a turtle. I don't believe Gamera is ever referred to as or compared to a turtle in any of the films of the trilogy.


I think possibly it is in the dubs, but I could be wrong. But I doubt whoever wrote the English scripts was informed of Kaneko's own secret lore, so that's not proof against it.
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Re: How do you think the Atlanteans created Gamera, Gyaos and Iris?

Postby Ivo-goji » Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:53 pm

Don't know what's in it, but the making-of book for Gamera: Guardian of the Universe had a manga depicting the destruction of Atlantis that might have shed light on this.
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Personally I don't think animal DNA was used to create the kaiju. I think it's more like they were made supernaturally, like golems perhaps.
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Re: How do you think the Atlanteans created Gamera, Gyaos and Iris?

Postby GodzillaFan1990's » Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:14 pm

King of the Monsters wrote:I believe Shusuke Kaneko has said the Gamera Heisei trilogy takes place in a world where real turtles don't exist or something, so Gamera is seen as especially strange due to matching no known species.

Huh...That's interesting, would like a source for that but its okay if you can't find since I would think its hard to find.
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Re: How do you think the Atlanteans created Gamera, Gyaos and Iris?

Postby King of the Monsters » Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:50 pm

Best I can find right now is a mention on Japanese Wikipedia that Shinji Higuchi clarified this in an issue of SCREEN magazine. It doesn't say what issue though. I know I've read other sources saying this, so if anyone happens to find any leads do say so.
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Re: How do you think the Atlanteans created Gamera, Gyaos and Iris?

Postby Destorogoji » Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:03 pm

I believe they used as much magic as science to create them, something like the Numidium from The Elder Scrolls series.
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Re: How do you think the Atlanteans created Gamera, Gyaos and Iris?

Postby szmigiel » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:51 am

GodzillaFan1990's wrote:
King of the Monsters wrote:I believe Shusuke Kaneko has said the Gamera Heisei trilogy takes place in a world where real turtles don't exist or something, so Gamera is seen as especially strange due to matching no known species.

Huh...That's interesting, would like a source for that but its okay if you can't find since I would think its hard to find.

Wish I could find the source of the quote as well, it was suppose to be from a SciFi Japan back in 2003, but their archives don't go back that far anymore. During an interview it asked why no one called Gamera a giant turtle in the films, Kaneko responded by saying it was because the world where the film takes place didn't have turtles.

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Re: How do you think the Atlanteans created Gamera, Gyaos and Iris?

Postby Ivo-goji » Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:40 am

^So it's like the Nolan Batman movies, where no one has ever heard of a super hero?
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Re: How do you think the Atlanteans created Gamera, Gyaos and Iris?

Postby edgaguirus » Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:02 pm

I would assume that the Atlanteans took animals, like a turtle, lizard, bat, etc, to create the monsters. With enough gene manipulation, they could create virtually anything. I suppose some magic or mystic explanation could also be considered, when you think about Gamera and his connection with the claw amulets.
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Re: How do you think the Atlanteans created Gamera, Gyaos and Iris?

Postby Godzillian » Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:26 pm

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Re: How do you think the Atlanteans created Gamera, Gyaos and Iris?

Postby LegendZilla » Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:18 am

I think its possible that Gamera could be a bio-mechanical being.
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Re: How do you think the Atlanteans created Gamera, Gyaos and Iris?

Postby Godzillian » Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:29 am

Its confirmed in the Gamera vs Barugon manga Atlantis made more kaiju besides Gyaos, Irys, and Gamera
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Re: How do you think the Atlanteans created Gamera, Gyaos and Iris?

Postby edgaguirus » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:37 pm

Like Jiger and Zigra?
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Re: How do you think the Atlanteans created Gamera, Gyaos and Iris?

Postby Godzillian » Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:56 pm

edgaguirus wrote:Like Jiger and Zigra?

Both are featured as the other kaiju. I'll post a pic later
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Re: How do you think the Atlanteans created Gamera, Gyaos and Iris?

Postby kamilleblu » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:22 pm

Does anyone have the "Legend" manga that was included with the "Making of Gamera: Guardian of the Universe?"

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Re: How do you think the Atlanteans created Gamera, Gyaos and Iris?

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